05-04-2021, 12:48 PM
Greetings to Klubhammer and Other Folks.
If you MUST buy into the mainstream narrative for whatever reasons of your own, that is your choice to make.
As for myself, this whole thing stank like rotten fish from its very start - my ever vigilant BS detector screamed loudly from the 1st minute the WWI started.
This POV has much to do with learning to see through the illusions of this world as well as one's age - it is easier when one is older, like myself.
As to OPINIONS - what I said thus far is based upon diligently searching for FACTS from credible scientists and medical professionals;
I am NOT qualified to render any professionally-based position of my own.
I am just good at locating valid source materials - and that is what I share.
As to anything else in this matter, there is loads of valid, well backed info posted here and anyone who is motivated can use even just an hour of their time to get educated right from BBHF - and can follow into the sources - I have posted a great deal of valid info, for example.
If that path is taken - and one still remains in fear and desperate - then FACTS alone will not penetrate or be able to assist.
Very Personally on this entire matter:
- I am in the very highest (so-called) risk group given my age, pre-existing conditions and having survived pnuemonia many times as well as mortally threatening illnesses.
- I do all our household's errands out in crowded public places and have NEVER covered my face.
- I live with someone who is my age and works, IN PERSON, full time with neglected teenagers who are usually sick - yet neither of us have had so much as a sniffle since all of 2020.
- I do not indulge in pole-eee-ticks, religions, (anti-)social medias, games, TV or other diversions which would misuse my life's energies;
I choose instead to consciously direct my life's energies in order to live through each day in fullness and peace.
- I am in the US - and have no idea about what it is like in other countries except that I do carefully select some non-mainstream content put up by some international folks and what they show more than anything is that this has all been a power grab planned and executed by insane, power mad oligarchs.
We - here - choose NOT to participate - much the same way that Florida, Texas and other places in the US are openly choosing to do.
A few highly pertinent questions for those who express strong opinions in support of the WWI:
1 - Did you read the info that StillStanding shared in the OP - or better still, the book itself which was written by an MD and was shared here long before the WWI began ??
2 - Have you made the effort to read ALL the fact-based info right in this thread ??
3 - Are you at all open-minded, or have you already chosen to follow the fear inducing stuff that is repeated endlessly vi mainstream media ??
A bit of help is now added for anyone who is aversive to reading entire, multi-page threads here - this 1st bit was written by a very well known MD:
Here is one of our own fellow members citing very useful info:
Here is a very telling exchange between 2 other members for your consideration as well:
This link points to my most recent entry in another thread which has loads of info within its ~5 pages:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-WORL...pid3285315
And I stand behind the info which I've posted right in this very thread, especially that which appears from reply #33, onward and I suggest for anyone open-minded enough to accept other than the mainstream narrative to carefully examine all the info which aims strong doubts at the WWI - and if courageous enough - to also examine the LACK of all factual, scientific evidence proving that any such a thing as a 'medical virus' has been isolated and shown to cause actual illness directly.
By way of contrast however - many, many medical professionals have already come forward explaining clearly how the MRNA shots are deadly for many and bring about internally destructive results - either immediately, or causing huge sufferings and eventual deaths.
I send along my best wishes to you and all the good folks who are struggling with this mess.
If you MUST buy into the mainstream narrative for whatever reasons of your own, that is your choice to make.
As for myself, this whole thing stank like rotten fish from its very start - my ever vigilant BS detector screamed loudly from the 1st minute the WWI started.
This POV has much to do with learning to see through the illusions of this world as well as one's age - it is easier when one is older, like myself.
As to OPINIONS - what I said thus far is based upon diligently searching for FACTS from credible scientists and medical professionals;
I am NOT qualified to render any professionally-based position of my own.
I am just good at locating valid source materials - and that is what I share.
As to anything else in this matter, there is loads of valid, well backed info posted here and anyone who is motivated can use even just an hour of their time to get educated right from BBHF - and can follow into the sources - I have posted a great deal of valid info, for example.
If that path is taken - and one still remains in fear and desperate - then FACTS alone will not penetrate or be able to assist.
Very Personally on this entire matter:
- I am in the very highest (so-called) risk group given my age, pre-existing conditions and having survived pnuemonia many times as well as mortally threatening illnesses.
