(12-27-2021 10:01 AM)Vivekananda Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021 05:13 AM)California Kid Wrote: [ -> ]don't forget that trump was impeached for the january 6th incident and found innocent of everything. no crime on his part. to say he was involved with what illegal activities other people did or even incited them is going against the intensive investigations to impeach a president.
Living far away from the US, I ignore most of what's really going on in "America's" politics. But reading something like "Appeals court rejects Trump's bid to keep January 6 documents from House committee," I can't shake the suspicion that the guy IS involved in what happened on January 6th.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/09/polit...index.html
I guess living far away from the US, you also didn't get to see all the "trumped" up BS that was thrown at Trump while he was in office which was PROVEN ALL made up (as in the phony Russian Dosier and other BS) and had NOTHING to do with Trump.
If he had been a private citizen, it would have been a clear case of harassment since they kept coming after him on bogus charges and made-up accusations from discredited people....over and over again.
Many people didn't like Trump because of his "New York" attitude but his Presidential record is one of the most accomplished and beneficial to the USA. He GOT THINGS DONE (in a VERY good way) as compared to our current President who is incompetent at best and senile at worst.
People are really starting to open there eye's about the ineptitude of Pres. Biden and his admin as things are really starting to fall apart in major Liberal (Democrat run) cities across America and people are wishing they still had Trump in office. Especially with things like gas prices (that have spiked upwards because Biden shut down several domestic oil pipelines and done other idiotic "green" measures), inflation, the economy, product shortages, job loses, etc.
We have midterm elections here for our Congressman and Senator's in November and we will see who ultimately turn out to be correct as people expect to have a BIG change from Democrat to Republican due to all the F@ck Ups of the current Pres. Admin. Time will tell. And if that happens, it will also set the stage for another Trump Presidency in 2024.....Go Trump 20204~!
Interesting times, lead to interesting people.
(12-23-2021 01:14 PM)GordonShumway Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2021 03:00 AM)mthomas Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2021 01:39 PM)GordonShumway Wrote: [ -> ]
Why do we spend a huge amount of money to an Insurance company that does ZERO? Why not have all of that money go directly in to the medical system and cut those donkeys out of the picture?
Because Insurance Companies are there to help spread out the cost and keep people from losing their money due to catastrophic unforeseen circumstances (be it, medical, fire, natural disaster, etc.). They provide a valuable service and cutting them out would create much more problems and loss of investment money for required services.
Sorry, but that is crap. I got no Health Insurance in Australia and the cost was spread out to ZERO. I have gone to my GP more here in Australia than I ever have in the US and the cost is ZERO.
I have a good friend in the US. He is married and has 3 kids. He is an Electrician. His wife works part time as she is forced to as they can't keep up with the costs of life. I don't know the exact number, but I do know that his monthly medical for the family is north of 2K per month. Closer to 3K than 2K.
In my opinion, it's the huge medical lawsuits that is driving up medical costs (just ask any doctor what they pay for malpractice insurance to protect them from multi-million dollar lawsuits) and should be curtailed or better yet capped per person (along with jail for doctor's making grossly incompetent mistakes....hey, they just sentenced a truck driver to 110 years for causing a highway accident that killed several people, why not hold doctor's to the same professionalism?).
I also believe that without the runaway lawsuits (making the law firms rich at our expense) people would be able to go back to having personal doctor's on retainer as the doctor's would be able to serve this core group of families each paying the doctor personally and they would be able to provide medical services to these concierge doctor's. The doctor's can buy in or "rent" time on costly medical devices (MRI machines) as their patients really need them and would pay extra or something like that....again, I'm not an expert but a system like this (without the threat of bankrupting lawsuits) would possibly work and LOWER costs since doctor's would need to be competitive to get patients. Better doctor's could charge more, new doctor's would charge less, etc....CAPITALISM at it's best and we would still get what America does best, innovative medical enhancements, the best in the world.
You are right that people need to be held accountable for their actions, but no matter who or what you do, people make mistakes. But that doesn't explain why I can buy a pill in Canada for 1/2 the price I can buy the same pill in USA. Made by the same people... It's call collective bargaining or economies of scale. Canada does it, Australia does it... But not the US and that is one of the main reasons that the costs are so high. Not to mention the paper moving around. You go to the Doc for something, fill in all the paperwork, Pay your copay. The Doc files with someplace to collect some money from Insurance, You do the same. Maybe the insurance pays you, maybe not... The plans today are so complex, just like the tax code... it's ridiculous.
