[GET] (offtopic): Solid Reasons To Get Vaccinated

[Vivekananda]

(04-04-2022 10:34 PM)mthomas Wrote:  More reasons NOT to get "vaccinated" for Covid!
I'm not saying this is scientifically proven (YET), only time will tell but it is very interesting that
more and more people seem to be having health complications and even deaths that are hard to explain (i.e. young healthy people dying while playing sports, major athletes having to quit because of heart issues, kids having heart attacks and dying ?????? I might be wrong but I don't remember reading about these types of health issues before covid/vaccines for covid (at least not in the high numbers we are today).......time and HONEST scientific research (if we can get that) will determine who ultimately was right!

The main issue is....it should ALWAYS be a PERSONAL CHOICE about what you put into your body (ie vaccines, drugs, etc.) or if you choose NOT to.

No blood clots, thrombosis, myocarditis, stroke, heart attack, pulmonary embolism, anaplylatic shock.
No autoimmune reactions, no heart failure.
Nothing!
1st shot (september/2021)
2nd shot: Astrazeneca.
3rd: Pfizer
4th: Janssen
Don't be stupid, be happy! Take the shots!

[Vivekananda]

(02-23-2022 09:01 PM)mthomas Wrote:  Vivekananda, let's use a little common sense here okay?

Ok!!!
>>Vivekananda, let's use a little common sense here okay?
>>if you compare the USA with India WITH 4X's the population of the USA, the numbers are (...)

India? Can you compare the organization of USA with poor resources in India, and so many people living in distant villages?

>> if you look at the numbers across the world and the map you will see VAST discrepancies between the countries. WHY?
Subnotifications, lack of resources to count all the cases.

>>WHY do the first world/industrial nations seem to have the highest death rates?
More organizated and democratic nations, better system to count who is sick or not

[Vivekananda]

(02-23-2022 10:19 PM)jimmythesaint Wrote:  Mthomas

very well said as always BUT you are wasting your time

people like Vivekananda are delusional and will ONLY find data to support the beliefs she has allowed to be installed

jimmythesinner... exactly the same can be said about people that believe in conspirations about covid, flat earth, etc.

[Vivekananda]

(02-23-2022 09:01 PM)mthomas Wrote:  Vivekananda, let's use a little common sense here okay?

Okay

>>How is that possible?
>>- India hasn't reported the correct number of deaths by Covid?

Right! Incorrect numbers.

>> India actually has a lot less Covid deaths due to something? Ivermectin perhaps?

Not at all. This "a lot less" are only official - and wrong - numbers.

- The data is faulty?

Yes!

>> WHY does the USA have almost TWICE as many Covid deaths as India which has a population 4X's the size of the USA? (as stated above)

Hint:
"COVID mortality in India: National survey data and health facility deaths"
Abstract
India’s national COVID death totals remain undetermined.
Using an independent nationally representative survey (...)
The analyses find that India’s cumulative COVID deaths by September 2021 were six to seven times higher than reported officially."

Here is the complete text:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scie...ookieSet=1


>> (like perhaps Ivermectin and other drugs are WORKING in places like India

No! Not working with REAL numbers - if one day we'll be able to say so about numbers in India.
The truth is that there is a lot of "perhaps" in your "perhaps".

>> WHY hasn't anyone questioned this data and asked if vaccinations are RAISING the EVERALL death rates?

In Brazil the death rates dropped with vaccinations.
Less conspiration theories, more facts. The world is not flat.

[Vivekananda]

(04-04-2022 11:04 PM)mthomas Wrote:  I'm not saying these are from proven scientific sources but here are some interesting news articles to get you started in your own research on these Covid vaccine-related health topics!

German Insurance company fires CEO who released COVID vaccine injury data, then scrubs data from website

Frontline Doctor says fetal deaths up nearly 2,000 percent since COVID jab rollout!

