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(01-08-2022 10:50 PM)Tara Wrote: [ -> ]My prime minister (and a few other VIPs) is by law EXEMPT from ever being forced to take the vaccine.

If he needs to be protected from taking the vaccine, that tells me that the vaccine is more dangerous than the stinking virus.

This aside from the fact that I believe this virus was created deliberately for this great reset and the people who created it will not take this vaccine themselves, nor will they risk creating a virus that will wipe them out as well!

Another good one!

Just from a logical common-sense standpoint, do anyone really think trying to give the entire population on Earth ANY experimental drug/medication?

Even during the worst ever Black Death Plague that reportedly killed around half the population it ravaged through THERE WERE STILL PEOPLE THAT HAD NATURAL IMMUNITY AND SURVIVED IT!!!!!! And we (as a species) are here today because of that.

Do people really want to f@uck with nature that much and roll the dice that this experimental drug/medication is perfectly safe?
What if after X years anyone that took it becomes sterile?
What if after X year's down the road it causes high levels of cancer, or heart disease, or still births, or child deformities, or whatever.....Point is, WE JUST DON'T KNOW and yet our so called "leaders" are FORCING this on the world population, is that a well thought out decision? (Especially given the VERY Low mortality rates, >.01 among young age groups).

Where have personal freedoms gone?

What ever happened to "my body, my choice" by the left gone?

Why, since you can still get AND spread the virus AFTER being vaccinated does it matter if anyone gets the vaccine? (making it mandatory with this scientific FACT is just illogical, idiotic and should be criminal...as in crimes against humanity)

Why are drugs like ivermectin being blocked by people on their death beds who are asking for it???? (since it's as safe as aspirin with over 2 billion safe doses administered for other applications). Even if later it's proven to not work (which I doubt, given the evidence from India) there is still a possible benefit from the placebo effect in some patients who might have benefited and still be alive today.....even if that is 2% wouldn't that be worth the lives? Isn't it a doctor's duty to save lives? Isn't all the political propaganda about saving lives, even 1? But, NOPE, you can't take a safe drug, even on your death bed BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO KEEP THOSE MORTALITY NUMBERS HIGH !!!!! Again, if it turns out Ivermectin DOES work in treating Covid, will all those doctor's, politicians and judges that blocked it's use in hospitals be charged with murder? (I doubt it, but they should be).
In America, it's already been established that you can't sue over the Covid response (to protect the doc's and pharma co's) so why don't they give the drugs that the patients ask for? (there is no liability from the patients if they ultimatly die) It is again, illogical and doesn't make any sense.....unless there is another agenda at play? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, what could that be I wonder? (yeah, that is sarcastic).

Omicron has killed less than those who die from the average common cold (or even less than that) and yet we have to stay masked (proven useless), keep locked down (also useless) and get mandatory boosters or lose our jobs........on what planet does that make any sense?

Don't believe me? Google Omicron deaths in US and you will find the number to be in single digits since late December......IN A COUNTRY OF 339 MILLION......are you freaking kidding me? Is this a Joke? I think more people died in swimming pools in the winter this year than that number!

This is NO LONGER a pandemic that is killing people, maybe giving them cold like symptoms and just like the common cold killing a few frail elderly people BUT NOTHING MORE.

Stop the madness already!

Call your local politicians and tell them to cut the BS and stop the masks, shut downs, regulations, restrictions, school closures and mandates!

Vote OUT ALL these political HACKS, LIARS, MANIPULATORS, POWER HUNGRY TYRANTS and SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST TOTALITARIANS!

The people have the power, it's high time we All start using it!

VIVA La REVOLUCION!
VIVE La REVOLUTION!
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!

(01-09-2022 12:13 AM)mthomas Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Tara' pid='3377326' dateline='1641646222']
Just from a logical common-sense standpoint, do anyone really think trying to give the entire population on Earth ANY experimental drug/medication?

> Just from a logical common-sense standpoint, do anyone really think trying to give the entire population on Earth ANY experimental drug/medication?

Ok, mr. Spock. The answer is NO. But remember that the vaccines are tested at various stages and at a certain time in several volunteers, until reaching a sufficient number of people observed during a certain period.
Thereafter, the label "experimental" no longer applies to such drugs/medicines.

