[Method] Give Away FREE Websites and Make More Than You Would Selling Them

[Zoran2409]

Thank you for this sharing. Reps for you

[whoamireally]

I'm interested when this is ready. Thanks for all the information and advice so far!

[nonstopfan]

(05-12-2018 07:07 PM)Rockaby Wrote:  I have been using Tacos method with my own twist, and I've been able to get some good leads with the same, so I feel that I am able to answer all your questions with ease. Just a little something I can do, while our brother is attending to business. Correct me if I am wrong:

1. Who is responsible, and I imagine this is not a small responsibility, after all, it's somebody's actual business, for choosing the domain itself? You, or the client?
As a part of the contract, once the client has made the initial payment. I ask them to buy the domain and send them a small video that helps them buy it and give it to me. I am never responsible for the domain buying or the name selection, becuase its unnecessary to and fro communication with the client, that I can avoid. Makes my life much easier and I don't have any liability towards its maintenance and renewal.

2. If you, what if the client doesn't approve of you choice? Maybe they would rather have a different description of their site and business. So, how long do you invest in making or helping to make this choice?
After the payment is made I send a basic Client Questionnaire, that outlines some important things that the client needs to tell me like:
- Their top competitors according to them
- Selection of the templates that they liked from my collection
- Will they provide the images or I'll use Stock
- A little about themselves, their ideologies and their brand
- Their hi-resolution logo, if they have one. If not, we can make one for them. In the package they are given three logo options with 1 revision. They should send me samples of logos that they like.
- I try to get as much details from the client upfront and make it a point to tell him that I am not available all the time, so if he/she has questions, they should by all means make a list of it and send it to my email and ill address them.

3. Once the site is created and is running, what happens to the domain if the client, for one reason or another, bails out and stops making the monthly payments? Does it revert to them? If it does, now you have to figure out whether to 'push' the domain to their account with GoDaddy, or whomever, or to transfer it; I understand the procedure isn't the same for these two options.
If the client decides to cancel the subscription in mid way, then we retain the website he owns, along with all content and design (that's our Copyright, since it was part of a free giveaway) and we let him keep the domain. That helps us use the content for someone in the same industry, later.

I hope I was able to address your concerns. Have a good day!

(05-08-2018 07:02 PM)jorgemv Wrote:  So, without further ado, here's where I got stuck then, and I'm afraid I'm stumped now. How do you handle the domain?

What I mean is:

1. Who is responsible, and I imagine this is not a small responsibility, after all, it's somebody's actual business, for choosing the domain itself? You, or the client?
2. If you, what if the client doesn't approve of you choice? Maybe they would rather have a different description of their site and business. So, how long do you invest in making or helping to make this choice?
3. Once the site is created and is running, what happens to the domain if the client, for one reason or another, bails out and stops making the monthly payments? Does it revert to them? If it does, now you have to figure out whether to 'push' the domain to their account with GoDaddy, or whomever, or to transfer it; I understand the procedure isn't the same for these two options.

My apologies for the number of questions, but right now, these concerns, and for some reason after reading the posts here, I'm the only one who considers this a problem, are what's holding me back. I'm working on creating a site, and I have numerous domain possibilities for it that I'm considering; I have even come to an agreement with an outsourcer who appears to be a Divi expert, to be the one to create the sites as my partner. Drag and drop WP builders give me the willies, to say the least. I lack any measurable web design abilities; obviously, you do not. My idea is to concentrate on marketing and promotion, while my partner makes the sites.

If you could fill me in on how you deal with the domains for your clients, I would be quite grateful. One way or another, many thanks for what you have shared thus far!

I am in no way, shape or form an expert at this, but I have implemented most of what Tacos have laid out for us added a few more wrinkles. I'm still in the infancy stages. Literally, less than two weeks in. I will definitely come back and update my progress in the coming weeks. Something of the stuff that I have learned with this process is to:

The below answers parts of questions #1, #2 and #3 :)
1. You are not going to build the site without having a FREE in-depth consultation with your client. During this consultation, you can go over possible domain name options, company profile/description/bio and any and all relevant information that you will need for the build. This is the most important part of the process. You will learn what stock photos, logos, images, social media sites, music, etc the customer has and take it from there. This will be your opportunity to upsell. Maybe their logo sucks or they dont have one. BANG, upsell a high resolution logo for a one time price. They own the logo. You can create the logo yourself or outsource it and still make a huge profit depending on how much you charge for the logo. Remember, there are different prices for logo designing so have a comparison chart and let the client choose. In the worse case scenario, you should be able to double your money if you outsource your logo creation. Other upsell options include, SEO Optimization, Site Ranking/Backlinks, Company Bio/About Us etc. Tacos talked about additional pages for a fee.

