[MVP Access] on MoneyVIPProgram.com

[khawk1]

Honestly, this is the worst idea ever!
BBHF is simply being diluted by spreading the content on 2 different platforms.

Nowadays there are many many BBHF type sites, and as such, the result will be that more and more people are leaving BBHF and moving over to other sites.

I am sure that if we could look at the backend of BBHF it would show a steep decline in both visitors and time spent on the site if you look back and compare it to eg. 2-3 years ago.
This idiotic plan seems like something that has been created while desperately hanging on for dear life, and hoping not to lose the last grasp on the BBHF community.

The problem is, however, that if you wanted to keep a good grasp on the community, BBHF should have been MUCH better at dealing with scammers, and kept improving the site, not just let shit fall apart and now years later, try to pick up the pieces.

It's honestly most likely too late since other platforms have looked at how you guys handled shit here and used it for a guide as to what NOT to do...

If you want to do something, then you need to fix the BBHF forum, not make a new forum.
In BBHF there are so many times where scammers are being allowed to stay on the platform and other bullshit.

Fix all the crap, and protect the BBHF.
Don't go for the easy quick money, as there is no community on the other site, so you will never get anything close to what BBHF is, or at least has been for many years.

I reported a scammer that was allowed to stay in BBHF for over 2 years despite scamming many people here in the GB section, and that case is far from a lone case.. A typical case that should never have been possible. You scam, you're gone forever!

And what the f*** is shit!!
"--> All GB Sellers will be allowed to transfer their GB threads on the new section
--> MVP site has no moderation"

That means that any GB seller can scam and sell garbage forever without any problems.
Great job.

Fix your shit, do a better job with maintaining the forum, and forget that idiotic plan.

[California Kid]

this is not 100% true as i already see a known spammer AND scammer on the list. in fact, his account was even suspended before. we'll see though. i wont mention names. he knows who he is and will be seeing this post. he's an eth miner so he wont even be paying access to that forum.

it's not like vip's are not prone to spamming or scamming. many vip have been banned from this forum already... this has always been my pet peeve when i tried to keep the forum clean in the past so lets be honest here :)

but yes, it's less with vip's which is why i don't mind supporting this project. it's going to eliminate a lot of that garbage

(09-03-2022 03:28 PM)lala Wrote:  Now on the issue of spam, it wont be spam because registration was disabled. Only MVP members who paid for access has the access on that site in which i will doubt they will spam since it will be reported easily by any members, like i said the MVP site will composed of high quality responsible VIP members in which i doubt they will spam unless their account was been hacked. but not a problem at all since we can always restore their hack account and delete the spam. MVP site is more on "useful data", not the usual trash garbage content of forcing members to post or pm me type related thread that consume forum data.

Thanks.

Regards,
Lala

[California Kid]

my take is that the format will be identical to bbhf but with some added features turned on, more secure with the site and shares, and more quality posts. what wont be identical is the quality of the forum and that is where the real value will come in. i think it will take a while to transition but every business starts very slow and grows from there. even this forum had to do the same thing.

the other difference obviously is that we pay for that forum in one way or another

obviously if it were a higher quality forum(which it will be) and free, it would be a no brainer to have an account because of the higher quality. so the only issue is the price and if it's worth it or not to someone. the problem with THAT however is that i know some vip's wont be able to afford the price if they are on a tight budget. BUT if they can't afford the price then in my opinion, they aren't a higher quality member because they never took advantage of the courses and methods shared on bbhf and don't have that experience and help in that area of the forum.

here is my take on the DOWNSIDE of the forum. it will hurt bbhf because some people like me will probably want to choose one over the other and obviously we are going to choose the higher quality one and help grow it. this will IN FACT create a domino effect in the future for bbhf and make it even LOWER quality than it is now. it's not like we are dvertising the forum on other sites. we are directly taking members from this site.

so although bbhf will still be running and alive, i can see this move eventually leading to it's continued downfall in quality. another thing to consider is, we don't have unlimited time. where do you think most of the time and effort will be to manage a forum will be right now? it's something else to consider. this forum has always been under managed but i gaurantee you that nobody is going to sacrifice the new site over this one so it can remain the higher quality site.

there may be some things the mods and admin does not want to admit right now. but we have to read between the lines here.

you are obviously someone who shares and cares about sharing on the other site, you can BE SURE you will be sharing with people more deserving of helping and sharing with as well. we literally eliminate the leechers because in one way or another, everyone on that forum has contributed in one way or another. THOSE are the people i would rather focus MY time on personally....

