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(11-09-2021 03:58 AM)solar33 Wrote: [ -> ]Solar33

Solar33

Some news from Russia:

antivaxes: "The hospitals are not crowded now, as they were before, because the virus has passed through pretty much everyone by now and they have antibodies. The virus has also mutated into a less dangerous strain."

reality: "Russia registered this Tuesday (2021 November 9) over 1,211 deaths by covid-19, which represents a new record of victims throughout the entire pandemic, according to information released by the committee to fight the disease."
"Local authorities continue to attribute the recent increase in cases and deaths to the aggressiveness of the delta variant, to the lack of strict compliance with prevention rules and, above all, to the low rate of vaccination in the country."

Looking at the numbers, it seems that this virus likes to trick people. "Vaccines don't work", the virus say, "but I'll not attack vaccinated people just for fun!"
@Vivekananda:
Plain and simply spoken - you have provided ONLY useless blather based upon the mainstream narrative that ANYONE can get from ANY mainstream TV network.

You avoid factually answering the queries aimed towards yourself 100% - then go on from your soapbox with hugely lengthy replies filled with nothing of ANY factual value.

KINDLY ANSWER THE QUERIES AIMED TOWARDS YOUR ENDLESS STREAM OF BLATHER MINUS ANY FURTHER EXCUSES, DELAYS OR UTTER NONSENSE.

OR:

Your ability to post ANYTHING here should at the very least be moderated as your replies are irrational, non-factual and aimed to just bury anything of value under a pile of meaningless verbiage.


Typical trolling shill behaviour.

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Quote:I want a real solution. IF anyone can prove that ivermectin or choloroquine works, I think it's great - it's a cheap medicine.

https://plague.info/2021-09-14-chlorine-...livia.html

Have you not read what I have said? I have already given you a real solution.

I have used chlorine dioxide successfully to treat myself and my family, as well as my pets.

Furthermore, I don't trust Ivermectin because I have personally heard that it does not work all the time. If it does work, it takes too long. I cannot speak for hydroxychloroquine, because I have never tried it. (Not necessary at this stage.)

Another treatment that has worked for my wife is this:

1. Put 3 tablespoons of linseed in a blender until it is very fine.
2. Add water and simmer for 20-30 minutes.
3. Screen out the coarse material with a flour sieve.
4. Add 2 tablespoons of lemon juice to the solution and drink it. (the solution will have a thick consistency)
5. You should see results within an hour.

Please try chlorine dioxide yourself and tell me that it did not work for you.

If something does not work for me, I research and try something else... not just read about it and discard it due to the negative things that I have read about it.

So although chlorine dioxide works for me (it may not work for you personally), there are many other alternatives as well (such as electroshock therapy), especially here in the miscellaneous section.

Here is a site you can try for almost any book:

https://za1lib.org/

The Cure for All Diseases: With Many Case Histories
https://za1lib.org/book/592809/78b01a

Forbidden Health by Andreas Kalcker (z-lib.org)
https://za1lib.org/book/15434367/029a86


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I want a real solution. IF anyone can prove that ivermectin or choloroquine works, I think it's great - it's a cheap medicine.
Of course, this would bring about a revolution in the methods used by science around the world. I wouldn't be sad if it had to happen this way. Hitface
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It's good to hear that at least you ended with some good 'ol common sense...
And that is what I was trying to get across here as well.

My point was that science and doctor's have been VERY wrong in the past (on both sides of the issue) and that as more information/statistics/data becomes available and isn't being suppressed (like in India) or manipulated (aka: Dr. Fauci and other's) we will start to get REAL scientific data that can be used to get better results BUT all of this should be tempered with the individuals rights to get or not get the "vaccine".

