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Wow, what a great post! Very interesting! Thanks for the helpful information everyone!

Stumbled on this thread while looking for something else. Fact is Warrior2012 hit the nail on the head.

Marketing is essentially influence. It's about how you can get people to listen to you after you have listened to them.

It doesn't take much to succeed online. There are just two crucial elements:

Value = Perceived Authority and Credibility = Income. That's the bottom line. Understand this and you'll be surprised just how much your income will grow.

(05-11-2014 07:18 PM)fragoli Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to be negative, but is not easy as the product creator or @warrior2012 pretend to be .
First @warrior2012, if you make $17k in that short time paypal will freeze your account in the first place, it's not big deal you can call them, answer their questions and they may reconsider your account .
unless you was selling some crap, you can't create high ticket product without experience or real knowledge.
it's easy to get optins from solo ads but to make sales...I doubt.

To make the story short the product creator have no proof, just I made bla bla ..he is just selling people his webinar software in case they don't buy the upsells.

Want me to believe you, show us your infusionsoft account, or real results over the shoulder logging to your paypal account , not some bs notepad ...or fake screenshot .

the secret to make money and get superaffiliates kiss your ass is to have a list or have money to build a list quickly..PERIOD

I just stumbled across this thread today months after it was posted but I still want to respond because it could really affect a lot of peoples success.

Showing Proof in Order to Be Credible

Let's be clear about something.

This is an IM poverty mindset. It's the reason why people get scammed. People WANT to believe that they can 'make it' and one of the things they use to CONVINCE THEMSELVES is seeing what appears to be the inside of the product creators account.

Let me confirm to everyone who reads this update that this is one of the big reasons why people get scammed i.e. wanting to see proof from within an account. The fact (even if it's true) that person A has done it is NO GUARANTEE that you can too. If indeed it is a genuine view of their account, you and them do not have the same resources, DNA, skills, time, experience, motivation and a lot more that it takes to get a particular result.

PLUS...this whole 'show me the inside of your account before I believe you' is an MMO thing AND, all of that stuff can be faked and it regularly is in order to satisfy the need for the 'visual and emotional tripwire' that makes people suspend every rational thought they've had up to that point.

Outside the IM/MMO Niche

I operate outside of the above areas for the most part and I can confirm to you that when people believe you can help them, they will buy. Outside of IM/MMO people feel they are investing in themselves with you. In the IM/MMO niche people feel they need to be shown groundbreaking, never seen before methods ... then they proceed to say there's no 'proof' so the source is not to be trusted.

Seems like a chicken and egg situation but it's not - You either believe or you don't.

Outside of IM/MMO you can take your very personal experience of failure to success or even what you're doing currently and package and sell it for at least $97 and people will invest. I know because I've been in these fields since the early 2000s when I didn't really know what I was doing and I was watching videos by Bill Myers (those of you who've been around the block a few times will know who he is).

From his simple hype-free information I started out in product development, and I sold products while I was learning how to create and sell products.

So if anyone says it can't be done you're basically saying "I need to be convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that I cannot fail"

That's not going to happen and you'll remain in the 'struggling to get started' phase for years to come.

All you need to do is something that a lot of people aren't willing to do and that's be brave enough to get started. Start where you are with what you have. You have experience. You have knowledge. You know more than you think you do. People just starting out who know less than you will be interested in following your lead because you're a lot like them.

Thinking you've got to attain 'guru' status BEFORE you get started is a trap.

You don't.

I could create a whole program/course on this stuff that could help people, but if someone was to ask for or expect to see inside my PayPal account, my bank account or my Aweber account for instance, as a prerequisite to investing in themselves with me, I'd have no qualms asking them to go F*** themselves!

Thank You rep added

I downloaded all 8 videos and saved them locally on my hard drive, then I compressed them to *.RAR using the "best" algorithm to keep the .rar size as low as possible, and then I uploaded it to:

http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/58128523/file.html

PASSWORD OF THE RAR ARCHIVE IS THE USUAL PASSWORD

This is the completely offline version of this course, download it, save it to hard drive and you shall have access to this course perpetually.

15hhq5h5DwTV5nm5DPqTU4UsSRTG8scR3j
is my Bitcoin address, I would appreciate any donations.

Enjoy the offline version!

(05-11-2014 05:16 AM)Ravenuk Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the share
My Review:
Says its an over the shoulder follow me course but basically you dont get to see anything of any worth - total crap.
1. Build a squeeze page ( doesn't show you how )
2. Build a thank you page with a video on pre selling a webinar ( no real info here either )
3. Buy solo ads for traffic - you get to watch him go on warrior forum and choose who to buy from
4. Do a webinar with those that opted in
5. Sell high ticket price course on webinar ( he says he is selling his own coaching course )

he tells you what his stats are and how many sales he does - but absolutely no proof of any of it.

Don't waste your time...