2. Once your consultation is complete, make a quick contract to cover what you discussed so it wont be any disapproving later on. If the customer ultimately doesn't like the logo, description or color of site theme, etc, that's all built into what you are charging. That's just good customer service. Offer limited revisions which should be stated specifically in the contract. Make sure that you dictate what you will update and revise during stated time in contract. BTW, if you outsource your logo design, depending on who you hire, they will have 5, 10, unlimited revisions so it doesnt hurt you at all.

3. This is where tacos could probably offer more assistance as I am still in infancy stages. However, if you followed the steps above, your client either has his own stuff which he owns, purchased the logo from you which he now owns and if he purchased a company bio from you that would be dictated in the contract if he owns the right to it or if you still own the right to it. Your profits will be so high that it wont matter. I think that you are over-thinking it. Remember, your expenses going in are so minimal. As tacos stated, all packages are roughly $100 per month. you can do month to month options or 3,6,12 months options. Payment should be made upfront and you might want to offer discounts. Like charging $500 for the 6 month package etc. Like Tacos said minimum should be 3 months. If customer bails after that you made profit so it doesnt matter. Customer cannot bail before because he already paid, and you stated in the contract no returns/refunds.

If client wants domain and website transferred to another site he will have to do it and handle all costs associated with that OR you can charge him for the migration :)

If the client just wants the keys to vehicle, fine, he's essentially already paid for the labor which was minimal and he owns most if not all of the intellectual property.

[Zoran2409]

Thank you very much for your sharing, I learn every day

[jorgemv]

(05-17-2018 05:27 AM)nonstopfan Wrote:  

(05-12-2018 07:07 PM)Rockaby Wrote:  I have been using Tacos method with my own twist, and I've been able to get some good leads with the same, so I feel that I am able to answer all your questions with ease. Just a little something I can do, while our brother is attending to business. Correct me if I am wrong:

1. Who is responsible, and I imagine this is not a small responsibility, after all, it's somebody's actual business, for choosing the domain itself? You, or the client?
As a part of the contract, once the client has made the initial payment. I ask them to buy the domain and send them a small video that helps them buy it and give it to me. I am never responsible for the domain buying or the name selection, becuase its unnecessary to and fro communication with the client, that I can avoid. Makes my life much easier and I don't have any liability towards its maintenance and renewal.

2. If you, what if the client doesn't approve of you choice? Maybe they would rather have a different description of their site and business. So, how long do you invest in making or helping to make this choice?
After the payment is made I send a basic Client Questionnaire, that outlines some important things that the client needs to tell me like:
- Their top competitors according to them
- Selection of the templates that they liked from my collection
- Will they provide the images or I'll use Stock
- A little about themselves, their ideologies and their brand
- Their hi-resolution logo, if they have one. If not, we can make one for them. In the package they are given three logo options with 1 revision. They should send me samples of logos that they like.
- I try to get as much details from the client upfront and make it a point to tell him that I am not available all the time, so if he/she has questions, they should by all means make a list of it and send it to my email and ill address them.

3. Once the site is created and is running, what happens to the domain if the client, for one reason or another, bails out and stops making the monthly payments? Does it revert to them? If it does, now you have to figure out whether to 'push' the domain to their account with GoDaddy, or whomever, or to transfer it; I understand the procedure isn't the same for these two options.
If the client decides to cancel the subscription in mid way, then we retain the website he owns, along with all content and design (that's our Copyright, since it was part of a free giveaway) and we let him keep the domain. That helps us use the content for someone in the same industry, later.

I hope I was able to address your concerns. Have a good day!

(05-08-2018 07:02 PM)jorgemv Wrote:  So, without further ado, here's where I got stuck then, and I'm afraid I'm stumped now. How do you handle the domain?

