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Hi Lala, i am interested.
(09-02-2022 04:56 PM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]I'd rather see BBHF growing, reshaping itself, see what can be done with VIP's here etc , than starting a new website to bring in the new cash? You'd already save $350 monthly.
It concerns me aswell that all effort will be put in MVIP and BBHF will die a slowly dead... Why would anyone still put something on here?

BBHF wont die and will still continue to grow as long as we have members that truly care and value this forum, and as long as Admin can afford to pay the hosting fee, it will still be up and running. Many active sharer are still here on BBHF.

(09-02-2022 04:56 PM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone still put something on here?
Not all can afford to access mvp and some of them are top sharer too on this site. We have plenty of sharer here who are still here and continued to share even up to this date. Some of the sharer continued to share for exposure/fame/ or advertisement or traffic they get on public thru guest and registered member here that comprised the bigger portion of group.

(09-02-2022 04:56 PM)McMusq Wrote: [ -> ]I understand why, but would prefer to just see 'Hey guys, we need fresh cash to keep BBHF running and want a bit more appreciation for our effort and work" instead of starting MVIP.

The creation of new site called "moneyvipprogram.com" is important because of the following:

1) If BBHF is attack such as DDOS or Hack and been offline for days, weeks, then MVP are there to be up and running since it was a separate site.

2) BBHF download link(s) being deleted fast. MVP site is a private secured site. Thread(s) are not seo-friendly. It is based on tUDI (thread id) and wont appear on any google bot(s)

3) Many of the top sharer /sharer/ uses their own mega premium account for sharing or reuploading but putting their account at risk.
You will understand this if you bought your own mega premium account and try sharing or reuploading on courses that are being highly monitored.
It wont take hour that the link is deleted already because of copyright claim. And if you continue to reupload your account will be suspended for copyright claim.

If only the file size was less than 100 mb then that would be no problem you can reupload it into other different file hosting but how about if the file size of it exceed 50gb? exceed 100gb? or even 200 gb? would you always risk reuploading it again consuming your internet bandwidth and on a risk your paid mega premium account being suspended? I doubt anyone will do this. So with that scenario, shares are already been minimized, so with MVP site you can share with an ease of mind your link wont die easily.

4) Watermarked courses are NOT allowed on BBHF and even shares that do NOT use default BBHF password.
but on MVP site it is being allowed on "MVP Loot".

5) BBHF uses old mybb 1.6 script version and with the upgrade of php version some of the customized plugin such as "bumping thread" are no longer functional on BBHF and had to be disable. on MVP site it uses the latest 1.8 version that support the latest php version.

Now if you say why not just upgrade it from 1.6 to 1.8? Admin already done that but due to large sql database the upgrade always failed.
Will Admin risk compromising the entire BBHF just to upgrade when we know already that it was impossible to upgrade. So simply creating a new site was the best answer. We can run the BBHF while at the same time running the MVP site.

6) Rep+ (reputation system) on BBHF are widely abuse.
Removing it will take time and affect other members that has a legit rep+
On new site their will be a future plan to make incentive to those who contribute on adding useful mvp data. If Admin will not make a new mvp site and just keep using the BBHF site, then lets chose one of the member that has large rep here.

Johnyshadow has
Reputation: 75409

can admin afford to pay $75,409 for his 75409 rep points?
even we make the ratio of 1 rep = $0.50

still $75,409 divide by = $35,000

still it would be impossible to Admin to pay this 1 member alone.
We do have plenty members here that has around 10,000 rep+
So no doubt solution was creation of new site with new reputation system that is limited on 1 rep+ per day and on the new site that strictly do not allow rep begging or rep trading.

Once again thank you on asking.

We appreciate any feedback to be complained here so we can improve both BBHF and MVP at the same time.

And one more thing i will do ask an apology for those who paid for mvp access but they got delayed for almost a day. It is because transfering your data was being done by Admin manually at the same time and some of those newly paid MVP are top sharers that has around 1000+ topic so moving them manually takes time but rest assured this will be taken care of.
I already updated post#1 with the paid list.
36 slots taken, only 63 slots are available for $60 after 100 slots taken it will be charge to $100, no members will be given a special treatment or reservation, etc. The list are updated on real time. Thank you for understanding.