The current facts are this China virus has a less than 1% death rate and is spread by both those that have gotten the shot and those that have not. There have been health complications up to and including death by a small number of people who have gotten the jab(s), and we have NO IDEA what the long term possible health related issues may or may not be. (you might want to look up "Gulf War syndrome" to see what so called "safe" vaccines can do long term to some people, in that case to over a third of all who were giving the shots). I'm not suggesting we stop all vaccines as they have saved millions from small pox, polio, etc., but I do have issues when I am being forced to take a shot(s) for something that has such a low death rate and hasn't been tested long term. I also have an issue when we are told the entire world population MUST get these shot(s)...since again that is just bad science and stupid from a logical viewpoint (what if this shot turns out in x years to sterilize the recipeandt? Humanity would be f#$ked and for what? To "solve" a 1% chance of death to just a small population (obese, multiple comorbidities and old people) and you wipe out humanity over a "vaccine" that wasn't even NEEDED? (again, common sense, would I take the shot if this were the black plague that killed over 50% of those infected, yeah I would but again if someone had it and survived I wouldn't force them to then get a shot....(again, that would go against established science and increase the risk of a bad reaction crisis down the road to everyone).

My issues with this are forcing people to get the shot both before and after they have gotten Covid. It is a personal choice that should have nothing to do with the government, your job, etc., especially if the "vaccines" really worked then if you got the shot you wouldn't have to worry about anyone else that hasn't since you would be protected from contracting the virus....NOT!

Being lied to by the Government, Dr. Fauci, Doctor's, Politicians (well, we all know they do that always) and scientists that claim to lie because it's in our best interests.....B-U-L-L-S-#-$-T.....that is not their job (except for the politicians), they are there ONLY to present the TRUTH as well as they currently know it from the data and PROVEN science (at the time, as it can change with new data, experimentation, etc.) and NOT give use their subjective opinions (unless presented as such) and make moral statements "because they thought it was for the greatest good" or whatever nonsense they try to sell it as.

There are SO many examples of BS that any inquisitive person that only looks at the facts should be asking...
1) Dr. Fauci - lied to Congress about gain of function research. HE funded this God d*** virus in China for monetary gain, HE should be held responsible and removed from his position and put in jail (if found guilty). He lied about masks. He may have lied about alternative treatments like Ivermectin, etc. and restricted their testing.
And really, what Doctor of good faith would go around a Federal restriction to fund questionable, and dangerous biological (potential weapons) research in a cold war enemy (of the US) run by a Communist Totalitarian regime? I mean, heck this is how most Sci-Fi stories begin....."No one knows how the Zombie Virus escaped the Bio Lab doing Gain of Function research to help humanity but which has instead doomed humanity to walk the Earth as zombies......." I mean, geez, you can't make this S$#t up...and they ACTUALLY did it! (okay, not the zombie part, but you get the idea that gain of function research is a really bad idea..at least not when little to NO precautions were taken to guard against public transmission. (unless it was purposely done by the Communist Chinese Gov't?). Hell, I'm not a scientist or doctor but I have enough common sense to know that if you are playing with deadly pathogens you might want to take extra precautions say like putting the lab in an unpopulated area...(i.e. Antarctica, Sahara dessert, Space Station, the Moon, etc.) and have a halfway point that ALL researchers would have to stay in (a month, 6 months, etc.????) to make sure they aren't infected before coming back to civilization. I mean WTF? These are supposed to be smart people and they can't figure this out themselves? Maybe they should make a mandatory requirement in college for all future scientists and doctor's to have to take a sci fi reading class so they can have a good idea how/when things can go horribly wrong (even if it is just fiction when reading)....because they obviously, don't have a clue about safety precautions.
2) Lied to by doctor's about possible treatments (like Ivermectin) and other "cheap", already existing drugs (aspirin, etc.). Also, found out that respirator's were doing more harm and good. (again, not saying they should/could have known this before having reliable data from actual employment of the equipment but once it came in, they should have changed the protocols much sooner and lives would have been saved. This also goes for Ivermectin, IF it does pass double blind tests to be affective (not saying it is) against Covid, why wasn't it tested a year ago? Why did it take so long to get the testing done for a drug that has anecdotal and some data available saying it works (aka: India and some other countries)....Shouldn't those in charge (like Dr. Fauci) be held responsible for this because potentially hundred of thousands, Millions? of lives could have been saved? Where are the gov't hearings on this? If proven, WILL there even be hearing on this? (hint: Probably not).
3) the MAIN cause of death from this virus is being over weight or obese (or the complications from them like diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.) yet NO ONE is demanding people lose weight immediately to save their lives. No one is suggesting we limit sugar consumption daily or stop people from eating fast foods rather than whole foods prepared at home???? Why not? Why the lies? Why not FIRE fat people from their jobs since they are more likely to get/have Covid because of their ill health and cost the company more money for their health bills? For what, 90 +% (minus those with a hormone imbalance or other issue) of fat people can simply stop eating to lose weight...it's THEIR CHOICE to be fat!!!! Why don't you charge them more for health insurance premiums? (like they want to do with the "unvaccinated"?) since they will need more hospital care? Why aren't AIDS patients or gay people charged more for potential AIDS infections? Why aren't woman charged more because they use more medical services (on average, over a lifetime) than men?.......I'm not saying to do the above things but if you are going to single out a particular group then you should do it equally across the board for all future potential ailments and treatment costs, not just those you don't like or are approved by public support (i.e smoking)