Like, pretty much all manufacturing in the US has moved out of the country. Why? It is cheaper and that is what drives Capitalism. Go to Walmart, Target, K-Mart. These are the stores that many American's shop at. Look at anything that is man made. IE, clothing, white goods (Microwaves, TVs, Washing Machines, etc), towels, curtains, etc... Nothing is made in the US.
This can be easily solved with trade tariffs and NOT because of nationalistic reasons but to LEVEL the playing field. We REQUIRE by LAW our US companies to abide by OSHA, Union, and other rules/laws to help and protect our workers that drive up the cost of OUR products while we don't hold other countries imports into America to the same standard. That isn't fair to American companies. And before you say, that's Capitalism, it's not, or we would be using slave and/or child "cheap" labor to make our products just to get the lowest cost products. I'm all for Capitalism and beating your competitor through the use of technology, better work environment, idea's, best practices but you still have to have that level playing field along with SOME government enforced rules and regulations or you would just have huge monopolies, price fixing/gouging, illegal dumping/environmental damage, and other illegal trade practices.
If it was easy to solve, they would have done it ages ago. As for tariffs, those are paid for by you. They still make the same product and sell it for the same price, it gets the added kick in price once it reaches our shores. So our Gov adds a tarrif to make it less attractive to you to buy it.... But you still do as nobody else is making it. And this is a part of the inflation thing that is going on. Not all of it as we are seeing around the world prices rising. It is a super complex issue tied in to a bunch of moving parts. Raw materials, energy consumption to manufacture and ship, distribution at the end of the chain.
So, what does this mean? We buy cheap stuff from China because they have cheap labor. China takes a large chunk of that cash and build war ships, planes, and now has the largest army in the world.
That is true ONLY in numbers of military personnel (China 2.2 million vs USA 1.4 million). In everything else, ships, planes, aircraft carriers, tanks, etc. AMERICA is still #1 in the world in military power. And spends more every year to keep it that way. Thank GOD!
China is the manufacturing hub of the world and all western Democracies are dependent on them (Communists - well sort of, but not really).
They aren't doing that well anymore, this year they have had several very large financial collapses. Not saying it's all over for them, but their growth rates have plunged even before the covid thing reared it's head (by them with an assist from Dr. Death Fauci, I might add)
A huge amount of China's GDP is in Real Estate. Chinese don't like the Stock Market and see RE as a tangible asset, so they do stuff that most of the rest of the world would not do... Like buying a Unit (Apartment/Condo) as a place to invest, but never live in it or rent it out...
The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) shot it's self in the foot when they decided to have a Trade War with Australia. And YOU and the rest of the world is feeling the effects of this. You may think Australia is a tiny player as their are more people in Metro LA than all of Australia, but natural resources are huge here. China put a ban of Aussie Coal... But Aussie has some of the best Thermal Value coal in the world and China was using Millions of tons per month. This coal was used for steal production AND power generation as most of the power in China is coal fired... Even most homes burn coal to stay warm in the winter.
This ban (and a long list of other stuff like Iron Ore, seafood, wine, etc) was put in place whne the Aussie Premiere said we should investigate the origins of COVID in the early days.
Aussie coal is super important to the Chines as many of the Electric plants on the East Coast require the high quality coal that they can only get in Australia. It is so critical for them that when they buy and use the low quality coal from other sources, the more they burn to produce electricity, the more money they loose.
So, power shortages have lead to manufacturing cuts... Combined with the CCP cracking down on a wide range of industries across the board as their leader wants to head back to the more Communistic way of doing stuff like they used to do... On top of all of that, all of the big RE Developers were crazy in debt. They sell stuff "Off the block"... Meaning that the RE craze in China was so hot for some long that people would buy property that was not built yet and would not start construction for a year or so... So stuff that was being sold now and not being built until sometime in the future was paying for stuff under construction now. Worked fine for them as long as RE prices continued to climb, but as soon as people started to worry about future prices and sales slowed down, the entire system starts to crash in on it's self... That is what we are seeing now... And it's just the early days. (If you think inflation is bad now... Mark my words, things are going to get much, much worse, IE more expensive)
China has a very different dynamic on the way things work compared to the way we are used to in the West. I know many Chinese here in Australia and they approach things very different than the way we (Westerners) do.