New Study Finds Persistent Heart Abnormalities among Covid Vaccinated

Dailyexpose link? Oh, well.
"dailyexpose, a low-quality, rabble-rousing Wordpress site with a few hundred daily readers."
Let me add "asking money to survive".
https://www.chillfiltr.com/exposing-dail...nest-media

Is sott reliable?
"To create Sott review I checked Sott.net reputation at lots of sites, including Siteadvisor and MyWOT. I found that Sott is safe for children and does not look fraudulent according to them(they described it as legit) and aso added "Please be warned that to describe security status of Sott.net we use data openly available on the Web, thus we cannot guarantee that no scam sites might have been mistakenly considered legit and no fraud or PC issues may occur in this regard."
Heres what I found out personally: There are Fraudulent claims with pseudo-science religion-inspired articles, with zero sources and focuses mainly on circlejerking various conspiracy theories, such as but not limited to: JFK assassination, 9/11, vaccination, aliens, and the 2012 Apocalypse on the website
dangerous misinformation on health issues.DON'T give them your email address or credit card details."
https://www.quora.com/Is-sott-net-signs-...s-articles

What about lifesitenews?
"Contrary to claims in a LifeSiteNews article, COVID-19 vaccination makes it less likely for someone to get COVID-19"
https://healthfeedback.org/outlet/lifesite-news/

[mthomas]

Working today but you might want to check these FACTS.....

First, overall death rates for those aged 18 - 64, as reported by CDC data and Life Insurance Company Actuaries have documented death rates 40% over pre-pandemic levels, and the majority of deaths are NOT due to Covid. These are the HIGHEST death rates in the history of the Insurance Industry. "Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one in 200 year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic."

I'm sure you will parrot the talking points that this has "nothing" to do with the "vaccines" but even a 5 year old child would be inquisitive enough to question the so called coincidence of all these abnormal deaths right after half the world population received an experimental "vaccination" that hasn't been long term tested at all along with increased numbers of side effects being reported everyday now.

Second, record number of deaths among professional, college level and children/teens caused by "natural causes" that include sudden heart attacks, blood clots and other neurological side effects. These numbers are up all across the world in countries that have high "vaccination" rates but again, I'm sure it's just a coincidence, totally unrelated to the untested, Covid shots/boosters, suuuuuureeeee, riiiiiighhhhhhttttttt....nothing to see here, just move on, no need to do any scientific analysis or data analysis on these statistics, after all Pfizer had agreed to share their data with the public after "only" 75 years!!!!! No need to be suspicious over that at all. What a great company so open and generous, sort of like the Biden Presidency! (in case you don't understand sarcasm, YES, I was being sarcastic here!)

As for YOU taking the shots and boosters like a good little gov't lemming, congrats, glad they worked out for you...as I've always said, I'm a Libertarian and believe people should be free to do what they want (as long as they don't hurt other's in the process), however that also includes being free to NOT do something as well.....like being forced to take an experimental, untested, "vaccine" that isn't a real vaccine and doesn't do what it was reported to have been for (stop you from getting Covid, stop you from spreading Covid to others and stopping the virus from mutating...the "vaccine" did NONE of these things).

Also interesting that in Uruguay a Judge has ordered Pfizer to prove efficacy and safety of it's Covid vaccine within 48 hours or they would suspend childhood "vaccinations" in that country......Hhhhhhmmmmmmm, very interesting, why would they do that since the "vaccine" is so "safe"? My guess is they know it's NOT safe and are doing that so they can sue Pfizer when there are side effects and health complications in the future for these test subjects, I mean children.

Also interesting that you dismiss the FACTS that India and much of Africa have massively lower death rates from Covid even though they have the same or much more people as compared to the US and other highly "vaccinated" countries. And yes, it's also VERY interesting that a cheap and highly effective drug like Ivermectin has been purposely pulled from use for Covid by the medical authorities and corrupt politicians. Ivermectin is heavily used in India and Africa and the covid death rates are much lower.....again, hhhhhhmmmmmm, what a coincidence and since Ivermectin costs less than a meal at McDonalds and is as safe (or safer) than aspirin, why wasn't it given as a preventative here? Why were doctor's threatened with loss of license if they gave their patients the safe/effective drug? Why was it made into such a big deal when covid patients were being intubated in the ICU's and were ALL dying and THAT lethal practice was allowed to go on for months even though they knew it was killing covid patients? Why not give dying patients Ivermectin, it couldn't do any worse and might help even if it was a placebo effect but doctor's were ORDERED by threat of loss of job and medical license, even through giving a patient an EXPERIMENTAL, UNTESTED and UNNECESSARY Covid "vaccine" was allowed.

