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(05-11-2014 04:59 PM)philoakey Wrote: [ -> ]The other issue here is that this guy couldn't have done this when he was starting out, with no financial investment, no IM experience, no contacts and so on.

These people always say "anyone can do this", but you need to be experienced in all aspects of this already or it just won't work.

He says he doesn't use anything that a complete newbie doesn't have... complete BS. Knowledge is all it takes (and $500)

When I launched my first product about 5 years ago I had No contacts, very little IM experience, Not tech savvy at all, and I invested NOT one penny.

I was Forum posting to get leads. I had NO Squeeze page, NO autoresponder, No website, No nothing.

I had a PayPal account and that's it. I posted a thread launching my teleseminar. I did my first one Free. I used a free teleseminar service. At the end of the first teleseminar I told my prospects that I was going to continue doing a series of teleseminars but they had to pay.

I said "if interested, please send me an email and I will send you a PP invoice." Out of 300 people who attended my Free teleseminar 170 paid me $97.00 via PP.

At that point I got an Aweber account and had people opt in. I continued with a few more teleseminars with PDF handouts and it was a smashing success.

I made almost $17,000.00

Total time invested: Maybe 12 hours

Of course I would never do it that way again. At the time I thought it was going to be a one-shot deal.

Little did I realize that a year later I would launch a product done properly and made $200,000.00 with upsells in less than 30 days.

It's really not as hard as people "think" it is.

Was it stressful at first, and was I nervous? Hell yes.

I never got ONE refund request.

Today you can use something like LeadPages, Mailchimp (I think free) and a PayPal account.

You can use one of many free teleseminar services or free conference calling services to deliver your product.

My Total cost for my 1st product launch was ZERO dollars.

The only fees I had were the PayPal fees for collecting funds.

I guarantee that if someone in "this" forum who has some great skills (FB ads, PPC, SEO, etc) wanted to do a product launch that many members here would easily pay up to $97.00 for the advice.

If you have a $1,000 to invest it makes the whole process so much easier.

But yes, it can be done.

(05-11-2014 05:42 PM)Warrior2012 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2014 04:59 PM)philoakey Wrote: [ -> ]The other issue here is that this guy couldn't have done this when he was starting out, with no financial investment, no IM experience, no contacts and so on.

These people always say "anyone can do this", but you need to be experienced in all aspects of this already or it just won't work.

He says he doesn't use anything that a complete newbie doesn't have... complete BS. Knowledge is all it takes (and $500)

When I launched my first product about 5 years ago I had No contacts, very little IM experience, Not tech savvy at all, and I invested NOT one penny.

I was Forum posting to get leads. I had NO Squeeze page, NO autoresponder, No website, No nothing.

I had a PayPal account and that's it. I posted a thread launching my teleseminar. I did my first one Free. I used a free teleseminar service. At the end of the first teleseminar I told my prospects that I was going to continue doing a series of teleseminars but they had to pay.

I said "if interested, please send me an email and I will send you a PP invoice." Out of 300 people who attended my Free teleseminar 170 paid me $97.00 via PP.

At that point I got an Aweber account and had people opt in. I continued with a few more teleseminars with PDF handouts and it was a smashing success.

I made almost $17,000.00

Total time invested: Maybe 12 hours

Of course I would never do it that way again. At the time I thought it was going to be a one-shot deal.

Little did I realize that a year later I would launch a product done properly and made $200,000.00 with upsells in less than 30 days.

It's really not as hard as people "think" it is.

Was it stressful at first, and was I nervous? Hell yes.

I never got ONE refund request.

Today you can use something like LeadPages, Mailchimp (I think free) and a PayPal account.

You can use one of many free teleseminar services or free conference calling services to deliver your product.

My Total cost for my 1st product launch was ZERO dollars.

The only fees I had were the PayPal fees for collecting funds.

I guarantee that if someone in "this" forum who has some great skills (FB ads, PPC, SEO, etc) wanted to do a product launch that many members here would easily pay up to $97.00 for the advice.

If you have a $1,000 to invest it makes the whole process so much easier.

But yes, it can be done.

Hey, I appreciate your reply and well done for your first project.

If you were totally new, what was your "product" and how did you convince people to buy from a newbie?

That is the part I always feel would be difficult.

(05-11-2014 05:55 PM)philoakey Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2014 05:42 PM)Warrior2012 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2014 04:59 PM)philoakey Wrote: [ -> ]The other issue here is that this guy couldn't have done this when he was starting out, with no financial investment, no IM experience, no contacts and so on.

These people always say "anyone can do this", but you need to be experienced in all aspects of this already or it just won't work.

He says he doesn't use anything that a complete newbie doesn't have... complete BS. Knowledge is all it takes (and $500)

When I launched my first product about 5 years ago I had No contacts, very little IM experience, Not tech savvy at all, and I invested NOT one penny.