Trump gave a huge tax cut to people that make a lot of money, but did zero to help the average American.
I don't know where you get your information from but according to IRS tax records, the tax cut lowered taxes for all income groups, provided the greatest benefits for middle-income households, and spurred economic growth that helped reduce poverty and improve prosperity....(taken from http://www.thehill.com article)
I prefer to read: https://www.investopedia.com/taxes/trump...explained/
Early in the article they talk about people paying more and getting less back while Corporate tax dropped to 21% flat....
I am "retired" but I own nothing. All of my assets have legally been moved in to trusts and companies. Bottom line, my assets went up and having been going up over the last 15 years while my taxes are going down and reached zero a few years ago.
I own nothing, but control everything.
It's not hard to do once you have a bit of wealth to set some of this stuff up and once you have it in place, it just grows and grows if you are not stupid. Really, I am not mad Trump did what he did. Was great for me and screwed 95% of Americans. I grew up poor, worked my ass of of may years, paid huge amount of tax until I started doing what the wealthy are doing and once that kicked in, I went from hard working to retired in less than 5 years. And my lifestyle has gotten better every year since as all of my stuff grows pretty much tax free.
The prosperity gap is increasing, not decreasing and during the pandemic it has accelerated even more. The Trump tax cuts are permanent for the wealthy and fixed term for the average Joe. Each year they get smaller and smaller for Joe...
So, I am a Republican, but I am an old school one. I like less Government. This means that for Abortion, the Government should leave it up to the person and not be telling them what they should be doing with their bodies.
I can 100% agree with you here, LESS Government is a GOOD thing...(Unlike, long bread lines, that Bernie Sanders said was a "good thing"). I'd start with abolishing the Dept. of Education (what the hell do they even do? Student grades have been decreasing for years now not increasing, so why do we pay these people?).
I am not a big anti-abortion advocate; however the issue isn't about the woman's body it's about killing another human being that is living inside a woman's body. She was the one that had sex and took the chance of creating another life, therefore she should be held responsible to delivering that human being whether she wants it or not, as she can always give the baby up for adoption. There are many people on waiting lists to get a new born baby and today there is NO excuse for getting pregnant if you don't want to, birth control, abstinence, multi-year implants, pills, condoms, etc.
That is funny. First Republicans want to ban sex ed in schools. Then we have people that are having trouble putting food on the table, but they should buy health insurance so they can go to see a GP and get a prescription to buy overpriced birth control. WOW, that is some great argument.
I have sat around the dinner table and had this same discussion. See Republicans want to "Save the life", but once the baby is born, you are on your own. No help with school, food programs, buy your expensive insurance, day care so you can get a job... But as soon as the kid is old enough, you then are happy to have them join the Military. Fight for the country. Be Honorable... But get hurt or leave and once again, you are on your own... Then when you are old, No medicare, why fund that? And Social Security, nope. When you were barely able to feed your family, you should have been putting enough away to fund your retirement AND pay for the nursing home as you get older... LOL
Most people don't have enough assets to retire when they want to. Things are just getting more and more expensive during the working years and in to retirement. Average savings are way down and continue to fall.
Do I think vaccines work? Yep... The numbers are in and they are working. But I do not think people should be forced to take it. If you want to run around, party, wear no mask and not get vaccinated. That is your choice. Do I think you are stupid and going to get Covid... Yep. It's a hard topic... Because you being stupid puts others at risk and is crushing our hospital workers... Not sure where your personal freedom is more valuable than the rights of others.