- I do all our household's errands out in crowded public places and have NEVER covered my face.
- I live with someone who is my age and works, IN PERSON, full time with neglected teenagers who are usually sick - yet neither of us have had so much as a sniffle since all of 2020.
- I do not indulge in pole-eee-ticks, religions, (anti-)social medias, games, TV or other diversions which would misuse my life's energies;
I choose instead to consciously direct my life's energies in order to live through each day in fullness and peace.
- I am in the US - and have no idea about what it is like in other countries except that I do carefully select some non-mainstream content put up by some international folks and what they show more than anything is that this has all been a power grab planned and executed by insane, power mad oligarchs.
We - here - choose NOT to participate - much the same way that Florida, Texas and other places in the US are openly choosing to do.
A few highly pertinent questions for those who express strong opinions in support of the WWI:
1 - Did you read the info that StillStanding shared in the OP - or better still, the book itself which was written by an MD and was shared here long before the WWI began ??
2 - Have you made the effort to read ALL the fact-based info right in this thread ??
3 - Are you at all open-minded, or have you already chosen to follow the fear inducing stuff that is repeated endlessly vi mainstream media ??
A bit of help is now added for anyone who is aversive to reading entire, multi-page threads here - this 1st bit was written by a very well known MD:
(04-18-2021 03:47 PM)smithnowt Wrote: [ -> ]for sharing that pointer here Jolis !!
(+Rep given, as always.)
For anyone who is NOT a subscribed member of mercola.com that page only goes as far as to force subscribing with an email address - so I did - with a temp mail which is already gone.
Here follows the full text of it, MINUS that forced join-up and all of the excessively commercial krap at his site.
I hope it may be helpful for some of the members.
Quote:The Ugly Truth About COVID
Story at-a-glance
Pandemics ~ Data and Analytics (PANDA), co-founded by Nick Hudson, is using live data and open science to empower the public to exercise freedom of choice and preserve free societies
Hudson explains the ugly truth about COVID-19, which is that the world is being needlessly crippled by fear due to a false narrative
The pandemic response has created “homosapienophobia” — the idea that everyone is dangerous until proven healthy
Data compiled by PANDA found no relationship between lockdowns and COVID-19 deaths per million people; the disease followed a trajectory of linear decline regardless of whether or not lockdowns were imposed
With looming vaccine passports, the loss of personal liberties is at an unprecedented level, while people are generally living “enslaved by fear” — fear of infection or reinfection, “long COVID,” resurgence and mutant variants
Nick Hudson, an actuary and private equity investor, co-founded Pandemics ~ Data and Analytics (PANDA) in response to the many threats to civil rights and freedoms that have occurred during the COVID-19 pandemic response. While media and public health institutions have engaged in a campaign of smoke and mirrors — one that is perpetuating paralyzing fear, needlessly, to this day — data and facts don’t lie.
Hudson and his team at PANDA, which include a data analyst, economist, medical doctors, big data analyst and public health experts, are using live data1 and open science to empower the public to exercise freedom of choice and preserve free societies.
Hudson spoke at the inaugural BizNews Investment Conference in March 2021, and his keynote address is above. He explains the ugly truth about COVID-19, which is that the world is being crippled by fear due to a false narrative. Anyone who challenges that narrative is being labeled as a lunatic, a menace or a danger to society, which is furthering the repression and unjustified fear.
Bringing COVID-19 Truth to Light
George Washington famously said, “Truth will ultimately prevail where there are plans taken to bring it to light.”3 With that in mind, Hudson saw the “seeds of a great tragedy” being planted with the false COVID-19 narrative, and has made it a mission to get the truth out. So, what is the reality about the pandemic?
According to Hudson:
A virus that presents high risk to few and negligible risk to most hit some regions
Few are susceptible to severe disease
There are several available treatments
Asymptomatic people are not major drivers of disease
Lockdowns and mask mandates haven’t worked and instead caused great harm
The vulnerable were hurt instead of helped
The misinformation has been spewed from the beginning, including by World Health Organization director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. In a March 3, 2020, media briefing, he stated, “Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.”