I had more but for now this has gone on way to long.......
Later.
(11-10-2021 03:54 PM)Diablofield Wrote: [ -> ]"So although chlorine dioxide works for me (it may not work for you personally), there are many other alternatives as well (such as electroshock therapy), especially here in the miscellaneous section. "
Looks like the illusion that something is a cure, but if it fails with another person... "oh, it may not work for you personally". As I already said, I believe in the answers given by clinical research, not by a personal impression.
The first time I had pharyngitis the doctor prescribed me an antibiotic, and I was cured in less than 30 days. The second time I felt the onset of symptoms, I was away from urban centers to seek medical help, so I turned to a pranayama (breathing technique + mentalization) I learned in Yoga practices - and the next day I didn't feel the symptoms anymore. This also occurred a third time. But I can't say for sure that I was healed because of this, especially because I don't know if I would be healed without practicing pranayama.
And... of course, if I suspect that I'm infected by covid, I think I would seek a doctor, but also use pranayamas.
(11-10-2021 01:57 PM)smithnowt Wrote: [ -> ]@Vivekananda:
Plain and simply spoken - you have provided ONLY useless blather based upon the mainstream narrative that ANYONE can get from ANY mainstream TV network.

smithnowt

"you have provided ONLY useless blather based upon the mainstream narrative that ANYONE can get from ANY mainstream TV network"

It's your opinion, you have the right to express it, even if you're wrong.
AND even a mainstream tv network sometimes give us the facts.

"KINDLY ANSWER THE QUERIES AIMED TOWARDS YOUR ENDLESS STREAM OF BLATHER MINUS ANY FURTHER EXCUSES, DELAYS OR UTTER NONSENSE."

I think that I do understand why you call me a "troll".
You are nervous because I showed some fallacies of yours in another thread.
Please write again these "queries aimed" (allegedly) "towards me", AND tell us what sources of information you consider reliable. As far as I am able to answer, I'll do it. If not, I'll tell you.
I repeat: here in Brazil the pandemics is starting to decrease due to vaccination.
Allow me a small correction: the information that we had zero deaths was a little optmistic - and wrong. Today the news correct the number: we had 9 deaths by covid in the city of São Paulo.
It seems that the state governor (that wants to run for president) lied a little.
Anyway, we have an estimated number of more than 12.33 million of inhabitants in São Paulo (in 2020).

"Your ability to post ANYTHING here should at the very least be moderated" (... blablabla ...) "Typical trolling shill behaviour."

And now you want to use censorship - typical behavior of dictators who doesn't like to hear nothing except ideas in agreement with their beliefs.
-Yawn-

@Vivekananda AGAIN:
My queries have been moved several times after you deliberately buried them with your endless trolling rants here - and now you pretend not to have seen them...sure, uh-huh.

BUT:
Oddly enough this member DID look back to quote me for his latest RASH of RANTS here, but somehow could not seem to find the queries posted right here - which remain 100% unanswered:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...pid3357570
(At post #158, just 2 pages back in this very thread.)