I sort of agree with you here as I am NOT against vaccines, although I do NOT see the Covid vaccines as working all that much. They do NOT protect you against getting or spreading the virus AT ALL. Again, that is the science. They claim for those most at risk of death to help them, great, but so do drugs like monoclonal anti-bodies and other's. There is a definite risk with these vaccines/boosters and they are NOT communicating this to the public as they are required to do. These drugs have NOT been FDA approved (they have been emergency approved, that's different than the FDA approval which requires long term testing to take place) and we have no data on long term side effects. I also agree that these vaccines should only be made available to those that want to assume the risk of taking them. (and people should be made aware of ALL the associated risks they might have when getting them, just like you hear in any other drug that is marketed on TV) Making them mandatory is, given the data, unscientific, dangerous, not statistically supported (for those in the low risk age groups) and in my opinion unconstitutional (an over reach of Government authority). One more point, if you haven't listened to Dr. Peter McCullough's interview with Joe Rogan you might want to check that out. Just one point from him, he claims with the proper administration of available drugs, Ivermectin, Monoclonal Anti-bodies, Iodine wash, etc., up to 85% of the people who died from Covid would still be alive today, if that turns out to be correct, then Dr. Death Fauci and all the other's that restricted these drugs to hospital patients should be brought up on charges against humanity!!!!
Yep, the vaccines may not protect you from Getting or Spreading Covid, but they sure help you from Dying from it or ending up in the hospital. Global numbers show that. Many people refuse to get the shot or wear a mask... It is just a matter of time before we get a version that is so deadly that it wipes out a huge percentage of the population.
You mentioned that the Constitution said the Right To bare Arms, but nothing about Licenses... You are right on that... But you got to admit that was written a long time ago and our forefathers could not foresee a lot of the stuff tech would bring to us.
So I guess using that logic we should also throw out the First Amendment for things like TV, Radio, Internet, blogs, videos, etc because all they had in 1787 were public criers and newspapers, right? The 2nd Amendment was written to protect us from both foreign and domestic tyrannical government threats and is just as relevant today as it was when it was first written by the founding fathers.
Again, funny you say that. Trump is the only person in American history that tried to be a Tyrant and stay in power. Hell, he is still trying to do it today. If he was successful, would you be storming the Capital with your AK 47 to stop him and the rest of the people that worked to overthrow our system?
Their is nothing in the Constitution about Fishing Licensees, Driving Licenses, Pilot Licensees, Seat belts, Speed limits, or a long list of other stuff. If I have the right to buy ANY weapon, why can't I Stinger Missile? Maybe those nasty politicians you are so worried about will be coming in planes and I need to protect my apartment... How about Uranium Depleted Armour Piercing shells? We use those all the time to punch holes in enemy armour... I want some...ME TOO! LOL
The argument that we need these to protect ourselves from the Government just doesn't hold water. If it is the Politicians, just the handguns and hunting rifles in Texas would wipe them out... If it is the Military, even you have an AK 47, I don't think you stand a chance against tanks and Apache helicopters, Reaper Drones, etc.
Hmmmm, I guess you never heard of the Vietnam War? We kinda lost that one against a bunch of rice pickers using AK-47's. And don't forget much of the US Military is from places like Texas, and I doubt they will be the ones shooting citizens on orders from the DC Socialists/Communists should anything go that way...just saying.
First off, I don't like the term "rice pickers"... But, when you country is being invaded from the outside, you tend to fight like hell as the only option is that or death. What you are talking about is us fighting us. Our Government (us) fighting against the people (us). Hard for me to really believe that some President (Democratic or Republican) is going to order the Military to take over Texas, or Florida, or California and the Military is going to say, "sure, you are the President and we (Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines - the people of the USA) think you are right and we should go stomp on them"... Really, that is what you are worried about and think you need your AK-47 to stop it?
BUT, I am NOT saying take them away. I am say Register them. If you obey the law, own them. If you are a criminal, sorry, no legal guns for you and if you get caught with one, back to prison you go.
I already covered this, you claim to be a student of history and HISTORY tells us that
Gun Registration is the first step in confiscating guns by a tyrannical government....NO THANKS. I choose to learn from history, and NOT repeat it!
Most crimes in the US are done with handguns and not AK-47's or M16's so it's not even a real issue, just a BS propaganda one put on by the corrupt media whose agenda is to confiscate all guns (like in Australia). Again, NO THANKS!
Yep, most crimes are... But look at the school shootings. Most are done with Assault weapons. As for those "tyrannical governments". You are right in that the Australian Government asked people to give up most of their guns (you can still get a gun here if you need one)... But nothing changed in the Government. They didn't take over and start implementing draconian measures... And guess what. Violent crime is way less than the USA. How about England? Guns are restricted and most Cops don't carry... But again, how many mass shootings do you see on the nightly news. Most of Europe, Canada, India, hell, almost every democracy on the planet has some type of restriction on weapons except the USA and guess what. The highest kill rate from those types of weapons is the USA.