> THERE WERE STILL PEOPLE THAT HAD NATURAL IMMUNITY AND SURVIVED IT

We think (but are not certain) that covid has not brought these people any health problems, and since no one knows who has natural immunity or not, the vaccine is a MUCH better option than relying on an unknown number of people with "natural immunity".
The death toll is not reduced by these beliefs, but by the application of vaccines.

> What if after X years anyone that took it becomes sterile?

Or we may BELIEVE that this "natural immunity" is protecting people, when in reality it is not.
It's an interesting question that presents us with two sides, but you, for whatever reason, seem to want to highlight only ONE side of the question.
You talk about potential problems that could occur in a few years, but you choose to ignore that right now, the virus could be causing long-term problems.
Let me use your own words: Who can guarantee people with this "natural immunity" but infected by covid, will not become sterile, or develop high levels of cancer, or have heart diseases, or still births, or child deformities, or whatever? As you said, "WE JUST DON'T KNOW".
You are speaking from the worst possible point of view, in imaginary terms.
In Brazil we had more than 600000 deaths by covid.
I bet most of the deads - if not all - if they had any choice, they would rather choose to become sterile than die.
Another point to consider is the vaccination of children. They are bodies in development. If we don't know how covid can affect the development of their bodies, why are there people against giving vaccines to children? The news I read today says that Israel will start vaccinating 6-month-old children.
Who knows? Perhaps the Israeli scientists have less capacity than the anti-vaxes...

> What if after X year's down the road it causes high levels of cancer, or heart disease, or still births, or child deformities,

There is no real reason to suspect this. Drug and drug testing standards are now much stricter than, for example, when thalidomide was launched. Science evolves, and it is not possible to put aside these same suspicions in relation to what covid can cause. In fact, authorities say that the risk of contracting myocarditis because of covid is much greater than because of the very low percentage that can happen as a side effect of a vaccine.

>Where have personal freedoms gone?
>What ever happened to "my body, my choice" by the left gone?

What's that? It this a rule saying things like "My car, the way to drive it is my choice! I don't have to respect speed limits or traffic lights, and I can drive the wrong way."
All in the name of such "personal freedom". Is this your logic???

>Why, since you can still get AND spread the virus AFTER being vaccinated does it matter if anyone gets the vaccine?

Because the vaccine activates the immune system, and the possibility of getting seriously ill is much lower than without the vaccine, and reduces the time that you are spreading the virus.
Why wear a seat belt? You can still die in an accident despite wearing your seat belt! Why not drive in the opposite direction? You can still die in accidents despite obeying all the rules! Why obey them?
After two doses and an extra booster, can I still get the virus?
Of course! Just as there are people with the so-called "natural immunity" that protects them (in a very low number), there are people who are not protected either by immunity or by the vaccine - which does not have perfect action in 100% of cases, as well as seat belts.
A low forcing the use of a seat belt is what? Illogical? Idiotic? Must be criminal... as in crimes against humanity???

>Why are drugs like ivermectin being blocked by people on their death beds who are asking for it????
>"Even if later it's proven to not work (which I doubt, given the evidence from India)"

"Evidence" from India, and even from Brazil, where it was some time ago touted as a "solution", is not working.
Ivermectin advocates talk about vaccine side effects, but do they say anything about ivermectin side effects?
The most serious effects are:
- Pain in your neck and back
- Serious eye problems
- redness
- bleeding
- swelling
- pain
- loss of vision
- Shortness of breath
- Inability to control urination
- Inability to control bowel movements
- Trouble standing or walking
- Confusion
- Extreme tiredness
- Extreme drowsiness
- Seizures
- Coma
- Low blood pressure, especially when you get up after sitting or lying down
- lightheadedness
- dizziness
- fainting
- Severe skin reactions:
- severe rash
- redness
- blistering skin
- peeling skin
- Liver damage. Symptoms can include:
- tiredness
- nausea
- vomiting
- loss of appetite
- pain on the right side of your stomach
- dark urine
- yellowing of your skin or the whites of your eyes
Finally, does anyone know why the manufacturers of ivermectin (and chloroquine, and other "ins") don't include their use against covid in the drug's package insert? Do this and the "little pharma" maker of ivermectin could become a "big pharma".
If you want to use the placebo effect, give them orange juice and tell the patient that the juice contains a new form of ivermectin, and tell them that the juice is to mask the taste.

>Isn't it a doctor's duty to save lives?