Now, on a more forum related note, I have examined your published stats here at BBHF, and find them to be quite fascinating.

Joined: 12-04-2013

In all the time since then, this member account made a TOTAL of THREE shares here - wow.

Out of this account's 5,149 posts - meaning 0.000582637 of it's total is shares made for the other members, but that brings up another very interesting and easily observable FACT=>

Whomever had this account took a hiatus from here starting after 11-18-2020, and whomever is using this account now returned to MOSTLY do trolling 1-07-2021.

Most of this member's posting since she/he returned has been trolling on 2 specific threads which attempt to debunk the plandemic and its artifacts.

Of course the usual reasons may all apply - too busy, lost interest, illness - or maybe the account was either hijacked or even sold...?

Since only the mods can know more specifics via the IP addresses used - it must be time to ask them to have a look at this user's membership.

Back to the thread topic itself, another highly suspicious thing about these endless trolling rants is that they show acute disrespect for the OP - who is truly amazing with 23 THOUSAND posts - mostly shares and re-ups as well as 1/2 MILLION gifts of Rep from appreciative members.

Comparing that to this troll's visible stats=>
After ~8 years as a member, she/he has a whole 318 Reps to show for it, and that speaks rather loudly as well.

Also, the author of the published work shared in the OP here (21 Reasons Not to Get Vaccinated) is:
Keith Scott-Mumby MD, Phd
And aside of his visible credentials - he has published over 30 books aimed at helping folks to gain better health.

But of course ms. or mr. trolling shill will simply dismiss all of that as being 'fake news' or 'conspiracy theories'.

I'm calling you out ms. or mr. trolling shill - you are at the very least a menace aiming harm at those who mean well towards others - and at worst an inhumane, unkind soul-less creature who wishes untimely deaths towards those who are too trusting.

I've patiently waited to see if you would indeed give us all a nice, long rest away from your empty rants - but you persist, so it is time to call you out and ask others here to do the same.


And BTW - back on topic here:
In the US, the agencies involved in all of the 'virus' stuff - right up to the CDC itself, openly admit that NO SAMPLE of any such 'virus' is on hand, or available, or has EVER been isolated, so:

How can there be some specific 'vaccine' for a supposed 'illness' which is really just an illness of unsuspecting people's minds via misguided thoughts ??

It may be that this wonderful trolling shill is a highly credentialed medical scientist with unimpeachable integrity AND is the ONE person on this planet who HAS isolated this supposed illness...but=>

That seems very doubtful in light of all the empty verbiage that this person has excreted here thus far, sorry.
The case for losing weight if you are fat----->to help guard you against getting, and having chronic conditions from China Covid...



(03-14-2016 03:29 PM)DrunkenPanda Wrote: [ -> ]Kindly remove this crap


I brought you shit man!
Uh oh, those pesky data facts/statistics aren't adhering to the agenda/propaganda set by Dr. Fauci/leftist politicians/doctors, etc., what are they going to do now that the data/statistics are showing higher infection rates in higher vaccinated states? (i.e. California vs Florida, New Mexico, Colorado, Vermont and also in countries like the UK and Germany).....

Also, you might want to ask why the Senate and House of Representatives does NOT have a mask requirement......Hmmmmmmmm, maybe they know something the ignorant masses of useful idiots don't? Also, why are politicians like Presiden Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, London Breed, and countless others ALL screaming for YOU to wear scientifically debunked useless masks (including your kids in school) but THEY themselves don't wear them????????? How about the Teachers Union president who removes her mask giving a speech (claimed people couldn't hear her) but forces children to wear masks ALL day in schools even though they are useless, possibly dangerous to a person's/kids health and gee, don't you think it also makes communication hard to hear between a teacher and child in class......Hmmmmmm, say one thing and do another.

Start to wake up people, this nonsense is ALL BS, made to keep you in an unwarranted state of perpetual fear, control you and make you conform to everything THEY want YOU to do while THEY don't have to follow any of the rules they dictate and make mandatory for YOU to OBEY...







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