I was Forum posting to get leads. I had NO Squeeze page, NO autoresponder, No website, No nothing.

I had a PayPal account and that's it. I posted a thread launching my teleseminar. I did my first one Free. I used a free teleseminar service. At the end of the first teleseminar I told my prospects that I was going to continue doing a series of teleseminars but they had to pay.

I said "if interested, please send me an email and I will send you a PP invoice." Out of 300 people who attended my Free teleseminar 170 paid me $97.00 via PP.

At that point I got an Aweber account and had people opt in. I continued with a few more teleseminars with PDF handouts and it was a smashing success.

I made almost $17,000.00

Total time invested: Maybe 12 hours

Of course I would never do it that way again. At the time I thought it was going to be a one-shot deal.

Little did I realize that a year later I would launch a product done properly and made $200,000.00 with upsells in less than 30 days.

It's really not as hard as people "think" it is.

Was it stressful at first, and was I nervous? Hell yes.

I never got ONE refund request.

Today you can use something like LeadPages, Mailchimp (I think free) and a PayPal account.

You can use one of many free teleseminar services or free conference calling services to deliver your product.

My Total cost for my 1st product launch was ZERO dollars.

The only fees I had were the PayPal fees for collecting funds.

I guarantee that if someone in "this" forum who has some great skills (FB ads, PPC, SEO, etc) wanted to do a product launch that many members here would easily pay up to $97.00 for the advice.

If you have a $1,000 to invest it makes the whole process so much easier.

But yes, it can be done.

Hey, I appreciate your reply and well done for your first project.

If you were totally new, what was your "product" and how did you convince people to buy from a newbie?

That is the part I always feel would be difficult.

I honestly had NO plan to launch any product, ever.

I was posting in a niche type forum and I had the respect of most of the members because I was knowledgeable on the subject.

Members in the forum kept asking me if I could do a coaching program. I kept telling them NO.

Then one member posted a Poll asking how many people would attend my coaching if I offered it.

300 people replied. Then another member sent me a PM and say "dude, these people are willing to pay you, you would be a fool not to offer some type of coaching".

I told everyone I had NEVER done this before, had NO tech skills (can barely create a gmail account) and I wasn't sure how to structure this.

So people kept saying all you need is a PP account, you can use free services, and it can all be done via gmail.

I posted the Free seminar event in the forum and the rest is history. The entire process from start to finish for the first seminar was about 10 days.

I then collected $17k and had 3 or 4 more seminars done over 2 weeks.

It was just me talking and a few PDFs.

You just need to know 10% more than the person willing to pay for your product. You don't have to be a guru.

I'm learning FB ads right now and quite honestly I would rather pay someone who knows what the hell they are doing to teach me. The problem is you don't know who to trust. I've seen 100s of FB products.

In addition, just when I think I have the fundamentals of FB down they make a major change. Seems harder to keep up with than Google Adwords/SEO.

I'm launching a new product/service in the next 30 days that will make me millions. Not only will I get up to $500 for the initial product but the back-end sales for life will make me even more money than the initial product.

If you have confidence and the "other person" thinks you know just a little bit more than them, they will pay. It's just a matter of pricing your offer correctly.

Do you want to make your money Front-end or Back-end.

Hope that helps.

Edit: Just wanted to state that THE product or service you offer has NOTHING to do with making money. It all comes down to this: Do people TRUST you.

That's a great story. It seems you were already ahead of the crowd at that time.

Reminds me of Dean Holland's story where he started writing a blog and people were asking him how he did this and that and he started a coaching program and made a mint.

It could be that you were in the right place at the right time.

Btw, I'd be interested in knowing what your new product/service will be, where can we get the details?

Thanks.

(05-11-2014 06:13 PM)Warrior2012 Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly had NO plan to launch any product, ever.

I was posting in a niche type forum and I had the respect of most of the members because I was knowledgeable on the subject.

Members in the forum kept asking me if I could do a coaching program. I kept telling them NO.

Then one member posted a Poll asking how many people would attend my coaching if I offered it.

Good on you mate. But how long did you post in the niche forum before they started trusting you to run a webinar? Surely not 2 weeks?

I don't want to be negative, but is not easy as the product creator or @warrior2012 pretend to be .
First @warrior2012, if you make $17k in that short time paypal will freeze your account in the first place, it's not big deal you can call them, answer their questions and they may reconsider your account .
unless you was selling some crap, you can't create high ticket product without experience or real knowledge.
it's easy to get optins from solo ads but to make sales...I doubt.

To make the story short the product creator have no proof, just I made bla bla ..he is just selling people his webinar software in case they don't buy the upsells.

