[REQ] Caleb ODowd High Profit Facebook Groups

[sales1]

Would someone please reup this? Thanks!

[Pinktinker]

Caleb was pounding on this one pretty hard last week.

A relaunch, an upgrade, a new version, a 2.0 ? ~~ none of this was mentioned.
Not sure then if this is cutting edge new material or not.

Facebook has undergone some big changes in the last 6 months and surely more to come.

The O'dowd sales webinar appeared to be pre-recorded as is the trend now.
Ran almost 3 hours with about 1/2 hour of light ''training'' where a sweet carrot was dangled.

Caleb was wound up tight and gave it his all.
His mysterious partner Doctor K never appeared, apparently though he is super rich and super good at FB groups, shows you how to make a fortune using his methods.

Caleb said between the 2 of them they are in 23 niches.

70,000 dollar day, 600,000 per month, some of the numbers thrown about.

Didn't see any online downloads or shared in a GB at that section.

Be interesting to see what they do beyond the obvious to grow these groups out so fast and then to profit.

Have a good day, BBHF people.

[actionguy]

I wouldn't invest in building a Facebook group at the moment because FB has reduced the organic reach as they did with Fan pages.

And it looks like that's the path groups are heading towards.

I see a lot of people pushing groups.

I would advice someone to build their own assets and just leverage social media platforms.

[taildive777]

I purchased this program ($2000). Usually I am a hard sell bur O'Dowd is a convincing salesman. I listened during the webinar for whether there was any money back guarantee. He did subtlety slip it in but kept it low key. (7days).

During the Webinar he was pushing people hard to sign up. He kept saying, "If you buy the program while we are still on the webinar, I will build you your first facebook group page. But once the webinar is over you are out of luck. You will not get this bonus.

Well imagine my surprise when I logged into the tutorial site and there was a video telling me that his people would build my first face group site for me. I had listened to a REPLAY of the webinar so I would not have been eligible for that bonus. Fact of the matter was that anybody who bought the program at anytime got that bonus

So then this past Friday Caleb did his first of 6 weekly private webinars with the group. He comes on and says it was going to be an hour of Q&A. He did answer some questions but could've answered a ton more. But he likes to talk about his experience and how much money he is making. And I have no doubt he IS making tons of money because he is an internet marketer of the highest level. But my questions is this: if you are making so much money then why bother working so hard to sell people on this program in multiple seminars. Seems like a lot of needless work when he has passive money streaming in like crazy.

Anyway during the Q&A he went on and on and on that this is not a get rich quick system. That we are going to have to work hard at this. And I mean he went on and on and on. Reading between the lines my takeaway was this: folks, its not going to be as easy as I made it out to be during the initial webinar where I got you to pay me $2000 each.

Also he talked a lot about the mysterious Dr. K and himself and again how much money they are making off of groups. But he didn't offer many examples of past students making money. He did mention that one of his students (well I am assuming he is a past student) decided to start a facebook group on collecting stone arrowheads. He apparently has built the group up and once a month he gathers all the most interesting info from the posts in which members share info, he pays somebody to collate the info and makes it look real professional and then this guy sells this pdf magazine/report to his group. He makes about $9000 a month. Which I think is fantastic.

The other thing Caleb did not emphasize during the initial webinar is that you will have to run facebook ads to find members for your group. He said that 93% of his members came to him free. The other 7% he ran facebook ads.

HOWEVER:

During the membership call this past Friday he emphasized that we would have to run ads and that it was a hit and miss process. You kept testing your ads and reworking them until one of them starts to payoff for you/meaning--starts bringing in new members.

I think DR. K has building facebook groups down to science and I don't believe he or Caleb are going to hand over the really meaty tips and tricks. Not for $2000.

Caleb mentioned that periodically he opens a group and funnels people into that group that have been, If I GOT IT RIGHT, pre-approved or pre-sold so to speak. He charges those people $18,000 for a program I am assuming he is selling. One of his own programs. I have a feeling, and I don't know if I am right so don't quote me, but I think after the people who've paid him $2000 finish the six week mentoring course, he offers them the next level for $18,000.

