LOL>>> one thing to remember about any of these "courses" is that in the real world it will be harder to do than the way they make it sound.
However, I do think there is benefit in this and the other goodies that MassBlack kindly shared, and I left a longer review in review section.
I do have ties to a great wholesale printer in my area and it is a nice sideline moneymaker, selling printing is still viable.
The problem with some of this stuff is they make it sound too easy. Still you can learn alot here. Thanks
There is some truth to this and he would be a fool to not offer a service inside of a product that people could use.
He (Jake) doesn't print himself though, he is a print broker.
His services are not in the savings (although for some a savings is realized) its really in the servicing of the files your working with. He and his staff will spot and double check your work. Whether its a simple a brochure, biz card, postcard, 9x12, M3 ETC. The only physical work he really provides is bundle "rubber band" for EDDM and shrink wrap, I believe.
That said, I have done a dozen plus 9 x 12's a ton of M3's with only one printed by Jake (my first). Since then I became set up as a print broker with a few of the biggest wholesale print shops in the US.
He (Jake) can't beat their prices because he uses them too. But again, his real benefit is in the hand holding he does. More than a few people I know online and have personally spoke with over the past 3 years could care less about the dime he makes on his services and they use to their advantage his services (hand holding) to ensure a proper send out....
Those are my experiences.
MasssBlack
(06-05-2015 04:37 PM)moser Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 09:04 AM)LeggyAnita Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 05:22 AM)midastouch Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 05:03 AM)gwendoleea1 Wrote: [ -> ]Where's the full review?:(
Do you want chips with that?
F*** off.
ha ha lol!
my reveiw, bob ross comes up with new products all t time, that im sure is just the benitfit for himself
ie sent me your printing i'll beat any price!
i did get 1 tip from this course, but if you have read a lot of offline stuff its nothing new
oh and thx massblack
Most of his products are just a "hidden" pitch for his printing gig. The methods he talks about have been in use for ages. He just likes to talk about them and ads plenty of fluff to even the simplest ideas.
The good part is that if you have no idea about direct mail or are still a newbie at it, you will get enough to get you going. Just don't forget that he wants to be your printer, so "everything" seems to be easy and very profitable and there is no competition! lol
I agree and have no problem with him directing people to his services. At least, he makes sure their cards get printed right. I was just saying that most of his
newer products (since he became a broker for 4,Z etc) seem to be created "on purpose".
(06-06-2015 02:00 AM)Massblack Wrote: [ -> ]There is some truth to this and he would be a fool to not offer a service inside of a product that people could use.
He (Jake) doesn't print himself though, he is a print broker.
His services are not in the savings (although for some a savings is realized) its really in the servicing of the files your working with. He and his staff will spot and double check your work. Whether its a simple a brochure, biz card, postcard, 9x12, M3 ETC. The only physical work he really provides is bundle "rubber band" for EDDM and shrink wrap, I believe.
That said, I have done a dozen plus 9 x 12's a ton of M3's with only one printed by Jake (my first). Since then I became set up as a print broker with a few of the biggest wholesale print shops in the US.
He (Jake) can't beat their prices because he uses them too. But again, his real benefit is in the hand holding he does. More than a few people I know online and have personally spoke with over the past 3 years could care less about the dime he makes on his services and they use to their advantage his services (hand holding) to ensure a proper send out....
Those are my experiences.
MasssBlack
(06-05-2015 04:37 PM)moser Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 09:04 AM)LeggyAnita Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 05:22 AM)midastouch Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 05:03 AM)gwendoleea1 Wrote: [ -> ]Where's the full review?:(
Do you want chips with that?
F*** off.
ha ha lol!
my reveiw, bob ross comes up with new products all t time, that im sure is just the benitfit for himself ie sent me your printing i'll beat any price!
i did get 1 tip from this course, but if you have read a lot of offline stuff its nothing new oh and thx massblack
Most of his products are just a "hidden" pitch for his printing gig. The methods he talks about have been in use for ages. He just likes to talk about them and ads plenty of fluff to even the simplest ideas.
The good part is that if you have no idea about direct mail or are still a newbie at it, you will get enough to get you going. Just don't forget that he wants to be your printer, so "everything" seems to be easy and very profitable and there is no competition! lol
I have to agree on that point.
I too have noticed similar prodcuting (if thats a word) LOL
Reps for as great discussion!
MassBlack
(06-06-2015 03:41 AM)moser Wrote: [ -> ]I agree and have no problem with him directing people to his services. At least, he makes sure their cards get printed right. I was just saying that most of his newer products (since he became a broker for 4,Z etc) seem to be created "on purpose".
(06-06-2015 02:00 AM)Massblack Wrote: [ -> ]There is some truth to this and he would be a fool to not offer a service inside of a product that people could use.
He (Jake) doesn't print himself though, he is a print broker.
His services are not in the savings (although for some a savings is realized) its really in the servicing of the files your working with. He and his staff will spot and double check your work. Whether its a simple a brochure, biz card, postcard, 9x12, M3 ETC. The only physical work he really provides is bundle "rubber band" for EDDM and shrink wrap, I believe.
That said, I have done a dozen plus 9 x 12's a ton of M3's with only one printed by Jake (my first). Since then I became set up as a print broker with a few of the biggest wholesale print shops in the US.
He (Jake) can't beat their prices because he uses them too. But again, his real benefit is in the hand holding he does. More than a few people I know online and have personally spoke with over the past 3 years could care less about the dime he makes on his services and they use to their advantage his services (hand holding) to ensure a proper send out....
Those are my experiences.
MasssBlack
(06-05-2015 04:37 PM)moser Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 09:04 AM)LeggyAnita Wrote: [ -> ] (06-05-2015 05:22 AM)midastouch Wrote: [ -> ]Do you want chips with that?
F*** off.
ha ha lol!
my reveiw, bob ross comes up with new products all t time, that im sure is just the benitfit for himself ie sent me your printing i'll beat any price!
i did get 1 tip from this course, but if you have read a lot of offline stuff its nothing new oh and thx massblack
Most of his products are just a "hidden" pitch for his printing gig. The methods he talks about have been in use for ages. He just likes to talk about them and ads plenty of fluff to even the simplest ideas.
The good part is that if you have no idea about direct mail or are still a newbie at it, you will get enough to get you going. Just don't forget that he wants to be your printer, so "everything" seems to be easy and very profitable and there is no competition! lol
+5 Reps.....I still need to Implement his 9x12 method....Just gotten lazy
Thanks
Bob Ross is kinda like the the super advanced version of Luther Landro, almost all of these marketers make it sound easier than it really is and are really good idea presenters and get wealthy just presenting ideas, selling these ideas to clients can happen if enough effort is applied but nothing works if you can't get in front of prospects.
One of the better things I got from Bob Ross is
SOAR Selling: How To Get Through to Almost Anyone―the Proven Method for Reaching Decision Makers.
He gives a basic outline in one of his packages (in Sparkers, IIRC), essentially the best I ever seen on breaking through to the money person for a conversation. It's the missing link to many of these ideas being presented or marketed, so far I haven't been able to find it online but if I do I'll post it on BBHF.
Hope it helps
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