But according to Hudson, the 3.4% represents case fatality rate (CFR), which is the number of deaths from COVID-19 divided by the number of cases of COVID-19, while the 1% is infection fatality rate (IFR), or the number of deaths divided by all infected individuals.
“By conflating these two separate points (CFR and IFR),” Hudson said, “Tedros was effectively lying.” Quantitative scientist John Ioannidis, professor of medicine at the Stanford Prevention Research Center, calculated the IFR for COVID-19 in a review of 61 seroprevalence studies, which was a median of 0.23%, and 0.05% in people younger than 70.6
Based on this, the IFR for COVID-19 is lower than that of the flu. And wouldn’t you know it, in a New England Journal of Medicine editorial published March 26, 2020, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), and colleagues wrote that “the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza.”
The media have suppressed this fact, Hudson noted, along with the fact that there’s a 1,000 times difference in mortality among those younger than 19 and those older than 70 — something that should have been taken into account in the pandemic response.
Is COVID-19 Really a ‘Novel Virus’?
Further inflaming widespread fear is the idea that COVID-19 is a “novel virus,” which makes it sound like it’s something humans have never encountered before. But is it really? According to Hudson:
“The reality is that the coronavirus is a very close relative, not even a separate subspecies, a very close relative of the 2003 SARS virus. There are seven related coronaviruses known to cause disease in humans, probably many others, and four of them are in general circulation.
Annual, global circulation. So the naming of this disease is terribly inconsistent. This is really a rose by any name, SARS. A variant of SARS. It’s not novel.”
One study even found that 81% of people not exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, were still able to mount an immune response against it, which “suggests at least some built-in immune protection from SARS-CoV-2 …”
Nonetheless, Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s technical lead for the COVID-19 pandemic, stated that “a majority of the world’s population is susceptible to infection from this virus.” This is the first of two key elements that, Hudson said, lead to “homosapienophobia” — the idea that everyone is dangerous until proven healthy.
The idea of universal susceptibility to COVID-19 is nonsense, Hudson noted, as was demonstrated early on with the Diamond Princess cruise ship. Among the 3,711 passengers and crew onboard the Diamond Princess, 712 (19.2%) tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, and of these 46.5% were asymptomatic at the time of testing. Of those showing symptoms, only 9.7% required intensive care and 1.3% (nine) died.
PANDA data also showed that, starting in February 2021, there was not universal susceptibility to the virus. Their data showed cumulative COVID-19 deaths per million people. In Africa, Southeast Asia and Oceania, the population fatality rate was 112 per million compared to 710 per million in Europe and the Americas.
As for Africa, Southeast Asia and Oceania, Hudson said, “the population fatality rate there almost isn’t an epidemic. In a typical year, they’d have 10,000 deaths per million from all causes.”
Fear Mongering Over Asymptomatic Spread
The second element that enables the doctrine of “everyone being a danger” to continue is the idea of asymptomatic spread driving disease. “I was absolutely aghast to find out the poor quality of the science” behind it, Hudson said.
One of the seminal papers involved one woman who reportedly infected 16 colleagues while she was asymptomatic.11 The study was widely used to suggest that asymptomatic spread was occurring, but controversy later ensued over whether the woman was actually asymptomatic when the others were infected or if she was symptomatic and being treated for flu-like symptoms at the time.
In June 2020, Kerkhove also made it very clear that people who have COVID-19 without any symptoms “rarely” transmit the disease to others. But in a dramatic about-face, WHO then backtracked on the statement just one day later. June 9, 2020, Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO’s emergencies program, quickly backpedaled Van Kerkhove’s statement, saying the remarks were “misinterpreted or maybe we didn’t use the most elegant words to explain that.”
“It’s utter, utter nonsense,” Hudson said, adding that Fauci also stated in January 2020, “asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks. The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person.”
A JAMA Network Open study later found, in December 2020, that asymptomatic transmission is not a primary driver of infection within households.
A study in Nature Communications also found "there was no evidence of transmission from asymptomatic positive persons to traced close contacts."
Lockdown Madness
The myth of widespread asymptomatic spread is what was used to justify worldwide lockdowns of healthy people. “Bruce Aylward will go down in history as a criminal of immense stature,” Hudson said, referring to Aylward’s role as the head of a WHO team that visited Wuhan, China, and concluded lockdowns were working to stop COVID-19 spread.
