Maybe we should allow separate threads for FFLT and GET of the same course, thoughts?

[饿死我了]

So I have every F4LT course there is.

So when I'm looking through the thread list, I will only ever open ones with [GET], because I still need couponed courses.

However threads like the following can make it harder to know there's a course I need when a coupon is hidden in a F4LT thread.

http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Italian-Grammar-Quick-Guide-Verbs-1

I think it would be advantageous to keep a distinction between the two types. Thoughts?

[cgcg]

It's a great idea but difficult to implement fully.

Reason,
Some courses are initially Free but turn paid. So any coupon for them should be posted in the same thread created with F4LT tag. So unless such threads aren't moderated to edit the title, coupons would still be hidden inside F4LT threads.

[angelcrc7]

It could be, thanks for the suggestion, brother; It is useful to discuss these matters openly! ;)

But I think it's better as it is now, due to these 4 reasons:


1) In reality, the [status] of a course constantly changes from [F4LT] to [GET], and vice versa [GET] to [F4LT], at any time; if we create 2 threads, both would have the same problem! (by human mistakes of the new sharers)

2) It is better to keep 1 single thread for each course, without duplication; because if we allow 1 duplication, then duplications could get out of our hands (by human mistakes of the new sharers). It is more organized to have only 1 thread per course!

3) It is better to keep 1 single thread, to maintain respect for the original sharer, I think it is the right thing to do!

4) Actually, we should always search for the URL (which never changes) regardless of the thread's title or [tags] (because these can change at any time), regardless of whether we have a GET coupon or a F4LT link, our search should always be the same. We need to search always with the search method in the URL that you shared several years ago, 饿死我了 bro!


Peace!

:)

[coxxman25]

I didn't know what F4LT meant until I read this thread.
Now I realise it means Free for a limited time -
(correct me if I am wrong!)

[hereyougo]

So how many Udemy courses have you accumulated - must be a lot if you have every F4LT. Just curious

[quote='饿死我了' pid='2842220' dateline='1566682029']
So I have every F4LT course there is.

So when I'm looking through the thread list, I will only ever open ones with [GET], because I still need couponed courses.

However threads like the following can make it harder to know there's a course I need when a coupon is hidden in a F4LT thread.

http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Italian-Grammar-Quick-Guide-Verbs-1

I think it would be advantageous to keep a distinction between the two types. Thoughts?
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[饿死我了]

== Some courses are initially Free but turn paid. So any coupon for them should be posted in the same thread created with F4LT tag. So unless such threads aren't moderated to edit the title, coupons would still be hidden inside F4LT threads.

>> That's exactly the problem, we end up with threads whose titles misrepresent the content. So if 1 thread for FFLT and one thread for GET per course we end up with some more threads, yes, but more accurate titles representing the content.

== 1) In reality, the [status] of a course constantly changes from [F4LT] to [GET], and vice versa [GET] to [F4LT], at any time; if we create 2 threads, both would have the same problem!

>> So we just post in the appropriate of the 2 threads. If it's a coupon we post in it's GET thread, if no coupon, we post in it's FFLT thread.

== 2) It is better to keep 1 single thread for each course, without duplication; because if we still allow 1 duplication, then duplications get out of our hands. It is more organized to have only 1 thread per course!

>> The problem here is that GET and FFLT are slowly losing their meanings. What's the point of having these tags is they don't represent the content? We can't change the tages if we didn't start the thread either.

Should we not bother differentiating the titles if there's no distinction in the content?

== So how many Udemy courses have you accumulated - must be a lot if you have every F4LT. Just curious"

>> Upwards of 30,000

[angelcrc7]

[quote='饿死我了' pid='2842325' dateline='1566690518']

>> That's exactly the problem, we end up with threads whose titles misrepresent the content. So if 1 thread for FFLT and one thread for GET per course we end up with some more threads, yes, but more accurate titles representing the content.

>> So we just post in the appropriate of the 2 threads. If it's a coupon we post in it's GET thread, if no coupon, we post in it's FFLT thread.