Good advice. Tell people not to waste their time. Less competition for me.

Seriously, if you don't already know how to create a squeeze page, a thank-you page or do a webinar, then "don't waste your time" trying.

Give me a freakin break! That's why newbies are here. . . or at the WF. . . to LEARN! Anyone who really wants to know how to succeed in IM will SEARCH and FIND the information on HOW TO here in this forum FOR FREE!!! So, while this "case study" may not go into great detail on how to do the above mentioned steps, at least he lists the steps and anyone with half a brain can search and find the relevant courses that DO go into those specific details.

(11-26-2014 03:28 AM)WorldWarrior Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like a chicken and egg situation but it's not - You either believe or you don't.

Outside of IM/MMO you can take your very personal experience of failure to success or even what you're doing currently and package and sell it for at least $97 and people will invest. I know because I've been in these fields since the early 2000s when I didn't really know what I was doing and I was watching videos by Bill Myers (those of you who've been around the block a few times will know who he is).

From his simple hype-free information I started out in product development, and I sold products while I was learning how to create and sell products.

So if anyone says it can't be done you're basically saying "I need to be convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that I cannot fail"

That's not going to happen and you'll remain in the 'struggling to get started' phase for years to come.

All you need to do is something that a lot of people aren't willing to do and that's be brave enough to get started. Start where you are with what you have. You have experience. You have knowledge. You know more than you think you do. People just starting out who know less than you will be interested in following your lead because you're a lot like them.

Thinking you've got to attain 'guru' status BEFORE you get started is a trap.

You don't.

I could create a whole program/course on this stuff that could help people, but if someone was to ask for or expect to see inside my PayPal account, my bank account or my Aweber account for instance, as a prerequisite to investing in themselves with me, I'd have no qualms asking them to go F*** themselves!

+Rep'd you because what you said is so F****** true! Hell, it's freaking taboo to even talk about salaries here in the U.S. Ask anyone how much they make (like a co-worker) and they would immediately tell you to go F*** yourself. Or "it's none of your business". So yeah, I definitely agree that expecting to see a product creator's paypal account is just setting someone up (false expectations).

(12-08-2014 12:29 AM)Rathus Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2014 03:28 AM)WorldWarrior Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like a chicken and egg situation but it's not - You either believe or you don't.

Outside of IM/MMO you can take your very personal experience of failure to success or even what you're doing currently and package and sell it for at least $97 and people will invest. I know because I've been in these fields since the early 2000s when I didn't really know what I was doing and I was watching videos by Bill Myers (those of you who've been around the block a few times will know who he is).

From his simple hype-free information I started out in product development, and I sold products while I was learning how to create and sell products.

So if anyone says it can't be done you're basically saying "I need to be convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that I cannot fail"

That's not going to happen and you'll remain in the 'struggling to get started' phase for years to come.

All you need to do is something that a lot of people aren't willing to do and that's be brave enough to get started. Start where you are with what you have. You have experience. You have knowledge. You know more than you think you do. People just starting out who know less than you will be interested in following your lead because you're a lot like them.

Thinking you've got to attain 'guru' status BEFORE you get started is a trap.

You don't.

I could create a whole program/course on this stuff that could help people, but if someone was to ask for or expect to see inside my PayPal account, my bank account or my Aweber account for instance, as a prerequisite to investing in themselves with me, I'd have no qualms asking them to go F*** themselves!

+Rep'd you because what you said is so F****** true! Hell, it's freaking taboo to even talk about salaries here in the U.S. Ask anyone how much they make (like a co-worker) and they would immediately tell you to go F*** yourself. Or "it's none of your business". So yeah, I definitely agree that expecting to see a product creator's paypal account is just setting someone up (false expectations).

Some however may want proof in order to sell better ..

there is a good reason why you won't see any proof of these claims,
because they are fantasies with a bad goal in mind, sell a "make 22k in 2 weeks" product

i have myself applied real business to challenge in 48hours and 72 hours,
when i meet someone in a seminar, i log into my paypal account, and show them the period of the challenge when the cash is collected

by the way he recommend "Igor" for solo ads, and Igor make money coaching people on doing what he do= coaching people to help them do what his students do. These bad coaching from warriors is like the worst virus in business

Proof that he was fake from the beginning:
did he showed you his tracking stats: nope
did he show the receipt for the payments of the solo ads: nope
he claimed to have a 63% optin rate
Then around 35% of these optins will show up to attend the webinar, this is just a wild dream; you will never have these high conversion from people who had never done any business with you online

it take 10 minutes to create a video, showing all your sales inside your paypal account, this will boost your sales by XX%

this guy is the worst thing you can find on the warrior forum; the only money he will make is from is fake product making

this guy is a coach, what the hell is he coaching, "how to lie online" with credibility and scam inexperienced desperate people

this thread was and always will be one of my favorites <3

bumping only to o get it re-seen by anyonyone who perhaps could benefit