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I want a real solution. IF anyone can prove that ivermectin or choloroquine works, I think it's great - it's a cheap medicine.
Of course, this would bring about a revolution in the methods used by science around the world. I wouldn't be sad if it had to happen this way.
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It's good to hear that at least you ended with some good 'ol common sense...
And that is what I was trying to get across here as well.
My point was that science and doctor's have been VERY wrong in the past (on both sides of the issue) and that as more information/statistics/data becomes available and isn't being suppressed (like in India) or manipulated (aka: Dr. Fauci and other's) we will start to get REAL scientific data that can be used to get better results BUT all of this should be tempered with the individuals rights to get or not get the "vaccine".
The current facts are this China virus has a less than 1% death rate and is spread by both those that have gotten the shot and those that have not. There have been health complications up to and including death by a small number of people who have gotten the jab(s), and we have NO IDEA what the long term possible health related issues may or may not be. (you might want to look up "Gulf War syndrome" to see what so called "safe" vaccines can do long term to some people, in that case to over a third of all who were giving the shots). I'm not suggesting we stop all vaccines as they have saved millions from small pox, polio, etc., but I do have issues when I am being forced to take a shot(s) for something that has such a low death rate and hasn't been tested long term. I also have an issue when we are told the entire world population MUST get these shot(s)...since again that is just bad science and stupid from a logical viewpoint (what if this shot turns out in x years to sterilize the recipeandt? Humanity would be f#$ked and for what? To "solve" a 1% chance of death to just a small population (obese, multiple comorbidities and old people) and you wipe out humanity over a "vaccine" that wasn't even NEEDED? (again, common sense, would I take the shot if this were the black plague that killed over 50% of those infected, yeah I would but again if someone had it and survived I wouldn't force them to then get a shot....(again, that would go against established science and increase the risk of a bad reaction crisis down the road to everyone).
My issues with this are forcing people to get the shot both before and after they have gotten Covid. It is a personal choice that should have nothing to do with the government, your job, etc., especially if the "vaccines" really worked then if you got the shot you wouldn't have to worry about anyone else that hasn't since you would be protected from contracting the virus....NOT!
Being lied to by the Government, Dr. Fauci, Doctor's, Politicians (well, we all know they do that always) and scientists that claim to lie because it's in our best interests.....B-U-L-L-S-#-$-T.....that is not their job (except for the politicians), they are there ONLY to present the TRUTH as well as they currently know it from the data and PROVEN science (at the time, as it can change with new data, experimentation, etc.) and NOT give use their subjective opinions (unless presented as such) and make moral statements "because they thought it was for the greatest good" or whatever nonsense they try to sell it as.
There are SO many examples of BS that any inquisitive person that only looks at the facts should be asking...
1) Dr. Fauci - lied to Congress about gain of function research. HE funded this God d*** virus in China for monetary gain, HE should be held responsible and removed from his position and put in jail (if found guilty). He lied about masks. He may have lied about alternative treatments like Ivermectin, etc. and restricted their testing.
And really, what Doctor of good faith would go around a Federal restriction to fund questionable, and dangerous biological (potential weapons) research in a cold war enemy (of the US) run by a Communist Totalitarian regime? I mean, heck this is how most Sci-Fi stories begin....."No one knows how the Zombie Virus escaped the Bio Lab doing Gain of Function research to help humanity but which has instead doomed humanity to walk the Earth as zombies......." I mean, geez, you can't make this S$#t up...and they ACTUALLY did it! (okay, not the zombie part, but you get the idea that gain of function research is a really bad idea..at least not when little to NO precautions were taken to guard against public transmission. (unless it was purposely done by the Communist Chinese Gov't?). Hell, I'm not a scientist or doctor but I have enough common sense to know that if you are playing with deadly pathogens you might want to take extra precautions say like putting the lab in an unpopulated area...(i.e. Antarctica, Sahara dessert, Space Station, the Moon, etc.) and have a halfway point that ALL researchers would have to stay in (a month, 6 months, etc.????) to make sure they aren't infected before coming back to civilization. I mean WTF? These are supposed to be smart people and they can't figure this out themselves? Maybe they should make a mandatory requirement in college for all future scientists and doctor's to have to take a sci fi reading class so they can have a good idea how/when things can go horribly wrong (even if it is just fiction when reading)....because they obviously, don't have a clue about safety precautions.
2) Lied to by doctor's about possible treatments (like Ivermectin) and other "cheap", already existing drugs (aspirin, etc.). Also, found out that respirator's were doing more harm and good. (again, not saying they should/could have known this before having reliable data from actual employment of the equipment but once it came in, they should have changed the protocols much sooner and lives would have been saved. This also goes for Ivermectin, IF it does pass double blind tests to be affective (not saying it is) against Covid, why wasn't it tested a year ago? Why did it take so long to get the testing done for a drug that has anecdotal and some data available saying it works (aka: India and some other countries)....Shouldn't those in charge (like Dr. Fauci) be held responsible for this because potentially hundred of thousands, Millions? of lives could have been saved? Where are the gov't hearings on this? If proven, WILL there even be hearing on this? (hint: Probably not).
3) the MAIN cause of death from this virus is being over weight or obese (or the complications from them like diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.) yet NO ONE is demanding people lose weight immediately to save their lives. No one is suggesting we limit sugar consumption daily or stop people from eating fast foods rather than whole foods prepared at home???? Why not? Why the lies? Why not FIRE fat people from their jobs since they are more likely to get/have Covid because of their ill health and cost the company more money for their health bills? For what, 90 +% (minus those with a hormone imbalance or other issue) of fat people can simply stop eating to lose weight...it's THEIR CHOICE to be fat!!!! Why don't you charge them more for health insurance premiums? (like they want to do with the "unvaccinated"?) since they will need more hospital care? Why aren't AIDS patients or gay people charged more for potential AIDS infections? Why aren't woman charged more because they use more medical services (on average, over a lifetime) than men?.......I'm not saying to do the above things but if you are going to single out a particular group then you should do it equally across the board for all future potential ailments and treatment costs, not just those you don't like or are approved by public support (i.e smoking)
I had more but for now this has gone on way to long.......
Later.
