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(01-18-2022 12:17 AM)infoscan Wrote: [ -> ]How to get rid of this pandemic? It is a just a numbers game. Let us scale down this pandemic to one country, any country. If you have a 70% of this country's citizens vaccinated, then you have only 30% left no vaccinated who can infect others. If you have 90% vaccinated, you have only 10% left, and so on. That means that the virus has fewer people to mutate on and will die out. So simple is that.

You started out correct but then just like so many others got lost in misinformation about how the vaccines for Covid "work".

This is NOT how we will get rid of this pandemic as the vaccine does NOT stop you from contracting the virus, it also does NOT stop you from infecting others if you get the virus so your example is mistaken and NOT based on science or what the actual numbers are showing. (ie: that unvaccinated AND vaccinated, even those with multiple booster shots are getting the Covid Omicron virus).

Remember people, in the past there were NO vaccines and most pandemics (like the 1918-1919 Spanish Flu for example) came and went on their own once populations had been infected and NATURAL IMMUNITY took over, we DID NOT NEED to be vaccinated for the pandemic to end.....it did so on it's own...and THAT is the science behind stopping this pandemic. (even though it seems this one was manufactured in a laboratory by the Chinese and Dr. Death Fauci and others).

I am not saying we shouldn't ever use vaccines; they have their place and can save the lives of the most vulnerable or those with comorbidities (in the case of Covid), but to say vaccinations will stop this Covid pandemic is just NOT true and it is NOT how the science on this pandemic works (at least in this case for Covid).
I fully acknowledge if this were something like the black plague or small pox in indigenous populations (like in the America's when Europeans brought it to the Indian population who had NO immunity against it) it would be a different case since people would be fighting each other to get vaccinations since the death rates were extremely high (over 50%) in those cases. But that is NOT the case here with Covid, especially with large groups of populations (like most people under the age of 50 with no comorbidities that have death rates of less than 0.01%).

This MAN MADE Covid pandemic is coming to its natural end as the Omicron variant is basically a mild cold and has killed about as many people as Alec Baldwin has (I know that was in bad taste but I couldn't help writing it). Only the power hungry politicians, Dr. Death Fauci (who started this whole pandemic through the funding of gain of function lab testing in China) and other corrupt doctor's, hospitals and big pharma company executives want to KEEP this going on to get even MORE power and money...

It is OVER people, no more gloom and doom, hardly anyone is dying anymore from this Omicron Covid variant (why don't you hear about death rates anymore from this Omicron?), everyone seems to be getting this VERY contagious (even vaccinated get it) but VERY mild strain and once it blows through the entire population, which is stated to be in the next 2-3 weeks here is USA and quicker in UK and other countries, it will be ALL OVER! Yeah! Happy times are here again! Optimism should be coming from our politicians, doctor's, etc. but NOPE you don't hear a peep.....just more lockdowns, masks and other totalitarian BS.....

So lets see how fast our "leaders" bring down the mandatory mask rules, the draconian shutdowns and the mandatory jabs/boosters....once the TRUTH gets out and the REAL death rates (as in little to NONE) start getting out to the people.....
By the way, the South African counterpart to Dr. Death Fauci stated to the world this new variant was more contagious but MUCH LESS deadly and that hardly anyone had died from it in S.A. but our "leaders" choose to ignore the science and evidence and enact additional lockdowns, mask mandates and forced jabs/boosters for LITERALLY NO REASON (related to science). Unbelievable! They should be held for crimes against humanity (for this and for the withholding of drugs if they prove to be effective in future testing).

Be optimistic, be happy, you survived through this pandemic and came out the other side, IT"S JUST ABOUT OVER NOW! (without anymore jabs or boosters needed...at least at this time for this variant). See the article, I posted in the previous post about this.

And THAT my friend is as simple as it is!

I just take an example of one country, any country. If you know that most European countries have between 65 and 80% of their citizens vaccinated, this is proof of my statement that the virus in Omicron form is weak and not so dangerous as Covid-19 at the beginning of the pandemic. The "vaccine" people get is not a real vaccine, it consists of the genetic code of the Covid-19 virus, so the B and T cells in your body recognize the intruder and remember it for the future. At the same time, your immunity system will be activated to produce antibodies to fight the Covid-19 virus. As an example, I can take my own family. I was vaccinated one time and my wife was not vaccinated at all. We get a Covid-19 the same day. My period took one weak, but my wife was seak for 28 days, before she gets her negative test.

