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Awesome MRAIN.. you saved me a possible fight with the wife.

Thanks mrain! I just woke up and was going to setup a GB when I saw your post.

Max reps my friend and thanks for sharing!

Thanks Guys!!! Best forum, best people! I was all ready to chip in for this and BAM! There it is.
Big thanks again to ALL teh uploaders.

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(01-30-2016 03:24 AM)triton20man Wrote: [ -> ]Midastouch... File is gone...

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Any more reviews?
In the real world I do think you might find the "old" lists to be small or pretty much a lot of bounces

How does this guy think you will track the "sales from the letter"....software....a call program (monitor, record all calls on a given program phone number?)....how can you track results?

JMO any sort of "lead sales" or profit sharing ONLY works on higher ticket numbers...
get 25 percent of a pizza or a haircut? LOL...no thanks 25 percent of a new swim pool or a remodel job yeah - worth it

However....biz owner are tricky....once they see u have made them money they will want their nephew to take over the (stale) elist

I just had a delusional former client ask me to "show" his daughter who just graduated college in dec some of my "tricks"....LOL....yeah right
He wants her to take over his marketing - social, email, blog graphics..blah blah

yeah pay me like you paid her university or dream on haha

I've only looked at the letter and the customer reactivation videos.

IMHO the letter is too long. I'd cut it to one page focusing on big benefit and strong call to action.

The customer reactivation videos give a reasonable overview. I'd suggest Bob Serling's effort is better and more cut and paste and would get a beginner started faster.

Discounting is lazy marketing. I always look at the best sellers and what could be sold or offered as a bonus along side. Discounts attract price conscious buyers who have little loyalty. Good value and an understanding of the customer attracts a more loyal customer base. Sometime you can buy in a bonus to add to the offer, which will be enough to encourage a purchase. The key is to test and find what gives the biggest return for the smallest outlay.

IMHO his clients are too small. OK to start with and practice, however once you're confident in selling and negotiation, I'd move up to larger businesses. It's no more effort to send an email to 100,000 or 1,000,000 buyers than it is to send to a few hundred or few thousand, however you make more money :-)

I don't quite understand his pricing. Our standard is a retainer plus 20% of the incremental profit. i.e. (sales amount - cost of fulfilment - cost of campaign). Fixed costs of the business don't come into it.

My main business is customer reactivations and JVs. If the client needs websites and other stuff, I'd outsource/JV the extras. Build a rolodex of good people and refer or subcontract the work.

Tracking is done by coupon codes, separate telephone numbers, POS entries, package names, unique pricing - whatever works for you and the client. Agreement contains auditing rights. Also get on their list, ideally with an anonymous email address. Once you've got some successful campaigns, you'll have a feel for the numbers.

I've never detected anyone attempting to rip me off, however, I use gut instinct a lot and I'm selective who I'll work with. I don't think gut instinct can be taught, you learn through experience :-)

Key is to retain ownership of the campaigns. Agreement is that if they use your campaigns, they pay.

That's all I can think of at the moment...

(01-30-2016 09:22 PM)Animal88 Wrote: [ -> ]I've only looked at the letter and the customer reactivation videos.

IMHO the letter is too long. I'd cut it to one page focusing on big benefit and strong call to action.

The customer reactivation videos give a reasonable overview. I'd suggest Bob Serling's effort is better and more cut and paste and would get a beginner started faster.

Discounting is lazy marketing. I always look at the best sellers and what could be sold or offered as a bonus along side. Discounts attract price conscious buyers who have little loyalty. Good value and an understanding of the customer attracts a more loyal customer base. Sometime you can buy in a bonus to add to the offer, which will be enough to encourage a purchase. The key is to test and find what gives the biggest return for the smallest outlay.

IMHO his clients are too small. OK to start with and practice, however once you're confident in selling and negotiation, I'd move up to larger businesses. It's no more effort to send an email to 100,000 or 1,000,000 buyers than it is to send to a few hundred or few thousand, however you make more money :-)

I don't quite understand his pricing. Our standard is a retainer plus 20% of the incremental profit. i.e. (sales amount - cost of fulfilment - cost of campaign). Fixed costs of the business don't come into it.

My main business is customer reactivations and JVs. If the client needs websites and other stuff, I'd outsource/JV the extras. Build a rolodex of good people and refer or subcontract the work.

Tracking is done by coupon codes, separate telephone numbers, POS entries, package names, unique pricing - whatever works for you and the client. Agreement contains auditing rights. Also get on their list, ideally with an anonymous email address. Once you've got some successful campaigns, you'll have a feel for the numbers.

I've never detected anyone attempting to rip me off, however, I use gut instinct a lot and I'm selective who I'll work with. I don't think gut instinct can be taught, you learn through experience :-)

Key is to retain ownership of the campaigns. Agreement is that if they use your campaigns, they pay.

That's all I can think of at the moment...

Hello, you keep referring to Bob Serling, please which of his course are you talking about and can i get a download link here. Thanks. I can see you are making a lot of sense and you know your onion

(01-30-2016 09:30 PM)casdon Wrote: [ -> ]Hello, you keep referring to Bob Serling, please which of his course are you talking about and can i get a download link here. Thanks. I can see you are making a lot of sense and you know your onion

Just search on Bob Serling, you'll get loadsa stuff :-)

His version is Million Dollar Licensing. His Million Dollar JVs is similar and compliments his licensing course. Start with customer reactivations (licensing) as you're only dealing with one party. Once you have a relationship established with a list owner, it's pretty easy to get product owners onboard for JVs...

These's a better course coming - mine! :-) (That's if I ever learn how to teach)

@Animal88 - thanks for the tips. I'd be interested in your course ;)