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(10-30-2022 08:20 AM)nanohits Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-29-2022 11:56 PM)activ_x Wrote: [ -> ]Not hating, but I do a lot of email marketing and there's no way the vendor can offer one time pricing without a subscription. Email marketing's constantly evolving, you have to constantly comply with ISPs, update your DKIM and SPF protocols and constantly update the software to keep up to date with other email marketing platforms..

Even self hosted solutions like Sendy or Interspire come with an annual fee for upgrades to their platforms.

One time pricing may sound good on paper but, in one's year's time when updates are necessary and there's no additional revenue to cover that.. this service will be kaput!

I've seen it a dozen times..

Thank you, but no thanks.

Wishing you the best with your BSO Op.

You do realize that we have monthly plans and users on those plans? This Lifetime deal is only for BBHF users. So maybe perhaps instead of trolling better check what we offer on monthly. THere are many lifetime deals around but if you bother to check almost all of them do have monthly plans too. It would be foolish to only offer lifetime plans to every client. But yeah you are hating without fully checking. And yes I do a ton of email marketing and have a bunch of SMTP servers I already have setup with rotating IP's.

Again, for a domain that was registered on April 24th 2022.. and expires in just one year's time, gives me the impression you have no intention of renewing the service past the expiration date.

Most autoresponder and email marketing platforms have domain registration well into double digit years in case they forget to renew or someone hijacks their domain name should they forget to renew the domain upon expiration.

Your DNS settings point to Dynadot.. a platform notorious for hiding whois details of the domain admin etc.
I've had issues with purchasing products from domains whose DNS point to Dyndot and have a case pending with them in the state of California, where they're registered.

Legit businesses hide just basic info.. not everything, including address and contact details in their whois records.

I've also searched adwords, bingads, social media etc and there's not a single ad of yours promoting the paid service..
Similarweb has no records of your traffic or referring domains.. so the monthly subscription details on your sales page are just a vanity placeholder and noone's buying the paid service.

I will apologise and eat my hat come June 2023 and your domain's still up and running and offering the same service.

Till then, I still maintain my asserton that this service will be long gone by then.

I appreciate the hustle, just not misleading folks to part with their hard-earned money.

I was very kind in my initial email.. You can prove me wrong, or we can go back and forth calling each other names.

Thank you for your time.

Again, keep trolling. The company is Moxitek.com around for many many years and we service our agency clients with many SAAS software. We have plenty of Agency clients using our services. We started the SAAS model early this year to service them in particular and have since opened things up to other clients including BBHF and BHW. Again check my profile, I have been around for a while.

But yeah kindness is not what I call in your email. It is more of a troll imo. But each to their own. But keep your assertion and that is perfectly fine and keep judging as well. I have been around long enough doing this thing and it is not a hustle.

he's not trolling. he's bringing up legit points. the only part that went a little over board is calling the service a scam indirectly saying it will probably not be around in a couple years.

i find it odd that you take offense to his legit concerns though and this only validates his concerns even further. i was trying to look in to this further myself and noticed there are no lifetime deals listed on the site. then i noticed that you had posted we have to sign up to see them.

well that's something i personally am not going to do. if a company is trying to intentionally hide things or not being fully transparent on their sales page, i find something oddly fishy about it.

i personally don't think someone is going to set up a whole platform like this just to not be around in a year, but now after everything i read and your defensive response, i have to say that i kinda agree with the dude that had the valid concerns. i have them myself now too.

i'm always looking to test new auto responder services but i am gonna have to pass on this one. maybe instead of calling people trolls who address legit concerns, you can actually just address the legit concerns. if i signed up for the service and i had legit concerns and contacted support, i would HATE to be treated like that. so to me, this is just some foresight in how support would be handled i guess....really weird.....


EDIT: UGGG. i just did some more research on this thread becasue something seemed odd about it. so i read my post i just posted and just went back a page to page 3. 99% of the posts are coming from YOU. you spam and troll your own thread more than anyone i've ever seen. talk about the pot calling the kettle black. seriously? why are you spamming your own thread? are you that desperate? you have many clients including monthly clients? then why are you acting so desperate and spamming your own thread to obviously post bump every day? your doing this while offering cheap lifetime accouts to bbhf users. you talk like it's a favor to us, but when i see someone as desperate as this, it's more of a favor to YOU if be sign up.

i have to say, this is one weird ass thread.... this is not normal behavior....


EDIT AGAIN: wow. so when i see fishy things like this, i like to research the user so that's exactly what i did after editing this post to try and confirm my suspicions of this odd behavior. well, i find out your a serial bbhf bso seller. you don't even have a niche or a lane you stay in. you are all over the place selling everything under the sun. this not only tells me about the person, but it tells me about this business you are trying to sell people here on this thread.

when someone is all over the place like this. it's hard to take whatever they are offering seriously because being all over the place like this distracts them from any other business they may be running and then what comes in to question is if the business is actually legit if a person isn't putting their heart and soul in to it because of all the other distractions the person is choosing to have.

well now after my extended research, i sorta have to agree with activex and his psychic ability to know if a company is going to be around in a couple years. like him, i hope i'm wrong but it does seem like by your history that you like to jump from one thing to another a lot. and if that's true, buying a lifetime isn't really buying a lifetime is it.

the more i research this thread and the more i dig deeper and researching you, and activex did his own research as well, the more this offer looks shady as shit.

you can call me a troll too but i was just responding to YOU. this is what propted me to do my research because you were being rude to a legit member of this forum. all you are doing is selling on it. nothing much more than that.... all i saw when i researched your threads that you created was bso after bso after bso. i am going to be doing a little more search on this because this behavior of your is intriguing and i want to understand it more...

(10-30-2022 10:30 AM)nanohits Wrote: [ -> ]Again, keep trolling. The company is Moxitek.com around for many many years and we service our agency clients with many SAAS software. We have plenty of Agency clients using our services. We started the SAAS model early this year to service them in particular and have since opened things up to other clients including BBHF and BHW. Again check my profile, I have been around for a while.

But yeah kindness is not what I call in your email. It is more of a troll imo. But each to their own. But keep your assertion and that is perfectly fine and keep judging as well. I have been around long enough doing this thing and it is not a hustle.

Look I am not going to argue with you. When you say I am spamming the thread, it is called Thread bumping. Look at all BSO's here. Every OP bumps their thread.

But it is not an issue if you dont think this is a good service, then that is up to you. Like I said earlier, all the SAAS apps we have have been for our Marketing agency clients. these lifetime deals are only for BBHF and BHW clients as we have MRR from our normal clients.

Have a good day!