You are right... Guns don't kill people. People with the rights to carry any type of gun unrestricted kill people.
I said it above and I'll say it again, and keep on saying it. Trump LOST. And I am waiting for all the facts to come out, but what I have seen so far is NOT looking good. If he and his cohorts were behind Jan 6 and were doing all these other things to crash Democracy, he deserves to go to prison... For a long time.
Just like with the zero evidence and made up Russian collusion BS "investigation" against Trump, this also is a big NOTHING. Trump had NOTHING to do with this and will proven true once the Trump haters run out of lies and hot air. They FEAR him returning to the White House in 2024 and will know he is the one person that can ruin their entire Socialist/Communist agenda. You might not like the guy and even think he was rude/crude and vulgar but he put America first and was/is a true patriot. Can you say the same thing about Pelosi, Hillary, Obama, Biden, Schumer, Schiff, Swalwell, AOC, Waters, etc.???????????? Many of them despise America through both their words and actions and some of them are outright Socialists and/or Communists. And if you think that is good for America or our Democracy then you really need to read more history!!!!!
Lots of Text messages, Powerpoint plans on how to subjugate the results, phone calls to pressure State Level Secretaries to "Find the votes" or "Change the Electors". Now if it was a big nothing, why plead the 5th? I know you think those evil Democrats will use your own words against you. Yep... And your documents and your text messages. Why is Trump fighting so hard to keep the White House archived documents secret and away from Congress? Why is he still not allowing access to his Taxes just like every other President has since the mid 70s? His own words, "I will show them when the audit is over"... 5 years, no taxes.
I am not really worried about Trump running in 2024. I think he will be either in court or jail by then.
As for the Socialist system you are so worried about. It is coming whether you like it or not. Self driving vehicles, robots, and AI are going to put 95% of us out of work. Then what?
My girlfriend is the Principle Engineer that designs most of the Mobile Phone towers here in Australia. Free standing and also the ones that are on the top of buildings. Just in the last 5 years, what used to take 9 full time people in her office is now done by 1 person. Less mistakes, faster work, and better designs as software and hardware if constructed right don't make mistakes.
Every air plane, ship, truck, and car is not that far away from not needing people to operate. Soon the manufacturing, loading, shipping, unloading, delivery will all be done by machines.
I could go on and on just about this topic, but we are on the cusp of a huge change in the way people work (or not work) and the way society functions. When you have 95% plus of the population without work, then those social programs that you dislike will be the standard thing that all people will be using. Like it or not, it is coming, and faster than you think.
Max reps and thanks...BIGLY...to Gordon Shumway for 1) having the temerity and patience to hang in to this 'discussion' w/o just telling MThomas where to go with that right wing propaganda.
2) Laying out the facts that 60+ courts and 100's of peoples testimonies have already proven.
Congrats again. I wouldn't have had the patience for near as long as you did. I have zero interest in dialog with ANYONE who still supports this career criminal. ZERO INTEREST. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who still supports him is a traitor to this county. FULL.STOP.
Great job Gordon.
Commander Chaos is a career criminal. Has been a criminal ALL HIS LIFE. Been in bed with La Costra Nosa until the Russian mob came in and usurped their power (in NYC anyway). Rump jumped right into bed with them (Really the Kazarian mafia, but nuances don't really matter here) So you put stock in Sean Hannity? Yea rite! The same Hannity who was calling Rump and his team on 1/3 and 1/4 with his "concerns about 1/6". What concerns do you think he had? Yea, he knew what was coming, and failed the US by not exposing it. Then went on a propaganda campaign backing the big lie until it was no longer tenable for FOX (NOT because they care about the truth), but because up and coming loon job right wingers NewsMax and OAN were pulling viewers away. Mainly because FOX wasn't fringe enough for their audience. It's obvious, when YOU call roughly 2 billion Asian's 'rice pickers' and all Democrats socialists/commies/facists/etc ad nauseum.; that you're not interested in dialog, just pushing right wing conspiracies and talking points that fit your demeanor, which is right wing fascistic in nature.
