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(09-04-2022 07:51 PM)California Kid Wrote: [ -> ]lala, you never failed this forum or anyone on the forum. you live up to the name supermod in my opinion

but one thing you do fail in is understanding other peoples points and i am not convinced it's a failure to understand. i think it's more of a failure to be negative toward the forum in any way.

the people who talked about group buys have a valid point yet you even said your self you don't understand the problem. well there really isn't any other way to communicate it any better for people to understand. but just because people don't understand it possibly, doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

khawk went to extreme but there is truth in everything. even i noticed the decline of activity. these stats don't mean much when the forum was run in a way to increase spam post counts and thread bumps. you guys literally allowed users to do this which made the forum less useful and spammy. that's just a fact and these stats don't tell that story.

now i am very good at spotting things and piecing things together. it's why i can sniff out a smapper and scammer from a mile off. there is a hidden agenda going on right now and it started about a year ago. even one of my posts never got approved when i shed light on something similar to this hidden agenda.

i understand that this is a business and a business is to make money but let's not hide the fact that this is an attempt to make more. all the benefits of this other forum are secondary just like we can't hide the negative consequences this second forum will have on this one. it's why scammers are allowed to start bso threads even against the rules sometimes and it's why group buys cost $100. it's why people who have paid to this forum get extra hidden privlidges and allowed to get away with a little more than a free user or leecher.

the forum, the admin, the mods have never addressed these issues on this forum. if they have, i certainly never saw it. and these are hidden issues not to be talked about. it's just how it is and how the forum is being run and members....especially high contributor members have no say.

khawk went to an extreme to make a point. i don't like promoting extreme explanations myself but i understand it. he loves bbhf or use to just like me and others who have contributed and passionate about bbhf and what it stood for and the potential it could be. can't really blame us for that. but please don't try to discredit what we say because there IS truth to it. it's just not going to be acknowledged by you or omni or the admin. if it hasn't yet, it never will be

you have some passionate users here on the forum and all we want to see is that bbhf survives and stops spiraling in a downward trend with more and more spammy posts and threads and people breaking rules and getting away with it. if that can't happen, then bbhf is already dead because it's already declining in quality and has been for the last 5 years. this is from my personal observation that i don't need stats for. we all know it's true whether we admit it or not. none of us are stupid here :) it's still one of the best forums but it wont be in another 5 years if it continues down this road....and especially if hidden agendas continue. making money in a business is one thing but if done wrong, it can lead to desperation and greed and those two things will make things fail in the long run slowly and gradually.....little by little progressively over time....small negative changes will occur over time and small enough to where most people wont even notice right away.

it's not my place to tell people how to run this forum but it IS my place and khawk's place and other people's place who care about this forum to try and bring up issues to think about. this forum is absolutely NOTHING without it's members. if it wasn't for the members, the forum would be dead. the most highly valuable members are the ones NOT running group buys and bso's. the people running those have one thing in mind and one thing only....to make money. they could care less about the forum(with some exceptions). they aren't the true members of this forum. they don't create threads with intelligent conversations and they aren't the members sharing in the wso section or the vip downloads section unless it's sometimes to promote their bso against the rules sometimes(with exceptions ofcourse). but i see time and time again that it's THOSE people who are given a little more special treatment.

even i had to stop reporting people. i don't help the forum by not reporting but i have no choice when certain people are given special treatment. and so less reporting is going to also bring down the quality of the forum.

but this is EXACTLY why i am supporting this other project and bbhf admin. i'm hoping i will like this new forum so i can finally disappear from this forum which is declining in quality that nobody seems to care to fix. even if i don't like the new forum. it's ok. i still support the forums and the bbhf admin for a great job he did for years. nothing is going to ever be perfect and certainly no decision/choice will be perfect for EVERYONE. it's just impossible to please everyone especially if the forum wants to get paid for it's useful service. i can say this. the price was never unfair to be vip here and not an unfair price for the new forum either. it seems to be very fair and reasonable for anyone who wants to support this forum or the other forum.

i am writing all this to support what khawk said so he doesn't feel alone in what he said. like i said, there is truth in everything. we can't discredit it or we are ignoring the problems. how can we be the best we can be if we ignore the problems? we state the problems as members because we care. it's not to down bbhf and the forum we came to love for whatever reason why we were here and how we choose to use the forum.