Yes. But they say the difference between a doctor and God is that God doesn't try to be a doctor. In the despair of the crisis, they look for a solution - but, at the same time, some despair and start to support the use of effective remedies, that they really DO NOT KNOW how interact with covid.
There is a fine line between fulfilling one's duty to save lives, and risking losing a patient through a desperate measure.
THIS can make drugs such as chloroquine and ivermectin agains covid to be considered EXPERIMENTAL, as they do not meet the standards of clinical research.
It's an act of desperation. Here in Brazil we had tests a scandalous experiment done with hydroxychloroquine, without patient consent.
Until the advent of vaccines, there was no other remedy that worked.
Even the very well known aspirin can be dangerous if the person suffers from dengue.

> NOPE, you can't take a safe drug

It is not safe as it has side effects.

>Isn't all the political propaganda about saving lives, even 1?

Saving 1 life? Okay! Losing lives from side effects? Absolutely not ok!

> YOU HAVE TO KEEP THOSE MORTALITY NUMBERS HIGH

As far as I can say, this is a very ridiculous affirmation. You are making an accusation, it's your duty to bring proofs that "the system" (or whatever) is interested in keep the mortality numbers high.
Now is my time to ask: if it turns out Ivermectin DOES NOT work in treating Covid, will all these doctors advocating its use, be prosecuted for deaths caused by its side effects?

> Omicron has killed less than those who die from the average common cold (or even less than that) and yet we have to stay masked (proven useless)

Omicron is highly contagious and there ARE people dying from it, so we have to use masks. If we can sabe "EVEN 1" life, isn't it enough?

>"to stay masked (proven useless)"

It is not "proven useless". Sorry, but it's a false affirmation.

>Don't believe me? Google Omicron deaths in US and you will find the number to be in single digits since late December.

Wow. When I use Google to tell antivaxes that they are wrong, usually thay say that the "Big G" is not reliable. It seems that Big G is only reliable when it show us something that agrees with what we think.

>IN A COUNTRY OF 339 MILLION......are you freaking kidding me? Is this a Joke?

Well, now it's my turn to ask: are you freaking kidding us? Is this a joke? Despite the antivaxes, how can you ignorte that a very expressive portion of the population was vaccinated against covid? How can you ignore that a low number of cases may well be happening BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE!
It is no longer about logic, but pure and simple attachment to arguments where logic has been abandoned.

>Vote OUT ALL these political HACKS, LIARS, MANIPULATORS, POWER HUNGRY TYRANTS and SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST TOTALITARIANS!

Well, the problem is no longer scientific and becomes political. For the answer of science works, but those who want to seize power don't care about science and only about power. What position are you applying for, mthomas?

Antivaxes on social media - facts about Monica Calazans, nurse, first vaccinated in Brazil.

I shortened the translation, to bring only the curious (sometimes fun) facts.
Source (in Portuguese):
https://noticias.uol.com.br/saude/ultima...brasil.htm

'They told me I had died': the stories of the first vaccinated against covid in Brazil.
(...)
The nurse guarantees that she had no idea that she would be the first Brazilian vaccinated against covid-19.
"Do you really think that if I knew I was going to appear on national and international television, I wouldn't make myself a little more, put on a lipstick, touch up my makeup and change clothes?", she jokes.
As soon as she received the vaccine in her arm, Calazans says she felt relieved and victorious.
"In that moment, I understood that the kick-off was given to control such a terrible and overwhelming disease.
We finally had a solution to protect people", she understands.
"I lifted and clenched my fist because I felt like it was a winning moment," she adds.
A year has passed since that day, the health professional understands that her choice as the first Brazilian to receive the immunizer was surrounded by meanings.
"I am a woman, a single mother, black, a nurse and I have been working in the SUS [Unified Health System] since 1985.
In a way, I represent the strength, engagement and commitment of many people", she says.
(...)
There was a great concern of people if there could be an adverse reaction or if I was feeling bad", she says.
It was precisely at that moment that fake news about her health status began to appear on messaging apps and social networks.
"I was told that I had died after the vaccine," she says.
"I even told my mother that I was afraid to walk down the street and people would hit me with a stick, thinking I was a ghost", she recalls.
From that period, Calazans remembers a specific story that involved an app driver.
"I was wearing a mask and dressed in white, with my work clothes.
The driver realized that I am a health professional and commented:
' You know that woman who took the vaccine against covid? Poor thing, she's in really bad shape, hospitalized and all.
Why was she doing this? She shouldn't have taken it'", he reports.
The nurse says that she just listened to the whole story until she reached her destination.
"As I got out of the car, I quickly took off my mask and said, 'You know the first vaccinated woman you say is sick?
It's me!'" she reports. "He froze, he didn't know how to react", he adds.
Calazans knows that greater recognition and promotion as a public figure has also brought with it many responsibilities.
"Since that day, I have to be very careful with what I say and what I post on social media. I have to bring information and make people aware of the importance of vaccination to save lives", he highlights.