Rump has done EXACTLY, and more; than Clinton when it comes to 'her emails'. Except he coerced and bullied dozens within his own administration to ignore subpeona's during his time in office and continues to this day. What happened to Rumps' own declaration in 2015..."Nobody pleads the 5th unless they have something to hide" The dirtbag couldn't answer 1/2 dozen 'semi-hard' questions w/o berating and threatening those who asked those questions. Hillary Clinton sat in hearings for 11 STRAIGHT HOURS of withering Republican attacks, and did that thru 7 investigations over Benghazi. Rump can't even answer a simple question w/o losing his sh*t at anything that isn't lathering praise all over his childish, incompetent *ss.
Yea, criminals love this guy. He's a case study in how to commit crimes and use the 'system' (Roy Cohn ring a bell?) to beat the rap. Now he has to explain Presidential documents he took to Mar i Lago (15 boxes worth, we know about), and the ones he flushed down the toilet while still in office.
I have family members who worked for or contracted with him. I have first hand knowledge of what a douche bag he is and has always been. He got 9% of the vote in NYC in 2020. Why? Because even most of those criminals knew he'd gone to far. And that was before 1/6. We're all into Internet marketing here, so finding things like 'whois' data isn't a mystery to us. Well, StopTheSteal-org was setup in Feb. 2016. They planned this from the beginning. That's forward planning and foreknowledge. THEY knew what they were willing to do to get into and stay in power. Rump has no intention of running in 2024. SAD, BIGLY! Nah, he's just on his final grift. Taking as many dollars from the suckers that he can. Why is the RNC paying his legal bills, while he's sitting on millions of their supporters cash? Because he's a conman grifter. Always has been, always will be.
(12-12-2021 05:37 AM)California Kid Wrote: [ -> ]haha good thread and a good balance. i bet layna is regretting helping biden get elected now after she was anti trump. i mean. who in their right mind would think biden is physically and mentally fit? they talked about trump not being mentally fit? WOA! big difference. and we all know by now that any socialist supporting biden now is the literal enemy of this country right now.
i predicted a circus show a year ago and that's EXACTLY what we've been getting. can you believe it's only been a year? seems a lot longer for some reason. i try to stay out of the news as much as possible now after realizing the next 3 years wont be any different. my mental health has gone up dramatically! every once in a while, i will pipe in with a political comment. but what's the point of that anymore.
i just appreciated the post and the balance this post has on the forum. good for you!
Rump had trouble walking down a relatively modest ramp. Biden rides his bike nearly everyday (when he rides) and does so for miles. Rump is lucky if he can get on a bike w/o falling on his face. PS: Don't bother with Biden slipped on the steps up to Air Force One. So have many other President's, and it's WAY STEEPER than that disabled folks ramp, Rump could barely navigate.
Rump actually hoped to take Biden out during the debates, as he went KNOWING he had Covid. Why do you think he was mad about the plastic barriers for the debate? Those of us who know him, know why. He'd throw his own mother under the bus if it got him what he wanted.
Biden gave a press conference for over 90 minutes last month. Was very cogent, thoughtful and illistrative in his answers. (Ok, except for the royal screw up on Russia and "if it's only a small invasion) But hey, no one's perfect, right? Just ask Donnie "Putin says he didn't do it" Gump. So EVERYONE except Putin was lying I suppose. Again, Yea Rite!
Last comment for this reply, I'm sick of being called a socialist and a commie because I don't support a career criminal. You might want to check the mirror for collaborators in a treasonous attempt to 'steal' the election he lost.
(12-27-2021 10:01 AM)Vivekananda Wrote: [ -> ] (12-15-2021 05:13 AM)California Kid Wrote: [ -> ]don't forget that trump was impeached for the january 6th incident and found innocent of everything. no crime on his part. to say he was involved with what illegal activities other people did or even incited them is going against the intensive investigations to impeach a president.