Regards,
Lala
I am intereted and I would start sharing again.
I was unable to participate in group buys because your typical greedy as fk gb owners did not like my post asking them for information (How the flying fck can someone provide support for 50 group buys?)
I have not shared one thing since then
So bring it on
(09-03-2022 12:25 PM)mehere001 Wrote: [ -> ]I am intereted and I would start sharing again.
I was unable to participate in group buys because your typical greedy as fk gb owners did not like my post asking them for information (How the flying fck can someone provide support for 50 group buys?)
I have not shared one thing since then
So bring it on

Don't let a few bad eggs put you off sharing things that other members will be appreciative of.
I had a look at MoneyVIPProgram.com and see that in lots of ways it is very much like BBHF - which is of course not a bad thing.

It gave me curiosity to ask some questions...:

1 - Is it intended to eventually replace BBHF completely ??

2 - What is to stop it from being spammed/hacked etc. ??

3 - If/when it gets populated and posts are transferred to there from here, what will be the good in checking for new posts at BOTH places regularly ??

4 - How will it be possible to know any better which things actually are money makers vs. all the guru turds that we are all so used to endlessly seeing that are really worthless ??

My personal view after seeing the section headings already in place is that I really do not need to add another forum to check in at every day like I do here most days.

Of course I very much appreciate the dedicated efforts it is taking to grow like this and my kudos to all those who are working at it !!
(09-03-2022 12:25 PM)mehere001 Wrote: [ -> ]I am intereted and I would start sharing again.
I was unable to participate in group buys because your typical greedy as fk gb owners did not like my post asking them for information (How the flying fck can someone provide support for 50 group buys?)
I have not shared one thing since then
So bring it on

Hi mehere001, BBHF had a gb rule if there is a current GB that is up and running, then any share course that contain GB will instantly be deleted if reported by the GB starter. We receive hundred(s) of new thread per day, we don't monitor those share thread unless we knew that there is an on-going GB for that so it will be automatically removed as respect to those GB starter who paid $100 to organize that GB. Do not be discouraged on how the BBHF gb works cause there are BBHF GB in the long run that the GB starter even share it after months or years have passed.
If you can share something even before the GB was been organize, we tell GB seller that there is already a share thread for that, we discourage them for running the GB, it was not just about the money. But if the GB seller already organize a GB for that and you came late on sharing it, so it will be removed.

I would appreciate if you join MVP and starting sharing on the new site.
I know you in the past when you share expensive courses. As mention by TheCowboy, (thank you for that).
TheCowboy. Wrote:Don't let a few bad eggs put you off sharing things that other members will be appreciative of.
BBHF GB system was been around for more than 6 years already and if you see there still lot of good members here who do not mind it all. Sharing should never be stopped :)
Well just join the MVP Site, there is no GB seller on that site yet, feel free to share there, you have all the freedom to join others who are already contributing on that site :)
(09-03-2022 02:03 PM)Lumos Wrote: [ -> ]I had a look at MoneyVIPProgram.com and see that in lots of ways it is very much like BBHF - which is of course not a bad thing.

It gave me curiosity to ask some questions...:

1 - Is it intended to eventually replace BBHF completely ??

2 - What is to stop it from being spammed/hacked etc. ??

3 - If/when it gets populated and posts are transferred to there from here, what will be the good in checking for new posts at BOTH places regularly ??

4 - How will it be possible to know any better which things actually are money makers vs. all the guru turds that we are all so used to endlessly seeing that are really worthless ??

My personal view after seeing the section headings already in place is that I really do not need to add another forum to check in at every day like I do here most days.

Of course I very much appreciate the dedicated efforts it is taking to grow like this and my kudos to all those who are working at it !!

Thank you Lumos for asking that, :)
Let me answer it.

Lumos Wrote:1 - Is it intended to eventually replace BBHF completely ??
Answer: NO , it wont replace BBHF at all.
It was a separate site that mainly focus on:
a) money and business related thread
b) important useful backup threads
c) gathering all high quality VIP members

the focus of MVP site was on VIP members alone.
Admin Mikhael does NOT accept if they are not a BBHF VIP member.

while BBHF on the other hand was for everyone, for all , even your just regular guest, registered members or vip members.

Difference was BBHF is public, while MVP was on a private side.

Lumos Wrote:2 - What is to stop it from being spammed/hacked etc. ??
Answer: There is no 100% guarantee that any site was not hackable.
BBHF is prune to hack because it uses old mybb 1.6 script.
The MVP site uses the latest version in which any vulnerabilities are been fixed. It will continue to update to the latest mybb version.