Experiences, learnings and future projects;

When asked by the BBC News Brasil report about the story that most marked her trajectory since the beginning of the pandemic, Calazans brings the answer on the tip of her tongue.
"I can spend hours counting cases and more cases, but the first one that comes to my mind happened on December 31, 2020", she highlights.
"I was at the São Mateus Emergency Department when I saw a 68-year-old man who had been diagnosed with covid and needed to be hospitalized. He would be transferred to Parelheiros, in the South Zone, on the other side of the city."
"I had to put him in the ambulance and tell the son that he couldn't go with him. Imagine, separating a family just at the turn of the year, a date that we want to celebrate and be close to the ones we love."
The nurse recalls that, in the rush of care, she ended up exchanging telephone contacts with the patient's son.
"To my surprise, I received a message on the 17th of January (date she was vaccinated). The son wrote to me that he was very happy to know that the first person vaccinated had taken care of his father and thanked her as the man had recovered after spending five days in the hospital"
Although one story or another is marked in his memory, Calazans understands that the experience of dealing directly with the biggest pandemic of the century brought a series of lessons.
"I learned that you need to have more empathy and always put yourself in the other person's shoes", he says. "It is necessary to take good care of everyone, because one day it will be me, or someone in my family, who will need the same care."

(01-07-2022 08:34 AM)mthomas Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunately Vivekananda, all the info you posted is simply hearsay and based on anecdotal evidence.

Do not blame me. What you say about the use of ivermectin also has no solid scientific basis.
The Brazilian government's information system suffered a hacker attack that damaged information about new cases of covid, and the death toll.
Thus, the drop in the number of cases was significant due to vaccination, but it became disconnected from reality - by a hacker attack that reduced the numbers much to the taste of our current and denialist president.
Coincidence? Perhaps...

As for India, perhaps the headline below is enough to make you reflect a bit:
"As Covid-19 Devastates India, Deaths Go Undercounted"
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/world...eaths.html

" Yet experts, backed by reports from journalists, insist that India’s crisis is far bigger than even those numbers suggest. The real caseload could be ten or even 30 times higher (see chart), and the number of deaths much more, too. Could India’s official statistics really be so drastically understating the scale of the pandemic?"
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-...and-deaths

But you know, this is what was being considered in april, 2021. I think that you prefer to ignore this. So, what about some bad news from January, 2022?

"COVID-19 may have killed nearly 3 million in India, far more than official counts show"

New analysis bolsters idea that country’s seemingly low death rate was misleading
https://www.science.org/content/article/...ounts-show

The African advantage:
"The reasons for this are not yet clear. Several factors have been suggested as potentially influencing the low burden of Covid-19 illness. These include age demographics, lack of long-term care facilities, potential cross-protection from previous exposure to circulating coronaviruses, limitations of SARS-CoV-2 testing which may have resulted in an undercounting of deaths, and effective government public health responses."
https://qz.com/africa/2049407/why-has-co...in-africa/
Coronavirus in Africa: Five reasons why Covid-19 has been less deadly than elsewhere
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54418613

"People need to get vaccinated more than ever, or it will never end."
"- Once again, this was said by a doctor? REALLY????? This statement is NOT based on science at all and is NOT true.

Are you a doctor that was able to proof ivermectin efficiency?
You talk a lot about "evidences" that ivermectine works agains covid.
You talk about number in India and Africa. Really? If you use this criter, just examine the drop of deaths and new cases in Brazil. More vacination equal less problems.

"But if they don't get vaccinated there, the virus will continue to proliferate and mutate." - Another statement that is NOT based on science is UNTRUE!

Okay, so Omicron and new variants are appearing from where?

