oh. also, if you research this guy on the warrior forum, he is a serial wso creator and abandons his shit and leaves his customers wanting refunds he refuses to give. he also has many infractions given by multiple members from illegal wso's and insulting members.
since this is about list building my advice is to spend an average of about $1 per subscriber and build your own list(don't buy someone elses). .40 a click with a 40% optin rate is $1 per subscriber. it's an acceptable industry standard that you can make about $1 per person per month on your list if you are email marketing properly so you recoop your investment after a month at the very least.
you have a chance to build rapport with your list, you will get A LOT better open rates which lead to more clicks and sales on average.
the drawback is the initial money you invest in building a list but if you can make back your investment in a month, that issue is a moot point when you are seeing A LOT beter results on average than buying a list where you will have low open rates and have a very high chance of being accused of spam. not to mention,, when you buy a list, there is no gaurantee that a major autoresponder will accept it so your only other alternative is to self host which costs a lot more money than the list you bought and wanted to market to.
Bullshit. Another fu*cker. The technique described violates the terms of service of most autoresponder services, like Aweber, GetResponse, Imnica Mail. Stay away.
Haaa, his signature for "free solo ads" used to go to a getresponse survey form ...now it goes to a getresponse default page, I'm betting he got banned from Getresponse
(06-23-2015 02:51 AM)California Kid Wrote: [ -> ].40 a click with a 40% optin rate is $1 per subscriber. it's an acceptable industry standard that you can make about $1 per person per month on your list if you are email marketing properly so you recoop your investment after a month at the very least.
Where do you get $0.40 clicks? Adwords? Bing?
Wow... that WSO sales thread is blowing up with name calling now... lol
My personal opinion
Did not tried it yet, as i do not want risk my getresponse shhiit, but definitely will do, probably next month to promote a new website (cheap membership).
The guy has all the right to defend him self on the wf, and he is 100% right to say that people prefer to complain then acting. trying to find solutions, seems many want the food and a help to chew the food too.
It's like always asking does this or that work!!! if you do not try you wont find out, nobody is a clone of anybody and we all think in a different way somehow, even if we just talk about apples or eggs.
I read all the posts there (on wf)
HiM OFFERING A MAIL SERVER
is a bit weird, but understandable as he found a way to get 100k emails and send without limits etc etc.
HE TELLING PEOPLE TO STOP SAYING ITS SPAM
yep 100% right, i agree with him, as he provided 2 big companies websites that sell emails.
People on that thread should focus on trying to find a solution or an autoresponder that will accept the import.
The guy, offered a solution apparently but it's just for those who bought the wso (on his new email server apparently)
SO
People should start to think out of the box.
As he said its not because of 2 or 3 big autoresponders have them TOS about importing emails, that the idea dies, there are plenty of others out there, if not the VPS mentioned solution is doable.
a member repeating 2 times a post saying a domain + simple vps of 1gb = 17usd.
MY EXPERENCE WITH GETRESPONSE
last year i was freelancing for an 11 years old B2B training company, they trained the biggest names out there, from honda, airasia even close government staff, even national banks etc etc (not in usa).
Get response refused the import of 12000 emails (all of them real clients that already used the company services), real people.
We argued with them for weeks, nothing.
SOLUTION
A paid pro email pc soft + a dedicated domain and a mail server, that costed yes mostly in time to understand how it works, but at least now, my ex clients have a permanent solution.
EDIT FORGET MY 2ND EXPERIENCE WITH GETRESPONSE
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Recently i imported around 3000 emails from a DEAD EMAIL list i had on mailchmp, basically emailed that list like 5 times 2 years ago for an ecommerce website, and nothing since then, dgetresponse system refused the import, but after a talk with the support, they agreed, id didn't invent any story, i just asked why they refuse and the guy couldn't give me a reason.
pS: In fact the email list was not of subscribers, it was extracted from a database of an abandoned forum talking about ecommerce in china.
now my list is alive again for ANOTHER ecommerce website, sent a test mail, 500 by 500 and it worked.
See who dont try, never get
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So you see, getresponse is not the god of emails, it's a private company that defend it self against spam, doesn't mean they are right n all cases.
BUYING EMAILS IS A LEGIT BUSINESS, USING THEM IS LEGIT
SPAMMING/ SENDING UNSOLICITED EMAILS TO THOSE WHO NEVER SUBSCRIBED ANYWHERE IS NOT LEGIT
There's a big difference.
OTHER AUTORESPONDER, LESS KNOWN THAT MAY WORK.
Note: getresponse may allow if you import by small numbers, just contact them before.
ps: contact the support before importing or doing anything.
trafficwave . net
sendfree .com
imnicamail .com
And plenty other, do not ask, i wll not chew the food for you, google is you best friend in this case.
OTHER WAYS (NOT TESTED) TO USE THE EMAILS
FB audience is one of them, n stead of just paying for ads to general keywords, why not try those who subscribed less than 72h to something.
i know i know it's vague but still, nobody tried that.
ANYONE WITH AN IDEA HOW TO USE THIS EMAILS, please share.
For once we have a fresh (72 hours emails) and if we focus on finding ways to use them, i'm pretty sure we will come up with something realistic
Good luck to everyone.
Peace, that was just my 2 cents.
Repped ya tupac, agree with you 100% there.
I was a bit quick to conclude on this method, I think the idea is well worth a try at the least.
I might give this a go and see if it works, after all its all about trying different methods and sticking with some that actually produces some results and then refine those "some" methods
Thanks cash for the rep.
Yes, there is a way to use these emails, we just have to scratch our head a little.
In anyway is 1000000000000 times better than a shiiity spammy list bought from fiverr or elsewhere (collected using soft).
Let us know if you came up with way or test any other autoresponder.
Best of work (luck has nothing to do with this lol)
Peace
If you have vip access just download this here:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...adFast-PRO
Self hosted AR that lets you import, send through mandrill up to 10k a month for free
Great deliverability and will prob try it next month.
You can also search for other self hosted AR on the forums if you don't have vip access, I'm sure you'll find one on here somewhere.