After I finished listening to the Q&A I thought long and hard. I woke up Saturday morning and asked for a refund which they promptly took care of. No hassles there. On Sunday I was looking around Udemy and found a facebook group building course on sale for $11.99 and bought it. I am learning a ton from it.

This is my take away. You learn how to set up your group page. Oh BTW, according to Caleb-if you are going to sell to your group then according to facebooks terms and conditions, you must set up a fanpage. Same name for both group and page and you post the same material to both. I didn't know this so that was a good tip.

Bottomline you are going to have to figure out how to get people to join your group. Either free methods or paid ads. And then you must be the cheerleader for the group so you keep them engaged and coming back. Once your group is established and strong you can turn it over to a moderator if you choose.

Caleb O'Dowd is an amazing salesman. No doubt about it. He even said that running a group is about personality. You have to infuse you group with your personality. You have to be the leader of the pack. Caleb has personality in spades so no wonder he is making so much money.

[Pinktinker]

First off a HUGE thanks to taildive 777 for taking the time to write out the thoughts allowing a peek behind the 2000 dollar curtain.

Being an older jaded type and a study of copy and how words are contrived to convince, have to say found Caleb grating after awhile.

Sure his delightful Lucky'charms Irish lilt, fiddle-dee-potatoes, give 'ya a slap on yer ass persona is fun to listen to but there is only so much ''simple'' hype one can stand.

He pounded, pounded, pounded, pounded, the fact that this business model is just that ~~ '' fiddle dee dee hee hee , KIDS can do this, EVEN old f%$kers like me can do it, dead drop simple, simple EASY!!

And after the near 2 hour pitch blathering on about the NEW FB phenom of making a shit ton of money with GROUPS! he was STILL hollering about how incredibly, stupendously easy it was to do.

Rich? you will become incredibly rich in a very, very, very short time.
Followers? they will flow in like a sweet babbling brook, unstoppable and all FREE.

The mysterious Dr. K is Dr. Harlan Kilstein, one of the foremost marketers today. He has generated over 100 million dollars in sales in the past 20 years.His clients run 7,8 and 9 figure businesses.

So THIS was who Caleb hooked up with to grow his own Keto group.
Do 'ya think that might have been a bit of a booster for O'dowd? ~~ you betcha... now how easy was that!

I shook my head as taildive 777 talked about getting to the other side' and how the miss and hit paid ad thing was brought up.
woops,,, Oh! where did that FREE simple stuff go suddenly?

You want to believe running FB ads can be difficult and costly.

Leading to an 18,000 course, most likely is the end game, yes.

I have a ''page'' with 13,000 followers and I fight hard to keep them coming in, activated and interacting... took 10 months to get to this point.
A group of the same becomes step 2.

13K is tiny. Getting into the 100's of thousands and onto the millions is where the money starts to be made.

Appreciate what you said here taildive.

[taildive777]

And thanks in return Pinktinker-I was happy to hear you got some of the same vibes I did. Yes, Caleb's oh shucks Irish blarney serves him well when he's selling.

My additional thoughts are this: when someone comes along ready to sell a big ticket item for a How To system I tend to think the initial gold rush is over. Yes if you work the system you can make some money but its going to be harder to recoup you initial investment ($2000 in this case) and then start making some profits. It's a tribute to Caleb's convincing salesmanship that I decided to give his program a try. But I am glad I pulled out it and got my refund.

[Caprock]

Big thank you to Taildive777! You know, I think there MIGHT be some money to made via FB groups but the question I have is...what are the products? What do you sell? Wondering if Caleb gets into that much in his course. (Ya, I know you can do affiliate, Amazon or other, but curious as to his preferred products). Or maybe he doesn't get into it. He certainly didn't in the video sales pitch. Seemed to completely ignore that (not-so) little detail.

[noob14]

max reps to taildive and Pinktinker for their insights.

Here's a few more:

Harlan's keto groups are the "CompletelyKeto" series (there's a few of 'em) if you wanna join to see what they're up to. I've been watching for a while and Harlan has definitely changed up how he monetizes.

For a long time, he was just posting links back to his completelyketo site that were recipes. Then each page was heavily monetized via native ads and amazon affiliate links. For a while, he was also sending out the same daily recipes via email and (IIRC) messenger bot.

