(05-11-2014 10:19 PM)itshim Wrote: [ -> ]I couldnt agree more, if its not one rep point whore stamping there feet like a petulant child its the other, its off putting and one of the reasons i hardly use this site. The other being the logo sorry jonny love your bh work but the logo still stinks like week old fish
Before I go take my mom out for dinner ...
I wasn't even going to address you. As a lower life form, you don't merit any more consideration than the occasional nasty substance I step on!
BUT
First >>>[[[Please show some RESPECT on each other. No badwords please!]]]<<< - you don't know the meaning of the word petulant. And the only whore you know about is the one that gave you a freebie last night. (Your only means of getting satisfaction!)
There is no such word or expression as "off putting" - you Brit mother f*cker! (If it were a word - which it isn't except for erroneous use by poor people and illiterates in the gutter you live in - it would be hyphenated.)
The fourth word in (attempted) sentence #1 is more, which should be followed by a period. And it is couldn't - not "couldnt." (Da.mn - contractions are hard for you grammar school drop-out maggots, aren't they?)
In this instance, it's is proper - not its. It is also capitalized in this area of your ramble - it begins a sentence. And it is not "the other" - it is another. (Ended with a period, by the way.) Before I overlook it, it is their not "there" in your usage within this particular rant.
You may want to restate this in its entirety:
"The other being the logo sorry jonny love your bh work but the logo still stinks like week old fish"
Hmm ... Try this:
The other is the logo. Sorry Jonny - love your BBHF work, but the logo still stinks like week-old fish.
Ending sentences with periods or extending them with hyphens is also really hard. Capitalization must only be for college graduates there too, huh? (Yes, it s.ucks being illiterate, doesn't it?)
You need to put your "Man" or "Woman" pants on if you want to sound like an educated adult.
I am a very average writer and not an English teacher, but I specialize in writing sales and marketing copy that makes sales and money. I leave the editing to an editor, but you need serious help with your tortured use of "gutter-speak."
Ahem ... moving right along now.
As for comments made to me - you aren't even capable or intelligent enough to wash my a.ss.
And reps are ways for members to give thanks - extend a little gratitude for free s.hit or just decent info. Things you are not competent to understand! I could care less about getting any from the likes of a.ssholes like you.
And I am speaking for many when I say I have gone to the crapper and flushed better, more intelligent turds down the toilet than the words you spent days to write in your post.
You are nothing but a loser as your record of contribution in 3 years clearly proves. Awesome number of reps and posts as.swipe!
But you crossed the line when you made a derogatory statement about Jonny. NO ONE here gives more than he does!
He hardly needs my defense, but the only stink of week-old fish in BBHF or anywhere is your presence here! (Hell, your existence ANYWHERE is an extreme waste of human flesh! It is human, right?)
So, do everyone a favor - take your penniless Brit a.ss to the other forums you use so much more than this one and contribute to the bullshit there.
BBHF needs to charge $1 for membership so all the useless trolls like you cannot afford to be here!
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Recommend to everyone here, instead of getting all heated up, perhaps have a nice cup of tea, an aspirin and a good lie down instead.
The subject in discussion just doesn't merit this much invective, vituperation and abuse. FFS! Please breathe slowly and calmly, thinking nice thoughts.
As my dear old Gran used to say, "if you can't say something nice about someone, then don't say anything".
This very good and sound advice helped her live to the ripe old age of 93 before she finally passed away. It happened one sunny afternoon drinking bourbon and shooting kangaroos down in the back paddock (we had a small farm back then in the Outback of Australia, still do, now its a bigger farm, 250,000 acres but the banks in there too). Anyway that was how she wanted to go. Peace and Love to All on this Wonderful BBH Forum.
Or if you prefer, Far Out, Solid and Right On too. Just don't sweat the small stuff.
After purchasing this product I keep getting infected
trojan with Mcafees AV when i go to install this software! Just wondered if anybody else had issues with downloads from the developers site! Could be a False/Positive.. Just seem weird.
(05-13-2014 12:39 AM)PompeyHero Wrote: [ -> ]After purchasing this product I keep getting infected
trojan with Mcafees AV when i go to install this software! Just wondered if anybody else had issues with downloads from the developers site! Could be a False/Positive.. Just seem weird.
A couple of people have had issues Pompey. I have used the exact files I have posted here with no problems.
This isn't a professionally coded app. A recipe software creation tool was used to make it, and I think that may be the problem with it and what triggers your AV software.