>> The problem here is that GET and FFLT are slowly losing their meanings. What's the point of having these tags is they don't represent the content? We can't change the tages if we didn't start the thread either. Should we not bother differentiating the titles if there's no distinction in the content?

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Good arguments too, maybe you're right, I admit, my appreciated 饿死我了 bro! Maybe it could be possible to make a change and have 2 threads per course, one GET (with coupons) and another F4LT (Free For Limited Time); when needed.

Let's see what the other sharers, moderators and members of our community think, to make a decision together.

Anyway, I leave there written my arguments to continue as we are, and so we can decide if one or another position is the most appropriate. I will accept whatever we decide.


Peace and success, bros!


PD:

Thanks also to the comment of "Vanilla Bean" shared below... He is also right, we have to be more grateful with our GENEROUS SHARERS (and also with the newbie authors) and more merciful when a SHARER has done a duplicate or a similar human mistake.

In that same feeling, it is important to consider that it's EASIER for the sharers if we continue with 1 thread per course. But if we make a change of 2 threads GET and F4LT per course, it could be very difficult for sharers; I think, but I could be wrong.


:)

[Vanilla Bean]

I believe we have two groups of people posting courses here:

1. business people - members who post to gain a benefit, such as the course creators looking for reviews, and perhaps professional promoters ( do professional promoters exist? )

2. generous people - members who selflessly search and post because they want to help us get the latest free courses

In some cases I can tell the difference between business people and generous people. More often, it is a mystery to me. I believe generous people post most courses here.

I understand this forum runs on freebies. We are always looking to [GET] more, especially when [FREE]. A member, 饿死我了, recently admitted to collecting about 30,000 free courses so far. ( Does this member have a name that is possible to write in English? ).

I believe it's enough that the generous members search for free courses and post them here for us out of the goodness of their hearts. As if that was too little, we now require generous people to search the forum before posting because some of us have low tolerance for duplicate threads.

I am wondering ... are some of us starting to feel more entitled? Do we really want to make generous people work even harder to give us freebies?

[饿死我了]

I believe it's enough that the generous members search for free courses and post them here for us out of the goodness of their hearts. As if that was too little, we now require generous people to search the forum before posting because some of us have low tolerance for duplicate threads.

I am wondering ... are some of us starting to feel more entitled? Do we really want to make generous people work even harder to give us freebies?

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@Vanilla Bean

Just call me "Hungry".

We have to search either way, this doesn't really affect that. My point is that GET and F4LT are pointless tags for threads if we're going to mix both types in the same thread. It will eventually become a total mishmash of FFLT and GET in each thread and the title will be become at best meaningless, at worst, misleading.

F4LT courses are much easier to keep up to date with than coupons, so I don't feel the need to view F4LT threads. Coupons can take some true hunting skills however. GET threads I always will open to try and get more courses.

I just feel if we're not going to hold the integrity of the tag over the long term, it's pointless making the differentiation in the first place.

There are 2 simple solutions:
• We only use 1 tag
• We keep coupons and FFLT in separate threads.

Neither of these really change the work load. A search has to be done first either way.

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@angelcrc7

In that same feeling, it is important to consider that it's EASIER for the sharers if we continue with 1 thread per course. But if we make a change of 2 threads GET and F4LT per course, it could be very difficult for sharers; I think, but I could be wrong.
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What part makes it very difficult? Just do a search and choose the appropriate one labeled GET or F4LT, or post a new thread if none. What am I missing?

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Thanks for the responses and opinions!

[Vanilla Bean]

饿死我了, I'm going to call you Asian person because I believe "饿死我了" is something an Asian person would write. Please feel free to supply correct information to help me understand you better. FYI, I have no idea what, 饿死我了, is or what it means.

@Asian person
I believe this section of the forum is called, " Udemy 100% FREE for LIMITED TIME "

This suggests we should expect the courses posted here are free for a limited time, with or without coupons. Is it possible people choose their own labels because they believe such labels are helpful?

If we can believe the name of this section of the forum, is the GET label or F4LT label even necessary? Perhaps you could serve your purpose in another way. What about a campaign to encourage people to drop this labeling?