"ANYONE, vaccinated or NOT, can STILL get Covid as per the SCIENCE!!!"

Science also claims that vaccines are not 100% effective, but it is still a far superior solution compared to using ivermectin - a drug that, despite its beliefs, has numerous side effects.
What happens in practice is that despite any problem of effectiveness, ICUs in Brazil are getting crowded again by unvaccinated people - the occupancy of ICUs by unvaccinated people is around 80%.

"As I've been saying all along, you should be FREE to get, OR NOT GET the vaccination/boosters but forcing/mandating them is abusive, insane, criminal and a crime against humanity."

I think advertising AGAINST the use of vaccines is unscientific, abusive, criminal and a crime against humanity.

>"(Given their experimental nature,"
It's no longer experimental

>" untested long term future side-effects, unnecessary risk based on Covid fatalities regarding certain younger age groups,"

I'd rather take the risk than face the long-term side effects of the diseases brought on by covid. Have you read about "long covid" problems?

> other viable medical options [Ivermectin, monoclonal, etc.]
Only now there are some options appearing (thank you, Pfizer's "big pharma". None of them is ivermectin-based. Ivermectin do have side effects.

> and potential immediate side-effects right after getting the shots [heart issues, permanently disabled, death, etc.).

Statistically irrelevant effects. Why on earth does someone just consider the side effects of the vaccine, and ignore the side effects of ivermectin?

mthomas wrote:

(Given their experimental nature, untested long term future side-effects, unnecessary risk based on Covid fatalities regarding certain younger age groups, other viable medical options [Ivermectin, monoclonal, etc.] and potential immediate side-effects right after getting the shots [heart issues, permanently disabled, death, etc.).


Okay, just for the sake of discussion I'll ignore the fact that vaccines are NOT experimental, and consider this monoclonal "viable alternative":

- Monoclonal drugs ARE experimental.
- we don't know if there are untested long term future side-effects
- there ARE potential immediate side-effects when that may occur during this intravenous injection, including (but not limited to):
throat irritation, swelling in your face or throat;
dizziness, a light-headed feeling (like you might pass out);
chest pain, wheezing, shortness of breath;
fever, chills, sweating, nausea, flushing (sudden warmth, redness, or tingly feeling);
fast or slow heartbeats, headache, pounding in your neck or ears;
weakness, tiredness;
rash, itching;
muscle pain.

Now you can take it out of your list of viable alternatives. Sorry. But think about incluing Paxlovid (created by the bad guys at Pfizer) in your list. Or not - this is another experimental drug.

I came here to face-palm, was not disappointed.

Vivekananda, just to level the playfield here once again.....
I am NOT arguing against the use of vaccines IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED TO WANT TO TAKE THEM.
I AM arguing against the FORCED VACCINE MANDATES that are being implemented by certain Governments around the world. (which includes the use of mandatory vaccine passports, job firings, Covid concentration camps and/or forced home confinements).

So if you want to be a lab rat and take an experimental and untested (in the long term) set of drugs, hey more power to you. I personally don't care if you take a booster shot every month along with a hit of heroin if you want to, go for it. But I should have the same right to NOT be forced to take the jab and/or boosters (or heroin for that matter) if I don't want to.

It's really that simple...especially given the statistics for this virus. (meaning that certain age groups have less than 0.01% chance of dying from it).

Also, to clarify my comment, "my body, my choice" was a slogan of the Feminist movement in the USA to protest FOR abortions. I find it ironic, that this same group is advocating for the forced vaccination of people. It doesn't make any logical sense and they are all hypocrites for saying it's their body in once instance and not the other. (PS - In my opinion, the "my body my choice", ISN'T a valid point as the baby inside of the woman is ALSO a LIFE and therefore it's no longer just "my body" anymore.....but that's a whole another thread/debate).