(01-18-2022 03:30 AM)infoscan Wrote: [ -> ]I just take an example of one country, any country. If you know that most European countries have between 65 and 80% of their citizens vaccinated, this is proof of my statement that the virus in Omicron form is weak and not so dangerous as Covid-19 at the beginning of the pandemic. The "vaccine" people get is not a real vaccine, it consists of the genetic code of the Covid-19 virus, so the B and T cells in your body recognize the intruder and remember it for the future. At the same time, your immunity system will be activated to produce antibodies to fight the Covid-19 virus. As an example, I can take my own family. I was vaccinated one time and my wife was not vaccinated at all. We get a Covid-19 the same day. My period took one weak, but my wife was seak for 28 days, before she gets her negative test.

Glad to hear you and your wife are okay after a bout with Covid.
Once again your first statement about Omicron and the first version of Covid is true yet that doesn't have anything to do with mandating vaccinations or the fact that once vaccinated you can still get and spread the virus (just like the unvaccinated).

So the only people that are affected by NOT getting the vaccine are the unvaccinated if that is what they choose to do. (or in this case NOT do).

I am all for vaccinations if you want to get them, but making it mandatory (or mandatory by default....losing your job, forced seclusion or covid camps, vaccine passports to travel anywhere or not being able to go anywhere except to buy food nonsense, etc.) should be a criminal offense as this is STILL an experimental drug with UNKNOWN long term side effects and even current debilitating side effects for some people (see my last few posts for the graph).

Logically, groups (older and comorbidities) with higher death rates would make more sense to get vaccinated but in lower (around <0.01%) death rate groups the risks of getting vaccinated outweigh the benefits. At least when looked at from rational, common sense, and even scientific risk and statistical analysis viewpoints.

There is even some new scientific information that says, getting additional booster shots might LOWER a person's natural immune system....
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...m-ema-says

the ONLY reason why someone may make a decision to get vaccinated is based on their own personal health profile and vulnerability, co mobilities etc

does NOTHING for getting and most importantly.. NOTHING for transmission

which has been the basis for the destruction of world economies and peoples lives

the low risk argument becomes MOOT if FORCED with NO ACCOUNTABILITY.

see if these people would assume responsibility and sign something if you have a reaction

>that is pretty darn safe especially compared to the vaccines which have over 100,000 cases of severe health conditions recorded, 37,000+ cases of people permanently disabled and over 20,000 DEATHS!.." (according to opervaers dot com)

Really? Explainig some problems with openvaers dot com data:
“reporting of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem."
Guess what? Vaccinated people are dying - just like unvaccinated. This is a fact of life (death is the only certain that we do have).
see "Investigation into source of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccine related deaths"
FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS,
EVEN IF IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER THE VACINE WAS THE CAUSE (...) A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.
And yes, there was this curious report in VAERS database, about a 39yo man vaccinated with Pfizer: "a third arm has grown out of my forehead and often slaps me when I’m trying to sleep.”
"The report did exist in VAERS database, but they've since remove it". Well, i can't imagine why it was removed.
https://www.wtkr.com/news/investigations...ted-deaths

(01-18-2022 05:08 AM)Vivekananda Wrote: [ -> ]>that is pretty darn safe especially compared to the vaccines which have over 100,000 cases of severe health conditions recorded, 37,000+ cases of people permanently disabled and over 20,000 DEATHS!.." (according to opervaers dot com)

Really? Explainig some problems with openvaers dot com data:
“reporting of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem."
Guess what? Vaccinated people are dying - just like unvaccinated. This is a fact of life (death is the only certain that we do have).
see "Investigation into source of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccine related deaths"
FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS,
EVEN IF IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER THE VACINE WAS THE CAUSE (...) A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.
And yes, there was this curious report in VAERS database, about a 39yo man vaccinated with Pfizer: "a third arm has grown out of my forehead and often slaps me when I’m trying to sleep.”
"The report did exist in VAERS database, but they've since remove it". Well, i can't imagine why it was removed.
https://www.wtkr.com/news/investigations...ted-deaths

And the EXACT same thing can, and has been said with the reported number of Covid Deaths by hospitals that get PAID by the Government for each person that dies (conflict of interest much?) from "Covid" in their hospital (at least they do here in the USA). There have been many examples of people dying in automobile accidents or from other ailments that also were tested for Covid POSTMORTEM that were included in the Covid mortality numbers....presumably just to get the Covid money from the government but of course this skews the numbers upwards and doesn't give an accurate number......Hmmmmm, just like you are saying the VAERS database does.

So should we use your "logic" and say not to use any of the reported statistic's on Covid deaths too?