“He takes a delegation to China, spends a few days, then comes back and says everyone should follow China’s response, the doctrine of universal susceptibility,” Hudson said. Yet, prior to the COVID-19 pandemic official guidelines for pandemic response plans recommend against large-scale quarantine of the healthy.
In fact, WHO wrote that during an influenza pandemic, quarantine of exposed individuals, entry and exit screening and border closure are “not recommended in any circumstance.”
Likewise, in 2021 a study published in the European Journal of Clinical Investigation found no significant benefits on COVID-19 case growth in regions using more restrictive nonpharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) such as mandatory stay‐at‐home and business closure orders (i.e., lockdowns).
Data compiled by PANDA also found no relationship between lockdowns and COVID-19 deaths per million people. The disease followed a trajectory of linear decline regardless of whether or not lockdowns were imposed.
What isn’t a lie, however, is that lockdowns cause a great deal of harm. Infant mortality, poverty, starvation and joblessness are on the rise, as are delays in medical treatment and diagnosis, psychological disorders among youth, suicide and deaths of despair.
Education has been disrupted for an estimated 1.6 billion children, Hudson said, and a survey of 2,000 U.S. adults revealed that 1 in 6 Americans started therapy for the first time during 2020. Nearly half (45%) of the survey respondents confirmed that the COVID-19 pandemic was the driving reason that triggered them to seek a therapist’s help.20 According to Hudson:
“Perhaps the hardest thing for me to swallow about all of this is in undergraduate epidemiology, it is a well-known finding that when you are confronted with a disease with sharp edge graduation, as you are with coronavirus, measures to generally suppress the spread of the disease have the effect, reliably, of shifting the disease burden onto the vulnerable, who we should be protecting. They worsen coronavirus mortality.”
Mask Rhetoric Is Misleading
It’s been touted that face masks are essential to stopping the spread of COVID-19 and could save 130,000 lives in the U.S. alone. But in 2019, the World Health Organization analyzed 10 randomized controlled trials and concluded, “there was no evidence that facemasks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”
Only one randomized controlled trial has been conducted on mask usage and COVID-19 transmission, and it found masks did not statistically significantly reduce the incidence of infection.
You may remember that in the early days of the pandemic, face masks were not recommended for the general public. In February 2020, Christine Francis, a consultant for infection prevention and control at WHO headquarters, was featured in a video, holding up a disposable face mask.
She said, “Medical masks like this one cannot protect against the new coronavirus when used alone … WHO only recommends the use of masks in specific cases.”
As of March 31, 2020, WHO was still advising against the use of face masks for people without symptoms, stating that there is “no evidence” that such mask usage prevents COVID-19 transmission.
But by June 2020, the rhetoric had changed. Citing “evolving evidence,” WHO reversed their recommendation and began advising governments to encourage the general public to wear masks where there is widespread transmission and physical distancing is difficult.
Yet that same day, June 5, 2020, WHO published an announcement stating:
“At present, there is no direct evidence (from studies on COVID-19 and in healthy people in the community) on the effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people in the community to prevent infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19.”
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did a similar about-face on mask usage, citing a study of two hair dressers in Missouri, who were reportedly symptomatic with COVID-19 and styled 139 clients’ hair.
None of the clients tested positive for COVID-19, which the CDC suggested was because they and the stylists wore masks.28 Hudson believes, however, that the customers were probably young and not susceptible to the virus in the first place.
Another study published in the CDC’s journal Emerging Infectious Diseases stated, “We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility.”
PANDA data also showed no differences in transmission in states with mask mandates and those without. Still, health officials are now advising you should double or triple up on masks to make them work better.
Vaccines Being Sold as a Ticket to Freedom
People who stand to make countless billions out of COVID-19 vaccines are now selling them as a ticket to freedom, Hudson states:
“How convenient that we now have a logic that tells us that we need to vaccinate 7.8 billion people for a disease that has a mean survival rate of 99.95% for people under the age of 70. The profiteering here is naked. It is transparent.”