Living far away from the US, I ignore most of what's really going on in "America's" politics. But reading something like "Appeals court rejects Trump's bid to keep January 6 documents from House committee," I can't shake the suspicion that the guy IS involved in what happened on January 6th.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/09/polit...index.html
Unless you were born during the Rump administration, you know full well impeachment is purely a political trial, and the Senate Republicans weren't about to throw their gravy train Captain under any buses. There was no INNOCENCE involved. It was strictly a partisan trial, and almost all of us knew the Republicans were never going to convict. If anyone was surprised at this, they are either clueless, wantonly ignorant about the process, or support the Grifter-In-Chief 'no matter what' he does.
I see darkweb has gone full Trump derangement syndrome even though Trump hasn't been in office in over a year and we have seen the complete and utter disaster of a single year of the Democrats Biden/Harris Admin.
It's almost laughable how you can demonize a person that was 100% patriotic for the USA, increased the country's economy, kept gas prices low and opened up new oil fields/pipelines to make the US energy independent and gas prices low, was trying to keep out illegals/terrorists/etc. from our southern border, kept Russia/N. Korea/China and other Communist/Socialist/Dictator's in check and did almost everything he said he was going to do when campaigning.
Compare that to the absolute train wreck of the mentally challenged and incompetent Biden/Harris duo fiasco and Trump was truly one of the best US Presidents the US ever had.
Your inane comment, ""As far as I'm concerned, anyone who still supports him is a traitor to this county. FULL.STOP." is comical given the anti US propaganda and Socialist/Communist rantings made every day by Democrats in all levels of Government.....including support for antifa, blm, crt in schools, defund the police, allowing illegals to cross the border in record numbers, no bail reforms, criminal releases by Dem DA's, and anti Constitution movements (abolish 2nd amendment rights, limit 1st amendment rights, mandatory vaccinations, deciding who gets shots based on skin color, packing the Supreme Court, etc.), stop oil production/pipelines, runaway inflation, policies that hurt the nuclear family and continue to be the causes of crime/poverty/gangs, etc., and so many other idiotic policies and "utopian" socialist economic schemes (all sure to FAIL, as they do in every Communist/Socialist country that implements them). Don't forget all the homeless clogged, crap on the sidewalk and crime plagued Democrat run cities ruining the country and allowing BLM/Antifa rioters to burn down entire city blocks, shot cops, car jack, murder and steal from stores in broad daylight with little or no repercussions...
The BEST thing about Trump is that he IS going to run again in 2024 and maybe against Hillary again, that should explode a lot of Democrat/Socialist/Communist/Progressive/Fascist heads when he wins a second term in the White House!!! I thought all those Hollywood celebrities were all going to move out of the USA if Trump got elected? Maybe they will do that in 2024? But they will probably have to do it from Texas or Tennessee or Florida since they are all moving out of the Democrat controlled states, LOL!
He will of course have to undo all of Biden's FAILED and incompetent policies so that we can get this country back on track again and Make America Great AGAIN!
Seems to me that if anyone is a traitor it would be the Democrats who are now backing the Socialists/Communists within their own party who are actively trying (see the above list) to destroy this country and if you can't see that you are either living with blinders on or are simply a "useful idiot" and continue to watch the propaganda put out by those dying media "giants", CNN, MSNBC, etc. Or perhaps just vote like your father did and can't see what the Democrat party has become?
Will be real interesting to see how the dementia-addled President Biden handles the US Truckers protest against mandatory vaccinations (by firings, passports, etc.), masks, and lock downs that is coming to D.C. shortly.....not to mention Russia in the Ukraine, N. Korea firing rockets, China attacking Taiwan (not sure on this yet, I think they are waiting to see what happens in the Ukraine first but they know this is their best shot with a weak, incompetent President in office) and other international issues that he doesn't have a clue about....I guess he can send the smartest person he knows....Hunter Biden (lol), that is after he gets his new, FREE, government issued crack pipe!
PS - If anyone deserved to go to jail it was Hillary Clinton who was caught red handed destroying emails, phones, maintaining an illegal server outside of the government which housed top secret documents in an unsecure manner, the Trump dossier and of course her bungling, incompetent and disastrous Benghazi fiasco (maybe not illegal but certainly incompetent and should have gotten her fired as Secretary of State on the spot).
You're actually funny GS......
I guess you must be one of the elites since you have no perception of what is going on in Biden's "utopia".....