Even let say the hacker hacked it, and know the database, still cannot access it if he dont use the dedicated ip used by Admin Mikhael.
Now why i say not 100% and probably 99% and there is small chance of 1% it will be hack is because if the hacker managed to hack not the server of the MVP site but the actual data center of the hosting server then there is nothing we can do about that, that is why Admin Mikhael is exceeding his bandwidth limit monthly because he make sure he download BBHF and MVP data everyday so if anything goes wrong we can always restored and recovered.

Now on the issue of spam, it wont be spam because registration was disabled. Only MVP members who paid for access has the access on that site in which i will doubt they will spam since it will be reported easily by any members, like i said the MVP site will composed of high quality responsible VIP members in which i doubt they will spam unless their account was been hacked. but not a problem at all since we can always restore their hack account and delete the spam. MVP site is more on "useful data", not the usual trash garbage content of forcing members to post or pm me type related thread that consume forum data.

to be more clearer, it was like on 1 thread that has 25 pages of saying thanks for posting to unlock, it was not added on the MVP transfer, what Admin quote was post from members that post important or relevant info that is related to the said thread.

Lumos Wrote:3) 3 - If/when it gets populated and posts are transferred to there from here, what will be the good in checking for new posts at BOTH places regularly ??
Answer: We all know BBHF had plenty of crawler bot or leechers who scrape and copy it on their site.
MVP will make it harder for them since the transfer of data is based on members profile account and not based on thread creation date.
But if it happen to want to check BBHF and MVP site and make comparison, thejn you will find that there are shares posted on MVP site that cannot be found on BBHF.


Lumos Wrote:4 - How will it be possible to know any better which things actually are money makers vs. all the guru turds that we are all so used to endlessly seeing that are really worthless ??
Answer: Good thing on MVP site is speeding up your time.
On BBHF if there is a 25 pages or 500 pages post.
When admin filter their data, on MVP site what was actually included on scraping or transfer are "quality post" or "quality review" or "mirror posted" by members while removing non quality post. I know almost everyone notice it that some BBHF thread here had plenty of reply but majority of their reply was just "ty", "thank you", "post to unlock", etc.

while on mvp what we included on transfer was post from quality members that instead of just saying thank you, the reason was provided in a form of personal experience or review.

BBHF common reply - thank you for the sharing, this is a good course
(but not mentioning why it is a good course.)


MVP important replied are added - thank you for sharing, this is a good course because <state the reason>


BBHF common reply - this course suck
(but not mentioning why it suck)

MVP important replied are added - this course suck and waste of time (then mention why it suck)

See the difference? :)

It was more on like saving your time :)

Again feel free to ask any doubt you had in mind and i would be happy to assist and help :)

Thanks.

Regards,
Lala
Hi Lala, I'm also interested. I'd like to have the exact same "Hun" username as here, please share the payment link in pm - if possible PayPal - Appreciate. Hun
Honestly, this is the worst idea ever!
BBHF is simply being diluted by spreading the content on 2 different platforms.

Nowadays there are many many BBHF type sites, and as such, the result will be that more and more people are leaving BBHF and moving over to other sites.

I am sure that if we could look at the backend of BBHF it would show a steep decline in both visitors and time spent on the site if you look back and compare it to eg. 2-3 years ago.
This idiotic plan seems like something that has been created while desperately hanging on for dear life, and hoping not to lose the last grasp on the BBHF community.

The problem is, however, that if you wanted to keep a good grasp on the community, BBHF should have been MUCH better at dealing with scammers, and kept improving the site, not just let shit fall apart and now years later, try to pick up the pieces.

It's honestly most likely too late since other platforms have looked at how you guys handled shit here and used it for a guide as to what NOT to do...

If you want to do something, then you need to fix the BBHF forum, not make a new forum.
In BBHF there are so many times where scammers are being allowed to stay on the platform and other bullshit.

Fix all the crap, and protect the BBHF.
Don't go for the easy quick money, as there is no community on the other site, so you will never get anything close to what BBHF is, or at least has been for many years.

I reported a scammer that was allowed to stay in BBHF for over 2 years despite scamming many people here in the GB section, and that case is far from a lone case.. A typical case that should never have been possible. You scam, you're gone forever!

Fix your shit, do a better job with maintaining the forum, and forget that idiotic plan.
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