Want me to believe you, show us your infusionsoft account, or real results over the shoulder logging to your paypal account , not some bs notepad ...or fake screenshot .

the secret to make money and get superaffiliates kiss your ass is to have a list or have money to build a list quickly..PERIOD

(05-11-2014 03:28 PM)Warrior2012 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2014 05:16 AM)Ravenuk Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the share
My Review:
Says its an over the shoulder follow me course but basically you dont get to see anything of any worth - total crap.
1. Build a squeeze page ( doesn't show you how )
2. Build a thank you page with a video on pre selling a webinar ( no real info here either )
3. Buy solo ads for traffic - you get to watch him go on warrior forum and choose who to buy from
4. Do a webinar with those that opted in
5. Sell high ticket price course on webinar ( he says he is selling his own coaching course )

he tells you what his stats are and how many sales he does - but absolutely no proof of any of it.

Don't waste your time...

Dude, have you ever done a WSO or similar type funnel as is mentioned in this product?

I have not yet read it, but will tonight.

From the reviews I've read this absolutely works. It's about getting traffic, building a RELATIONSHIP, and making an offer.

I do this ALL the time.

I've made over $30,000 in one day, over $60,000 in one week.

I'm launching a product in a few weeks that will make me several Million in less than 3 years.

Quit telling people "this doesn't work," you have no idea WTF you are talking about.

How is this guy doing anything different than what people like Frank Kern is doing?

Members in this forum who have NO experience should keep their F'n mouths shut. You are stopping newbies from taking action.

Are you for real - at least look at the product before you go jumping to its defence you retard.
if you think that Traffic -> squeeze page -> webinar -> sell product is some revolutionary concept that deserves my time then you must have got into internet marketing yesterday and be a complete newb.

I doubt you have earnt $3 let alone $30K and if your product is as lame as this i shall give that a shit review as well.

This is just another BS WSO offering nothing new at all.

This isn't worth the time to download

(05-11-2014 07:18 PM)fragoli Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to be negative, but is not easy as the product creator or @warrior2012 pretend to be .

First @warrior2012, if you make $17k in that short time paypal will freeze your account in the first place, it's not big deal you can call them, answer their questions and they may reconsider your account .
unless you was selling some crap, you can't create high ticket product without experience or real knowledge.
it's easy to get optins from solo ads but to make sales...I doubt.

To make the story short the product creator have no proof, just I made bla bla ..he is just selling people his webinar software in case they don't buy the upsells.

Want me to believe you, show us your infusionsoft account, or real results over the shoulder logging to your paypal account , not some bs notepad ...or fake screenshot .

the secret to make money and get superaffiliates kiss your ass is to have a list or have money to build a list quickly..PERIOD

When someone says "they don't want to be negative" that means exactly what you are.

I don't need to see the OP PayPal account nor am I going to waste 5 minutes of my time searching for my PP shots. I could give a F***

I'm not trying to get money from you nor am I trying to convince you of anything.

I use a phrase that Frank Kern once said at it always stuck with me... "Suspend YOUR Beliefs" for a moment, let me say what I need to say and THEN make your decision.

Aside from all the tech crap you need like a lead page, autoresponder, etc... there are only 2 things you need to succeed.

1. A list of people, no matter how small. Jeff Walker started his first newsletter with 17 people. He has sold over $400 Million worth of product.

2. People need to know that you CARE, not how much you know.

Traffic>Lead Capture Page>Autoresponder (this is the MOST important part to developing your Relationship with your prospects)> PayPal account or similar>and some sort of product or service.

You can even use a Clickbank or CPA product, it does not need to be your product.

An associate of mine makes over $1 Million per year NET selling dog products. Vitamins, cancer pills, dog training DVDs, etc.. <<<< I'm seriously considering entering that niche. In 2013 over $63 Billion in dog products was sold. 63 Billion!

FB makes less than 8 Billion per year for comparison.

Building value with your prospects and gaining their Trust is all you need.

The rest is all BS.

http://internetmarketingsuperfriends.com...rship-pt1/

Above is a Lead Page that I am currently developing for my new product. I have No idea who that guy is but I do know that he understands the Process. That's why he'll make big bucks.

Once my email capture page is complete and I have my Freemium products completed (PDFs, Video, etc) then I'll start to drive traffic via FB and YT.

I can spend $25 day for 10 days ($250) and develop a nice email list.

Once I finish 4 emails over 10 days I will offer my product>collect money>deliver product>get testimonials>publish press releases> and repeat again and again.

That's why I make the BIG bucks MoFo

BTW, New Corvette ZO6 with ZO7 option on order.

^^^^ that's what happens when you believe in yourself and the process.

P.S. I don't use affiliates. Many big gurus have gotten away from it. Scaled it down bigtime.

Smells like someone is phising to gain trust in a BlackHat forum
then try and rip people off by having them send money using the PM

Be careful guys!!
Remember what happen not to long ago with this type of shit!