lastly, to touch on what he said about group buys. there IS a problem with them and if we are going to be transferring the group buys over to the new forum, then we are transfering the problems along with the group buys. and that to me is a scary thought to start a new forum that way. but like i said, it's not my place to tell people how to run their own forum and business. only to offer suggestions and insight that members who care about the forum have a hard time ignoring.

anyway, you never failed this forum lala. under all the forum conditions, you have obviously always tried your best. you care about this forum AND the members and it clearly shows. you have a heart and your empathetic....but you do tend to ignore certain problems which makes people feel discredited a little. i am actually surprised you lasted this long here lala because most others with your qualities woulda been gone a long time ago. you have always put in a lot of work here and put up with a lot of b.s.. which could lead to major burnout.

100% Agree with everything you wrote. Thanks for explaining what I mean...
(Pumped up on strong pain meds these days, maybe that's why I can't seem to explain anything without exaggeration..)

I may be in the minority, but I don't like the color of the new site....

Red on white everywhere is obnoxious, imo.

I think an attractive plate makes for a tastier dinner - bbhf is good, but not the current mvp.

My opinion, if I am allowed to express my views here.

Thanks.

I may be in the minority, but I don't like the color of the new site....

Red on white everywhere is obnoxious, imo.

I think an attractive plate makes for a tastier dinner - bbhf is good, but not the current mvp.

My opinion, if I am allowed to express my views here.

Thanks.

Hi Lala, i am interested. Waiting for payment link. Thanks.

please send payment link, thanks!

(08-30-2022 08:07 PM)lala Wrote: [ -> ]

I am speaking on behalf of Admin, we all know that BBHF was the 1st of the only site that offer a one-time payment for lifetime VIP and some others did follow.

ETH miner was the 1st and it cost $500 that even mods/supermods are no exemption. (Yes i paid for my access while Omni Potens(other mod) had no access since he cannot afford it). Most members cannot afford it, only few of us (If your one of those, thank you). Those who have an ETH miner badge will be given a free MVP access and their ETH miner badge will retain on the MVP site with has the access on the same ETH section hidden on BBHF and it was been moved now on the MVP site called moneyvipprogram.com

This is NOT MANDATORY and we are NOT forcing anyone to pay for MVP access but if you wanna support Admin Mikhael on the new mvp site.
The first 100 VIP members will be given a fixed price cost of $60.
This offer are ONLY for BBHF VIP members.
Non VIP members no matter how much they pay wont be able to access the MVP site. The MVP site is quite new but i see more progress of it as days goes by.

Why VIP members are being charged for "MVP Access"?
--> Server cost monthly is $220
--> Dedicated IP cost monthly is $50
--> Internet Subscription cost mothly is $80 at around 300 mbps

This is the Project site of Admin that will aim to focus on:
--> money making related thread(s)
--> business idea(s)
--> useful topic
--> important thread by MVP users can be backup and transferred.
--> Top VIP sharer that stopped sharing on BBHF are active on that site because link(s) are on private mode.
--> spam free
--> Sharing of Watermarked and Non-Watermarked can be found on MVP LOOT
--> Admin will worked on backing up data
(external 500 TB, 2 pieces are bought and ready)
--> 254 + Sellers Data moved
(Seller who have BSO, please contact me so you can get your Seller Badge, you can transfer your BSO if your BSO was not yet transferred on the mvp site)
--> All BSO sellers will be given a fresh start with their BSO (you may or you may not include the old review)
I will grant you "Verified Seller Badge"


--> All GB Sellers will be allowed to transfer their GB threads on the new section
--> MVP site has no moderation
--> Subscribe to 1 specific thread is enabled.
--> Subscribe to multi thread is enabled.
--> Users browsing on thread is enabled.
--> Subscribe to entire forum is enabled.
--> Searching for 3 letters such as SEO , CPA, PLR, etc are been resolved.


Would it be possible that VIP members who are loyal to BBHF and still continued to shares upto this time will be given a free MVP access?
--> To be fair BBHF give free VIP member before but those who had been given a free VIP member had stopped sharing. So how sure this wont happen again? to solve that you will be given a "VIP BADGE", not MVP badge.
If you manage to transfer all your important data threads on the MVP site and continued to be useful members on MVP site then your MVP badge will retain. Monthly checking will be done, if you fail to share important things on the MVP site then your MVP badge will revert back to VIP badge.