Come on man, wake the heck up and open your eyes as to what is happening or stay the good obedient lemming (aka: as Lennin said, useful idiot) that blindly follows whatever cool-aid (reference to the Jim Jones massacre...Google it) the gov't propaganda wants you to believe.

The cracks in the facade are starting and I can't wait until that evil monster Dr. Death Fauci is brought up on charges for crimes against humanity and is found guilty and thrown in jail...(although in my opinion he should be executed for causing this whole fiasco and the millions of deaths (murders?) along with all the other co-conspirator's of his that funded Wuhan and did outlawed (in the USA) gain of function virus testing in an unsafe, unsecured foreign adversary's military lab)....Hell, he should be shot a second time for treason as well! And a third time for restricting the use of drugs like Ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies and other effective anti Covid medications (if proven effective, which I believe they will....but science will ultimately have the final say).

Hey you don't want to believe that over 100,000 people have issues with the experimental drugs, fine, good for you, just remember that if you or someone in your family does have a future complication you can't sue the pharma co's they are exempt from all lawsuits related to Covid vaccines. Yeah, that seems fair, right? No reason for these companies to say put a fund aside just in case people have future health issues because of these unnecessary, untested (in the long term) vaccines that don't actually do what traditional vaccines have done (protect you from getting the virus in the first place) but no worries the companies SAID they have YOUR best interests at heart, so it's all good.

Sleep well at night knowing they have your back. (yes, that is VERY sarcastic in case you didn't pick up on that).

Vivekananda

I understand why you want everyone vaccinated

to validate your decision

makes sense since you cannot UNVAX

so you are closed minded to the possibility

YOU made a bad judgement call

a person like you.. no offense will not change the perspective until you hit a wall of reality if something went wrong

which I hope never does

but people like you just don't have the ability to see outside your sphere of reality

its very strange. actually

Wait for late-Feb this year. That's when this pointless argument will become obsolete and useless.
Think healthy, be healthy.

A decision made from fear is always the wrong decision. -Tony Robbins

You can either be a victim or take control. If you take control you will discover that you are responsible for your own wellness. Lifestyle choices, living in the past-stress, willingly poisoning your body with drugs and alcohol all harm your immune system which limits the ability of your body to fight disease. Literally everything in all vaccines is classified as a poison. If vaccines do anything they spread disease.
The germ theory is unproven which is why it is called a theory. They have been trying hard to prove it for more than 100 years but have never done this in a lab setting. They want to prove it because it is a money maker. They can't tell you you're strong and can handle disease all on your own. Healthy independent people aren't recurring customers.
For some reason people want to believe that they are helpless and need to rely on BigP and Govt for their safety. BigP has a profit motive that they adhere to and make no mistake, that is their only priority. They could care less if you live, die or suffer. And do I need to say anything about Governments. If you think the government has your best interests in mind you don't have one. A mind that is.
Read Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals. It explains in great detail the procedure for converting a free market economy to a socialist and then a communist one. That is what this is about. A power grab and they are following the process to the letter.
But if it makes you feel better letting someone who doesn't care about your safety making personal decisions for you and your family then knock yourself out. Get as many kill shots as you want. They're trying to get the world population down to 500 Million so your cooperation is greatly appreciated.

Wolfman nailed it to the core, this scam of the pandemic stems from the unproven and flawed germ theory. Which can be discussed in lengths and to death. But until and unless the doctors, scientists etc wake up from their indoctrination, nothing anyone can say will change anything cause we are not the ones wearing a white coat.

This whole covid narrative will fell apart once the masses wake up to the fact that the PCR tests is bs, it does not and will not be able to detect some virus called sars-cov-2 which till this day has never been proven to even exists. I wish Kary Mullis is still alive today. (oh yeah go ahead and bow to your all-knowing paid for fact-checkers). Spike protein by the way, has also never been proven to be seen in any natural form.

Look up how the world came to this mess in january 2020 when a german virologist christian drosten claimed to have developed a protocol for using the pcr test for sars-cov-2, which tedros from WHO, within a day started recommending this pcr protocal to the rest of the world and here we are today. By the way, drosten would later admit that the protocol had been devised from a genetic code on a computer provided by china, not from an actual sample of a live virus codenamed sars-cov-2. Believe what you will.

People like vivekananda are a lost cause, no point even engaging with people like them cause they have to wake up from the mass hypnosis on their own. I have no problem with them taking the shots, take one shot each month for all I care. Belittle me all you want for not being part of your tyrannical world, you can get stuck in the web of lies for the rest of your life, for I'll keep living mine. And good luck if you still think all the bs going on has got anything to do with a virus or your health.