What I mean is:

1. Who is responsible, and I imagine this is not a small responsibility, after all, it's somebody's actual business, for choosing the domain itself? You, or the client?
2. If you, what if the client doesn't approve of you choice? Maybe they would rather have a different description of their site and business. So, how long do you invest in making or helping to make this choice?
3. Once the site is created and is running, what happens to the domain if the client, for one reason or another, bails out and stops making the monthly payments? Does it revert to them? If it does, now you have to figure out whether to 'push' the domain to their account with GoDaddy, or whomever, or to transfer it; I understand the procedure isn't the same for these two options.

My apologies for the number of questions, but right now, these concerns, and for some reason after reading the posts here, I'm the only one who considers this a problem, are what's holding me back. I'm working on creating a site, and I have numerous domain possibilities for it that I'm considering; I have even come to an agreement with an outsourcer who appears to be a Divi expert, to be the one to create the sites as my partner. Drag and drop WP builders give me the willies, to say the least. I lack any measurable web design abilities; obviously, you do not. My idea is to concentrate on marketing and promotion, while my partner makes the sites.

If you could fill me in on how you deal with the domains for your clients, I would be quite grateful. One way or another, many thanks for what you have shared thus far!

I am in no way, shape or form an expert at this, but I have implemented most of what Tacos have laid out for us added a few more wrinkles. I'm still in the infancy stages. Literally, less than two weeks in. I will definitely come back and update my progress in the coming weeks. Something of the stuff that I have learned with this process is to:

The below answers parts of questions #1, #2 and #3 :)
1. You are not going to build the site without having a FREE in-depth consultation with your client. During this consultation, you can go over possible domain name options, company profile/description/bio and any and all relevant information that you will need for the build. This is the most important part of the process. You will learn what stock photos, logos, images, social media sites, music, etc the customer has and take it from there. This will be your opportunity to upsell. Maybe their logo sucks or they dont have one. BANG, upsell a high resolution logo for a one time price. They own the logo. You can create the logo yourself or outsource it and still make a huge profit depending on how much you charge for the logo. Remember, there are different prices for logo designing so have a comparison chart and let the client choose. In the worse case scenario, you should be able to double your money if you outsource your logo creation. Other upsell options include, SEO Optimization, Site Ranking/Backlinks, Company Bio/About Us etc. Tacos talked about additional pages for a fee.

2. Once your consultation is complete, make a quick contract to cover what you discussed so it wont be any disapproving later on. If the customer ultimately doesn't like the logo, description or color of site theme, etc, that's all built into what you are charging. That's just good customer service. Offer limited revisions which should be stated specifically in the contract. Make sure that you dictate what you will update and revise during stated time in contract. BTW, if you outsource your logo design, depending on who you hire, they will have 5, 10, unlimited revisions so it doesnt hurt you at all.

3. This is where tacos could probably offer more assistance as I am still in infancy stages. However, if you followed the steps above, your client either has his own stuff which he owns, purchased the logo from you which he now owns and if he purchased a company bio from you that would be dictated in the contract if he owns the right to it or if you still own the right to it. Your profits will be so high that it wont matter. I think that you are over-thinking it. Remember, your expenses going in are so minimal. As tacos stated, all packages are roughly $100 per month. you can do month to month options or 3,6,12 months options. Payment should be made upfront and you might want to offer discounts. Like charging $500 for the 6 month package etc. Like Tacos said minimum should be 3 months. If customer bails after that you made profit so it doesnt matter. Customer cannot bail before because he already paid, and you stated in the contract no returns/refunds.

If client wants domain and website transferred to another site he will have to do it and handle all costs associated with that OR you can charge him for the migration :)

If the client just wants the keys to vehicle, fine, he's essentially already paid for the labor which was minimal and he owns most if not all of the intellectual property.

Many thanks, nonstopfan, for your candid answers, for your time, and for your generosity in sharing your experiences with this method! From what I see, you do yourself a disservice by categorizing yourself as being in the infant stages; not only have you taken the plunge, but, from all that we can see, you're capitalizing on this. This serves to give
the rest of us following this thread, and myself, too, a good shot of incentive. Best of continued luck!

[jonaro8]

Definitely interested in your BSO - let me know when it's avail.

[hopefull]

Thanks for the great explanation +reps

[johpg1162]

(04-25-2018 11:11 AM)tacos4san Wrote:  I hope to have it out within the next 48 hours.

It has been 26 days now - any ETA on the BSO?

[Sahama]

Nice post! Thanks for the share....

[Latiff]

Cool...thank you...