All VIP members will be given a same VIP badge on the MVP site but this will happen next year but only VIP data can be viewed.
MVP data , MVP section are only accessible on MVP members.

Do NOT be confused as BBHF will still remain.
But if you want to enjoy a much better features then try the MVP Access.

By the way condolece to Admin and to the family if your not aware, his father died 2 days ago but still i can see how dedicate he was. There are much more bigger plan coming ahead on the mvp site.

--> rep begging is not allowed.
--> rep will be limited on monthly basis.

Plan was if you have 100 rep+ then if 1 rep is 1 usd, then you can cash out 100 USD, that was part of the incoming plan to pay back on those active top vip sharer who never stopped sharing. This was not implemented on the BBHF due to many abuse on rep already, but on the new MVP site the plan was already set in motion but for now we have to focus first on important and useful data that are being moved slowly but surely.

And one more thing, according to Admin Mikhael all top vip sharers can not linked mvp shared on BBHF site alone just do not post the entire URL link so it wont be reported, Only mention the tid (thread id).

This post will be open for improvement or changes, actually i am in a hurry but there are still lot of things to mention that i think i forgot.

You may post on this thread if you have question,
your send me a pm on private or submit a support thread.
Thanks and God Bless. Again condolence to Admin and to the family.

Regards,
Lala

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First 100 will be listed here for $60:
1) alondra (Eth Miner)
2) schnapii (Eth Miner)
3) pripevo4ka (Eth Miner)
4) Akaski (Eth Miner)
5) Panc******** (Eth Miner) (wanted his name not posted, he will use different name on mvp site)
6) BbHf (Eth Miner)
7) HighSkilledExploiter (Eth Miner)
8) Lenibeth (Eth Miner)
9) King Of Marketing (Eth Miner)
10) Omni Knoweth (Eth Miner)
11) Mark Zucherberg (Eth Miner)
12) MoneyStar (Eth Miner)
13) Satoshi Nakamoto (Eth Miner)
14) UpdatedAlways (Eth Miner)
15) Seo Expert (Eth Miner)
16) Fely L. (mvp access paid)
17) Creat****** (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
18) Artu*** (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted) and will use different username
19) Jasmine Kate (mvp access paid)
20) Seofreak (mvp access paid)
21) Gree*** ***** (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
22) MirrorMan (mvp access paid)
23) NullC******* *** (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
24) dimson (mvp access paid)
25) EcomCoin
26) Chito
27) Engr **** (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
28) godheir
29) d********en (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted) and already use different username
30) Nitang
31) ch******** (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted) and already use different username
32) bl****w (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted) and already use different username
33) crea*******3 (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
34) sm*****5 (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
35) z****c (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
36) c***t (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
37) fritz (mvp access paid)
38) Hun (mvp access paid)
39) California Kid (mvp access paid)
40) harrypotter (mvp access paid)
41) omarsabah (mvp access paid)
42) Eng* J*** (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
43) D****i (mvp access paid) (does not want username posted)
44)
45)
46)
47)

...
100)

IMPORTANT:
Anyone caught sharing their MVP login on other members will revoke their MVP Login access.

I can censor the names to those who do not want their names included. You may use your old username or different username

After 100 spots are taken it will increase to $100

NOT MANDATORY if you only CARE and WISH to experience a better BBHF :)

UPDATE:
GB is NOT ALLOWED on MVP SITE and will NEVER BE ALLOWED!

If every one or majority does not want "GB" (group buy) on MVP site, then lets remove it for forever. There is no way any share thread will be deleted unless the creator or developer are part of the MVP site or it was a BSO. They had to report the exact thread ID so their product will be deleted.

I hope everyone is happy now :)
This mean that the spirit of "sharing is caring" will once again live on.

BBHF will be the only site that will be allowed to run GB
while MVP site will NEVER be allowed to run any GB so that shares from the MVP site will be unstoppable.
Imagine MVP site containing all access to all other forum and paid forum in which watermark and non watermark courses and even courses that do not use default BBHF password but uses other password will also be allowed.
Sounds good also with me :)

Thank you again @everyone.


Regards,
Lala

To be honest, i havent seen useful stuff ... for a good while.
The forum has been taken over by GB and BSOs. And kind of discouraged me from participating more.