It’s a sad situation when teenagers, who aren’t at high risk, are lining up for vaccines just to get their freedoms back, he adds. When you add in all the other inconsistencies and lies — PCR tests that are not capable of diagnosing infectiousness, inflated death numbers, restrictions on travel, media propaganda and arbitrary rules, like the CDC’s recent change in physical distancing in classrooms from 6 feet to 3 feet — it’s as though we’re living in an Orwellian reality.
With looming vaccine passports, the loss of personal liberties is at an unprecedented level, while people are generally “enslaved by fear” — fear of infection or reinfection, “long COVID,” resurgence and mutant variants. “The underpinnings of our civilization are under threat,” Hudson noted, and we have a choice. “We’ve been pushed up against a precipice, will we be pushed off or will we push back?”
He urges people to support the Great Barrington Declaration, which calls for “focused protection” and finding a middle ground between locking down an entire economy and just “letting it rip.” As of April 4, 2021, the declaration has collected 41,890 signatures from medical practitioners and over 13,796 signatures from medical and public health scientists.
In addition, the declaration is open for public signatures and has collected 764,089 from concerned citizens around the world. The website allows you to read and sign the declaration, answers many frequently asked questions, shares the science behind the recommendations and explains how the declaration was written.
PANDA also published a protocol for reopening society “to provide a road map out of the damaging cycle of lockdowns.”
Hudson quoted Nelson Mandela, who stated courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. We all need to strive for courage and support awareness campaigns aimed at stopping the harmful narrative, relieving fear and protecting future freedom.
Enjoy and Prosper in Perfect Health !!
Here is one of our own fellow members citing very useful info:
(10-27-2017 12:36 PM)solar33 Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't downloaded this but I HAVE been researching this in-depth for the past 16 years, because of it directly affecting my family. However, I'm not going into it here. This isn't the place. I will just thank the OP for sharing this and advise you to go and do some independent research and see what you find. Hint: Take a look at 'heavy metals' (mecury and aluminium) and 'leaky gut' + plus 'blood-brain barrier'.
What I will say is that a good friend of mine is a pharmaceutical chemist and worked for GSK for more than 16 years at a very senior level, doing multi-million dollar international deals. She left because of the lies and cover-ups.
You people have no idea what a ticking time-bomb society is heading towards. Don't just think Autism. Think Alzheimers, depression etc too.
When I worked on the hospital wards years ago, a broken thermometer was no big deal; it was just disposed of. These days, when that happens, the area needs to be cordoned-off and a dedicated hazmat team called in for clean-up.
Now, you really think it's safe to have that cr@p in fillings in your mouth? You think it's okay to inject that into young children - along with a cocktail of other metals and "variables"? I won't even take any prescription drugs - not even an asprin. The last time I needed to see the doctor was 21 years ago - and that was a broken tib and fib while playing football. I have an immune system. My whole family have immune systems. We never need the doctor - and I have several doctor and surgeon friends who won't disagree with me. More people should wake up to this. Nuff said. I'm done!
Here is a very telling exchange between 2 other members for your consideration as well:
(03-15-2016 09:41 AM)scanvenger Wrote: [ -> ](03-14-2016 03:29 PM)Vijayaraj Wrote: [ -> ]Kindly remove this crap
I would support you if you can explain why you call it a crap. If you think vaccines are helping you to become resistant to diseases...think again and do your own research. If you have elderly who are still living preferably those who are centenarians and healthy, ask them if they have been vaccinated when they were young boys and girls.
If you believed that modern medicine particularly in the world of vaccines that it is helping humanity, good luck to you. But it's not too late to wake up and learn.
As usual... Max REPS to OP.
This link points to my most recent entry in another thread which has loads of info within its ~5 pages:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-WORL...pid3285315
And I stand behind the info which I've posted right in this very thread, especially that which appears from reply #33, onward and I suggest for anyone open-minded enough to accept other than the mainstream narrative to carefully examine all the info which aims strong doubts at the WWI - and if courageous enough - to also examine the LACK of all factual, scientific evidence proving that any such a thing as a 'medical virus' has been isolated and shown to cause actual illness directly.
By way of contrast however - many, many medical professionals have already come forward explaining clearly how the MRNA shots are deadly for many and bring about internally destructive results - either immediately, or causing huge sufferings and eventual deaths.
I send along my best wishes to you and all the good folks who are struggling with this mess.