If I was concerned - trust me - I wouldn't take a chance. I won't install lots of stuff because of the slightest hint of malware.
For me this software is a joke, Quasar you can't sell this websites cause there is no dynamic stuff in them (PHP, Python ...), I have 11 years experience in IT and this thread makes me laugh, with all respect, if you do some prototypes this tool can help a bit to easily show your client how the website will be, but for business stuff you ain't getting further with this :)
Anyway $10 is good as a price !
This thread should be moved to Offers cause it turns into a sales pitch !
(05-13-2014 03:02 AM)Jamzman AKA Shurikn Wrote: [ -> ]For me this software is a joke, Quasar you can't sell this websites cause there is no dynamic stuff in them (PHP, Python ...), I have 11 years experience in IT and this thread makes me laugh, with all respect, if you do some prototypes this tool can help a bit to easily show your client how the website will be, but for business stuff you ain't getting further with this :)
Anyway $10 is good as a price !
This thread should be moved to Offers cause it turns into a sales pitch !
Hey Jamz - you are entitled to express your opinion - however misguided and wrong it may be.
Yeah, you may be right. Hell, almost $4000 later - this product is truly not worth a sh*t.
Sales thread?
For whom?
This seller?
Surely, you are joking!
I wouldn't sell his stuff for any amount of money!
Move it - delete it - I absolutely could not care less.
You are kind of stuck on the idea of moving crap without a good reason or clear definition about why.
More power to you babe! That is your reason, right?
As for your 11 years (of whatever it is you do) - I could not care any less about that either.
My ONLY concern is with whether sites made with this cheapie program sell and the buyers are happy. I don't give a sh*t about prototypes, dynamic bullshit, Python, PHP or any crap that doesn't make money.
The people buying the sites also aren't interested in HTML5, Web 3.0, PHP, Python - NONE of that crap matters to small businesspeople.
The people buying these are small guys that want a sharp look for their online presence. They DO NOT care about all that programming bullshit you think is obligatory.
So you can laugh babe - I will keep cashing the checks and taking PayPal payments!
The buyers of these are ecstatic so far - and that's all I care about! A couple of them are buying more of them or sending friends.
So, you continue with your "golden code" bullshit - and I'll make money!
Sound like a deal?
Cool!
Now - just delete this entire thread altogether ACE!
You and your "opinions" just dropped my "opinion" about you and your moneymaking skills - about - let's see ...
100%
At the end of the day - it's about money dude! "Golden Code" and all the rest of the stuff you are laughing about doesn't count for sh*t!
BUT
Just by the way - the picture pack - the one that is a $10+ add-on IS being given away here FREE.
And the video backgrounds that ONLY come with the $20+ video site building upgrade - the ones you cannot get unless you buy it - are posted here FREE too!
And I was about upload the video backgrounds people want - the ones that are another upsell in this marketing >>>[[[Please show some RESPECT on each other. No badwords please!]]]<<<'s sales offer for about $30.
But those are almost a GB and will take time to break up and upload to the right site too.
So - following the letter of your vague (and useless) definitions about categorization and WSO law - there is FREE WSO sh*t here!
So - the actual app may not crank out your "golden code" - and it does cost a few bucks - BUT ALL the stuff associated with upsells and in the upsells is FREE!
This means this thread - ALL OF IT - complies FULLY - even with whatever arbitrary and wrong conclusions you want to arrive at about what section it belongs in, Mr. 11-year coder.
Do whatever you like dude! Doesn't amount to a pile of turds to me what you do.
I've already got all this crap, but if you want to screw all the other members, shut this d*amn thing down!
As I've already stated, I will simply not post a d*amn thing here. That will make it simple for you.
You won't have to struggle so hard about what to delete for reasons only a brick would understand.
Knock yourself out dude! That bright, shiny mod badge is awaiting you!
D@mn...you guys still argying about this! Gosh!
EVERYONE, i mean EVERYONE is entitled to his/her own oppinion without being attacked by other people!
If you see someone is cussing at you, dont cuss back! End of Drama!
Just like a kindergarten!
I'll agree with Quasar on this. Clients really don't care what is in the product you sell them. It comes down to this. They want it. You got it. They like it.Get paid. Done.
Alright guys. I bought this a while ago because it was $10 - since errbody and their pet cat is talking about it, heres my lowdown on it:
I literally made a huge profile of subdomains for a bunch of niches in my local area using this software. I was using them as a web profile to show existing clients and was pushing to sell some sites. Of 88 total clients between my partner and I, I showed it to 5 clients and at the end of the day, I scrapped this software and decided to stick with StartupFW. The functionality of this software is R*******.