Will i have access to the entire MVP forum for those $60?

Thx

I have a problem with GB's...

1) What if all the best stuff available will become a GB? That means we would have to pay extra for everything we'd like and we can't even ask for it since the products in a GB are protected.

2) An example. GB's sellers now ask for $50 with 20 spots for a $1100 course. When these spots are filled, the buyers get their product. But what I see happening, is that the GB stays active and that the GB seller, keeps asking for the same amount, sometimes even higher!
This in combo with my point nr1, what makes that we can't even ask for the product.

3) You can't even argue or say anything in a GB thread or we'll get banned (says the GB seller).
That's like selling something at the apple store and if it's broken or you don't agree with something you get kicked out of the store.

If no GB, send me the payment details Lala. Thanks

(09-06-2022 01:09 AM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]If no GB, send me the payment details Lala. Thanks

It is official. There will be NO GB on MVP site.
Let the spirit of sharing on MVP site to be unstoppable. Thanks.
Share without the worry your share thread being deleted.
Talk like there is no moderation. Communication should be easier. There are lot of features that are added on MVP site that are not found on BBHF, example the ability to "subcribe your thread" or subscribe to specific or multiple thread, or even to entire forum category section. Thanks.

Regards,
Lala

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(09-06-2022 01:03 AM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]I have a problem with GB's...

There will be NO GB on MVP site.
It was been made official. If the gb you mean is the gb here on BBHF, no worry i can help you with that. Just state the bbhf gb thread, gb starter and what is the problem? Thanks.

(09-06-2022 01:03 AM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]1) What if all the best stuff available will become a GB? That means we would have to pay extra for everything we'd like and we can't even ask for it since the products in a GB are protected.

As i mention, there will be NO GB on MVP site.
This means there is nothing to pay for extra. MVP site will be a much better version of BBHF that has no GB, it wont and will never be allowed. Thanks.

(09-06-2022 01:03 AM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]2) An example. GB's sellers now ask for $50 with 20 spots for a $1100 course. When these spots are filled, the buyers get their product. But what I see happening, is that the GB stays active and that the GB seller, keeps asking for the same amount, sometimes even higher!
This in combo with my point nr1, what makes that we can't even ask for the product.

Almost all GB sellers are doing that, especially if the GB was in demand and the gb seller manage to keep it secure that was not been leaked, even old GB is still profiting even up to this date, as long as there is a potential buyer, they are still earning with it, and we are not against with that, as long as they will deliver what the GB buyer paid for, that is what matter most.

(09-06-2022 01:03 AM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]3) You can't even argue or say anything in a GB thread or we'll get banned (says the GB seller).
That's like selling something at the apple store and if it's broken or you don't agree with something you get kicked out of the store.

Who told you that? If your a buyer and you paid for his GB, you have 100% right to complain. What we do not allow is spamming and complaining on the wrong GB thread. In a case the Gb seller closed his gb thread so that gb buyers cannot complain, there is a section that exist:

https://bestblackhatforum.com/Forum-GB-D...Complaints

your complaint thread will NEVER be deleted not unless your problem was been solved. you can bump and bump that complaint thread of yours so it will get more views and notice among others. If the GB seller continue to ignore that complaint thread then it means others will see it and will be hesitant to join gb from the user that is being complained. that is why i always told all GB sellers to handle their GB buyers properly to avoid any complaints.

But then again let me remind this. that was for BBHF GB.

ON MVP site, it is official there will be no GB. Thanks.

Regards,
Lala

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(09-06-2022 12:51 AM)aKinaKus Wrote: [ -> ]To be honest, i havent seen useful stuff ... for a good while.
The forum has been taken over by GB and BSOs. And kind of discouraged me from participating more.

Will i have access to the entire MVP forum for those $60?

Thx

Yes aKinaKus, you will get to access the entire section.
You might see some familiar faces that has the same feelings of yours that are discouraged to share here on BBHF but are already more active on MVP site.
And if your looking for useful stuff, there are fresh useful courses, even expensive ones , or purchased by members itself being shared on the MVP site already. Considering it was still new but i see lot of useful stuff already, it wont stop there, the ripping done by Admin will again be implemented just like he did before. For now he was still busy with the transfer of BBHF data to MVP site, as soon as it is close to full completion a lot of exciting things are about to happen. Many plans are already set in motion.

Regards,
Lala