Also interesting that the CDC CHANGED the definition of "vaccination" to go from immunizing a person from EVER getting a certain disease to now just getting medication to ENHANCE one's own immune system. Of course this NEEDED to be done once people realized the Covid "vaccines" didn't really protect anyone from actually getting the virus or spreading it (once infected). SO change the definition to fit the "science"....pretty sure that's NOT how it's supposed to work! (yes, that was sarcastic)

And YES, this is still an experimental drug as it was rushed through all the FDA safety procedures and protocols (that normally take years) and even more important we don't have the benefit of actual long term, time tests...Note: there have been many drugs even FDA approved ones' that after being administered (sometimes for YEARS) have been recalled and taken off the market due to unhealthy side effects. Think about that! and now think about rolling this out to every person on Earth...again, it doesn't make ANY COMMON SENSE to put the entire population of the planet at risk over a virus that has a less than 0.01% overall death rate.....If this were the black plague, I'd say there would be a good argument for doing it, but with Covid, it's literally an INSANE risk to be taking for so little benefit...and yet NO ONE even takes about this risk????? Nor about how mandating this jab is (for US citizens at least) UNCONSTITUTIONAL and should be a crime if forced upon a person or if services are withheld because of it or if someone loses their job, etc.

Regarding Ivermectin, it's been administered over 4 billion times in the past 30 years with ONLY 28 cases in ALL of that time of serious neurological adverse conditions recorded ...... that is pretty darn safe especially compared to the vaccines which have over 100,000 cases of severe health conditions recorded, 37,000+ cases of people permanently disabled and over 20,000 DEATHS!...(see the openvaers. com/ covid-data website to get actual numbers/statistics, see post #78 for link to website).
They tried to say the same BS here (that Ivermectin had very bad side effects, even life threatening) when people were taking the Ivermectin in horse medications but it ALL turned out to be very mild issues that NO ONE died from and only a couple were hospitalized and then sent home okay.....it is a VERY SAFE DRUG which HAS had over 30 years of testing with extremely limited side effects and usually only when given the wrong dosage. (it's even been safely given to pregnant women, children and infants).
Also, India has over 4x's the number of people compared to the USA and has only about half the number of deaths recorded from Covid,.....the ONLY thing different between the two, is India is administering Ivermectin and an antibiotic (not sure of the name) as prophylactics and treatments once infected and it seems to be working VERY effectively in the Indian states that are using the drugs.

So again the question here is WHY is there this HUGE movement by pharms, doctors, politicians, etc. to STOP this drug from being given to those people on their death beds? WTF?
Why hasn't a study been done on a large scale in this country giving this drug to old people, the most effected by Covid and see if it works? (especially given the VERY limited and MILD side effects?)
What is the freaking harm if these people agreed to it, just like they agree to getting the jab/booster?

And back to my last question in a previous post....what will be the penalty for those in power if it turns out that ivermectin WAS a valid treatment for Covid?

What is the penalty for Dr. Death Fauci and all the other's involved when it's proven (yes, IF it's proven) he financed the Wuhan lab to do gain of function lab testing and they created this entire fiasco in the first place?

So to end here, you can take/get all the jabs/boosters you want...enjoy them, buy your own gold plated syringes, have booster shot parties, jab each other every other day, do what you want but allow me to NOT get them if I don't want to (and I don't!) and everything will be good....Life will go on and we can get back to work and back to normal already!

These are the new numbers (not surprisingly they increased), showing the adverse effects from getting the Covid Shots and Boosters....
Website here: https://openvaers.com/covid-data

I'm not saying you shouldn't get them, but you DO have a right to know that they could have life threatening side effects.

Some cracks in the wall.....(and this from a liberal news source)
Ex head of UK vaccine taskforce, Dr. Clive Dix calls for end to mass vaccinations and a return to normal, treating any future Covid just like the regular flu!

Let's see how long this video stays up on Facebook or if they choose to censor/ban it...

Coronaviruses are a group of viruses, well known to the science sins early 60'is. So genetic code of the coronaviruses is well investigated and known. The problem with Covid-19 is that this variation of Coronaviruses has developed spikes that attack the respiratory system in your body, and destroy the covers of your lung cells. You can go with a virus in your body without any symptoms for about 10 to 14 days destroying your lungs. And when you get the first symptoms that something is very wrong, maybe it is too lait.

The biggest problem with the statistics of the number of dead people from this pandemic is to know how many people are died from the Covid-19 and how many people are died WITH Covid-19. It is very difficult to get the right numbers without abductions.

How to get rid of this pandemic? It is a just a numbers game. Let us scale down this pandemic to one country, any country. If you have a 70% of this country's citizens vaccinated, then you have only 30% left no vaccinated who can infect others. If you have 90% vaccinated, you have only 10% left, and so on. That means that the virus has fewer people to mutate on and will die out. So simple is that.