Cities burning from BLM/Antifa riots, Cops being defunded and murdered all over the country, Afghanistan debacle (why isn't Biden impeached [or SHOT for treason] for arming our enemies with $BILLIONS of ADVANCED military weapons?), homeless drug addicts and psycho's crapping, living in tents, shooting up (with new gov't issued crack pipes too! Thanks Biden), and of course robbing, pushing on trains, spitting, knifing and murdering innocent people on their way to work (especially Asian women, so add cowards to their list of despicable actions), runaway inflation - highest in 50 years, sky high gas prices due to the idiotic, incomprehensible and illogical stopping of US oil pipelines and oil fields, highest numbers of illegals crossing the Southern border (and potentially infected as they weren't tested for Covid or any other communicable disease before they were flown all over the country in clandestine illegal nighttime flights and allowed to live in the country ILLEGALLY), supply chain fiasco once again thanks to his unscientific, unconstitutional mandatory vaccinations (or lose your job, or rights, etc.) and lockdowns/masks, racist and divisive CRT in schools, teaching anti American BS in our colleges and military, trying to pack the Supreme Court and subvert both the 1st and 2nd amendments (who is a threat to Democracy now?) and of course let's not forget all the times good 'ol Joe has lied, plagiarized, made racist comments, forgot key events/topics/numbers/family members, sniffed women's hair, felt up children, forgot what he was talking about, made gaff after gaff in press conferences, and of course has one of the lowest approval ratings of any President...heck, he might even turn out to be much worse than either Carter or Obama.....I know it's a close race, but time will tell.
Personally, I'm kind of confident that Joe will take the prize (Let's Go Brandon!) as his mental cognition seems to be deteriorating by the day....not saying I want that, as his successor, knee pads Harris is an even more incompetent, inexperienced, do nothing, know nothing disaster, and that's really saying something as she ISN'T suffering from dementia. (as far as we know...)
Can't wait until Trump wins again in 2024 and all you Democrats, oh, I'm sorry, I meant to say Socialists/Communists/Progressives/Fascist's IN the Democrat Party all blow your tops or move to Canada (although depending on how this truckers freedom ride plays out, you might not be welcome there anymore....I've heard Cuba or Venezuela is nice this time of year and they have a 100% literacy rate there as per the Communist propaganda, just be sure bring your own books unless you like reading Marx over and over again).
TRUMP 2024!
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Waters in 2024...
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Another one just for you GS...just like the Kennedy dynasty, right?
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(02-16-2022 02:03 PM)GordonShumway Wrote: [ -> ]
Thank you for finally acknowledging my natural superiority!
Just like an "elite" to egotistically and irrationally think they are of a superior stock. Sounds like you might have delusions of grandeur and shades of superiority complex (might want to visit a shrink to get that checked out, pal), no wonder you Dem's use projection when talking about all those white supremacy groups burning down the cities and murdering Asians... oh wait that isn't happening is it...it's the libtards on the left and in Commie groups like BLM and Antifa doing that. Sucks when the facts aren't on your side doesn't it.
You Dem's, sorry, I meant to say Socialists/Communists/Progressives/Fascists (want to get it correct) in the Democratic Party can say, lie, yell, cry, babble, and spew all the Socialist/Communist propaganda you want, the regular people in this Great Country are starting to open their eyes and see you and those like you for the frauds, liars, useful idiots and evil, anti-American, undemocratic, anti-constitutional charlatans you really are.
Can't wait for Trump to be re-elected and undo all the damage sleepy Joe and knee pad Harris have done to this Great Country and people like you will once again, try to make up lie's, fabricate evidence, harass and say anything no matter how outrageous or libelous it might be because you just can't stand a true patriot making America Great Again!
Don't worry GS, you can slither back into your hole once Trump is President AGAIN in 2024 and continue to suffer the effects of your Trump Derangement Syndrome spouting your delusional rants and contentious propaganda no matter how ridiculous or full of lies and made up nonsense because in Trumps America we will still have FREE speech, Freedom to own Legal firearms and protect ourselves, Freedom to peacefully protest (NOT burn down cities), Freedom from vaccine mandates, Freedom to voice differing opinions without being canceled, and security from runaway record breaking crime, illegals, foreign energy prices, no-bail released career criminals, unstocked shelves and idiotic/racist CRT in our schools/colleges/military.
I wonder when Time will put Trump on their cover.....oh, look they already did!
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