Then he switched to some kinda automated software that would go out, scrape amazon for products (all kitchen appliances), and post his affiliate link directly to the group. He'd do this several times a day.

Now, he's got his own products. I'll come back to that.

Caleb's keto group is Daily Keto Meals. For a while, he was monetizing via affiliate links (think Butcher Box). Then he had his own info product created that he was promoting. Not sure how often.

Maybe 2-3 weeks ago or more, Caleb was promoting a webinar (via his email list) that was an offshoot of this High Income FB Groups program. Basically, it was a chance to join he and Harlan, as they've got a whole funnel and stable of keto-products released.

Harlan partnered with someone to create a keto info product, and promoted it to his group basically like a product launch. He teased it for a few days, then released it for only a few days, used massive scarcity, etc. There was an upsell, but I don't remember what it was.

Now they've got other products for the back-end.

Their spiel was that they wanted people to pay them a stupidly high fee (like $5k, I think?). This would give them access to Caleb and Harlan for a year where they'd get two webinars a week. One as a "how to", and the other a Q&A.

This was position as NOT a basic FB how to (like High Income Group product is)...so you'd still have to get that separately.

You also agree to go out and build a keto FB group. They'll help you build it to 100k+ members in six months or less. At the same time, you agree to be their affiliate and promote nothing but their line of keto products. I remember one of the things they wanted you to do was be willing to get on a FB Live at least once/week so you can promote one of their products via a ready-made VSL script they'll give you.

So...there's that.

As for some of the "usual" testimonials Caleb has in his webinars:

He talks about "Kevin" who made like $400k with this group - that's Kevin Nations, one of the best salesman in the game, already has massive authority, and deals in nothing but super high ticket programs, coaching, etc.

The "Jon" that made $600k with a crypto group is Jon Tarr. Jon is another very good salesman that's in that "inner circle" of guys with Caleb, Harlan, etc. I don't know if Jon still does the crypto group or not, but he's recently been promoting his "Flip Flop Nation" group / coaching. (Jon made his public name as a paid traffic guy...both via affiliate marketing and native ad arbitrage when that was going big.) I asked him for more info and he said up front that if you don't have at least $10k to spend in ads, there was no point in even talking.

(He was nicer about it than that, but that was the gist of it.)

So, yeah...there's all that. Don't know how helpful any of it is.

One guy that might be worth paying some attention to in the FB group space is Colin Theriot. He's a bit of a d-bag (IMO, anyway), but he has monetized his "Cult of Copy" group really well.

[noob14]

(07-28-2019 10:24 PM)Caprock Wrote:  Big thank you to Taildive777! You know, I think there MIGHT be some money to made via FB groups but the question I have is...what are the products? What do you sell? Wondering if Caleb gets into that much in his course. (Ya, I know you can do affiliate, Amazon or other, but curious as to his preferred products). Or maybe he doesn't get into it. He certainly didn't in the video sales pitch. Seemed to completely ignore that (not-so) little detail.

There's never gonna be a "one-size-fits-all" answer for that. At the same time, you should have (at least some semblance of) that figured out before you even start building your group, as that's gonna dictate what kinda group you build, who you add to it, what kinda content you post, etc.

For example, Caleb / Harlan's claim to fame here (obviously) is building a MASSIVE audience interested in keto. While Harlan has no problem plastering his fat face all over his own products to sell them, building personal credibility in this niche would NOT be necessary.

(See my comments above on how they want affiliates.)

On the flip side, there's a different course on building groups (can't remember the name or course creator - there's a GB for it) where if you watch the webinar interview, the dude selling it obviously uses groups for building credibility so he can then sell his high-priced courses.

This is also along the lines of what Colin Theriot does.

Two totally different approaches...and they're not necessarily the only ones.

[noob14]

webinar Caleb did last night in his RoiTips FB group about building his keto group:

Magic Button :

https://www.facebook.com/100011204769433/videos/854420588274759/

Don't know what he's pitching. Also don't know if you'll be able to see this video without being in his group - I think he's pulling it down on August 1st.