I guess there are many people that want to be led around by the nose by those in power, refuse to think for themselves and believe whatever propaganda they are fed and just go along with the herd. Hey, to each his own. I believe you can take as many shots/boosters as you want just leave me alone and free to do as I please and NOT take this untested, experimental "vaccine".

If you want to put your future health in the hands of those in the government (like Dr. Death Fauci, who receives a royalty off of each shot/booster) and believe everything they tell you, go ahead, there always needs to be "useful idiots" in every group.

PS - Let me guess, you also believe in "man-made" global warming, right?
Glug, glug, glug......keep drinking that cool-aid!

[mthomas]

Covid Vaccine Adverse Events Report......All numbers rising

[dynasty5]

Here is MF link PDF to Times article in case the pay wall gets you


https://www.mediafire.com/file/o82fuinkv...d.pdf/file

[Vivekananda]

(07-07-2022 03:55 AM)mthomas Wrote:  As for YOU taking the shots and boosters like a good little gov't lemming, congrats, glad they worked out for you...

I forgot to mention... all my family was vaccinated. No problem with anyone here.

(07-07-2022 03:55 AM)mthomas Wrote:  Also interesting that in Uruguay a Judge has ordered Pfizer to prove efficacy and safety of it's Covid vaccine within 48 hours or they would suspend childhood "vaccinations" in that country......Hhhhhhmmmmmmm, very interesting, why would they do that since the "vaccine" is so "safe"? My guess is they know it's NOT safe and are doing that so they can sue Pfizer when there are side effects and health complications in the future for these test subjects, I mean children.

Yep, seems to me that the guy is antivax. Recent news (translate by google):
Uruguayan government questions impartiality of judge who evaluates suspension of vaccine in children
Alejandro Recarey asked Pfizer for detailed information about vaccines and contracts signed

06/07/2022 | 2:45 pm
AFP

The Uruguayan government questioned the impartiality of a judge who summoned him this Wednesday (6) for an appeal to suspend the vaccination of children against Covid-19, which is voluntary.

Representatives of the Ministry of Public Health (MSP) presented a rejection to Judge Alejandro Recarey, who on Saturday convened a hearing for authorities and pharmaceutical company Pfizer to demand detailed information about the vaccines administered during the pandemic and the contracts signed.

In the document, the MSP highlights the "lack of impartiality of the judge for having given his prior opinion on the same issue" of vaccination, according to a statement posted on Twitter.

It also claims that the appeal was presented "out of time" and highlights the failure to "compliance with other requirements set out in the amparo law".

"Vaccines are effective and safe, they have managed to reduce mortality and infections, they are a mechanism to protect people's lives, health and integrity, they have been approved and provided by the competent body," the ministry said.

"The judge's actions constituted a clear violation of the separation of powers, invading the powers of health, in charge of the Executive Branch", he added.


Judge Recarey, who serves as an alternate in a contentious administrative court, gave rise to the appeal of lawyer Maximiliano Dentone to suspend the vaccination campaign "in pediatric age".

In Uruguay, children from 5 years of age are allowed to be vaccinated.

[Vivekananda]

(07-07-2022 03:55 AM)mthomas Wrote:  Working today but you might want to check these FACTS.....

after all Pfizer had agreed to share their data with the public after "only" 75 years!!!!! No need to be suspicious over that at all.

Maybe it's a hoax:
"Fact #1 : FDA Did Not Ask For 75 Years To Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data"

https://www.techarp.com/science/fda-75-y...cine-data/