IMO: This software is R*******. I'm having a hard time believing Anyone made $4k from web dev sales through this software alone, and most importantly, $4k worth of transactions on paypal. I agree with Quasar to an extent on what clients want, but if your clients are business owners, they are not R******* and can call out bullshtt gimmicks on sight.
Just my $0.02 - no need for any rage ;p
"I literally made a huge profile of subdomains for a bunch of niches in my local area using this software. I was using them as a web profile to show existing clients and was pushing to sell some sites. Of 88 total clients between my partner and I, I showed it to 5 clients and at the end of the day, I scrapped this software and decided to stick with StartupFW. The functionality of this software is R*******."
Hey, you tried. Not everything here is for everyone. At least you are a little constructive. You did more than most and at least tried to use this in your business.
I don't know what you did or how you did it. I don't know how good, great or lousy a salesperson you are. And that sort of comparison usually winds-up being a pissing contest anyway.
So, with nothing to go on, I cannot tell you what you could have done better, changed, etc. One day is hardly enough to judge results with anything. And remember, this app only builds these simple sites for you.
It doesn't create the offer, make the offer or close deals.
And make no mistake - the most important part of this or anything you do to make money is the OFFER.
What I do - before anything else in my profession is determine the best, most efficient and straightest line from what I have offer to closing the deal - and everything in-between.
Few can do what I do as well as I do it - in print or personally. I am not saying that to brag - it's just a fact. (Even though some know-nothing idiot will show up and say it is nothing but bragging.) After 30+ years of doing this, I know what I know and do what I do - simple as that.
Once in a while, I go out with one of the salespeople working for one of my clients. We make a few calls that are the "tough sales" - the immovable ones that they have made 3-10 calls on with no success.
This is only fun for me - something just to keep me sharp. I usually wager a nice lunch with the sales rep, so I have an incentive. There is nothing as satisfying as closing deals belly-to-belly and face-to-face.
I have left more than a few of them stuttering in disbelief when I closed deals on the first call and in front of them - that they had in their "cold prospect" lists for one year or longer.
So - judge what you will - and believe whatever you like.
"IMO: This software is R*******. I'm having a hard time believing Anyone made $4k from web dev sales through this software alone, and most importantly, $4k worth of transactions on paypal. I agree with Quasar to an extent on what clients want, but if your clients are business owners, they are not R******* and can call out bullshtt gimmicks on sight.
Just my $0.02 - no need for any rage ;p"
Well, like others, again - believe what you like. I don't have anything for sale. You were offered LOTS of info about a product that costs a tiny amount of money relative to the returns. You had access to several of the bonuses and non-serialized OTOs for free.
The clients I and my outsourcer have sold these sites to are owners of simple businesses. They understand the easy stuff like getting more customers or calls and the things that produce sales - make them more money.
I don't have any idea what kinds of people you tried to prospect and sell in your business, but I target lots of businesses you may not call on at all.
I keep things ridiculously simple and use lots of Ben Franklin-type stuff with these kinds of prospects, which is brutally effective. (If you know salesmanship, you know Ben Franklin stuff - or you should know.)
And I constantly fine-tune and shift my offer - until it's as automatic as it can be made. I don't worry about the product much - I change the offer. Even if it's working, my goal is always to close e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e. I know this will never happen, but that's still my goal.
Sight unseen, I would absolutely bet I would have closed at least 2-4 of the exact same clients you called on using one of my approaches. I know this because I know my skills and can extract results based on lots of years of sales performance and history.
Here is one clue you may want to think about: If you scattered your prospecting among lots of different niches, you made a big mistake. You should have targeted one niche and made one proposal to every prospect in that niche - until you closed a deal!
You would have been focused. Your offer would have been well-developed, sharp and fine-tuned.
You would have closed deals - probably several of them.
That is just my two cents - no hostility necessary.
Only, don't blame the mechanism or end-product - take a look at what actually failed. It is rare the technology or the product was the culprit.
I see other mistakes you made, but this is the extent of what I can offer free.
As you may have gathered, I do this stuff for money - not for fame or notoriety. And I went way past that $4k mark this morning - and did not lift a finger or talk to anyone.
This is still just something I mess around with - it isn't a big part of my business. But I have turned it ALL over to an outsourcer now. She closed the deals this morning.
Hey, the sites sell. I sure as hell won't apologize for making sales or money!