(09-03-2022 02:03 PM)Lumos Wrote:  [size=large]I had a look at MoneyVIPProgram.com and see that in lots of ways it is very much like BBHF - which is of course not a bad thing.

[SinFa]

Hi Lala, I'm interested and would like to stick with the same username. Thanks

[Trikuro]

I'll join, where's the payment link?

[baty]

Thank you for new ideas.

I am interested in. Please send me the payment link.

Thank you.
baty

[onemoreround]

Please also share payment link with me

[baty]

I am interested in.

Please share the payment link

[lala]

(09-03-2022 06:43 PM)khawk1 Wrote:  Honestly, this is the worst idea ever!
BBHF is simply being diluted by spreading the content on 2 different platforms.

Nowadays there are many many BBHF type sites, and as such, the result will be that more and more people are leaving BBHF and moving over to other sites.

People may come and go. We cannot force anyone to stay here. They have their own freedom to do that.
That would be fine with us. What we are more focus is on keeping BBHF and MVP site useful for everyone.
We are NOT really worried after all with all those upcoming BBHF type sites, in fact we would be happy if there would be many BBHF type sites that would appear,
this only mean one thing if you are being COPIED then it means your very useful to them.

(09-03-2022 06:43 PM)khawk1 Wrote:  I am sure that if we could look at the backend of BBHF it would show a steep decline in both visitors and time spent on the site if you look back and compare it to eg. 2-3 years ago.
This idiotic plan seems like something that has been created while desperately hanging on for dear life, and hoping not to lose the last grasp on the BBHF community.

Since khawk1 was asking us to show real stats of visitors then how about looking on this stats.

Now let us compare it on what you want from 2 to 3 years ago.


Now if you still wanna know for last month


See the last month statisctic from August 04, 2022 to Sept 04, 2022 that even MVP site already started silenty,
still the number of thread(s) and post(s) from members are still pointing upward.

If would be perfect normal to see a decrease on numbers of threads or shares on BBHF decrease because some of the "top contributor" already started
and moved on the MVP site but despite that there are still top contributor who still contribute and share even up to this date.

(09-03-2022 06:43 PM)khawk1 Wrote:  The problem is, however, that if you wanted to keep a good grasp on the community, BBHF should have been MUCH better at dealing with scammers, and kept improving the site, not just let shit fall apart and now years later, try to pick up the pieces.

It's honestly most likely too late since other platforms have looked at how you guys handled shit here and used it for a guide as to what NOT to do...

If you want to do something, then you need to fix the BBHF forum, not make a new forum.
In BBHF there are so many times where scammers are being allowed to stay on the platform and other bullshit.

Fix all the crap, and protect the BBHF.
Don't go for the easy quick money, as there is no community on the other site, so you will never get anything close to what BBHF is, or at least has been for many years.

I reported a scammer that was allowed to stay in BBHF for over 2 years despite scamming many people here in the GB section, and that case is far from a lone case.. A typical case that should never have been possible. You scam, you're gone forever!

Fix your shit, do a better job with maintaining the forum, and forget that idiotic plan.

I don't understand at what part as "super mod" i failed.
If i check all your support centre it was being handle by me, never did i ignore you or anyone else here. You even got your money back as mentioned by you,
i am surprise at what part i had failed you when in fact you can always count on me, i always replied to anyone unlike mod Omni Potens who ignore members, but me as a super mod here, everyone can always count on me.


@everyone dont be shy, you can always send me a pm and ask for help, and i will do my best to assist and help you one at a time since replying on hundreds of pm per day was not that easy but rest assured all are being handled with care :)

You assume that we allow scammers to stay on BBHF without even asking us what we already did.
BBHF never tolerate any scammers if you check our record(s) , Omni Potens ban many scammer account even they are VIP members.
I am sure you were referring to wombat67, we take care this already even without relying on your report.
There are others who also reported him. The ONLY REASON he was not banned so that we can collect as much as more ip address to him/her so that we can monitor any new accounts that would match his/her account.
Banning him/her is not a solution since if we do that he/she can simply happily run away with all the money he/she collected and he/she can re-register with a new account with a new identity,
it is already enough he/she was NOT banned but members already knew what kind of members he/she was and
at the same time he/she can no longer run any BSO/GB again.
You assume he/she was not banned because we love scammers? your totally wrong with that, we rather see this scammers not banned but putting them shame on public for the rest of their life.


and one more thing i strongly disagree on you when you say it was the worst or idiotic plan that Admin Mikhael come up with, it was the opposite on what you think,
you see we had nothing to prove here. MVP members on the other site already done their part and continue to do their part.
You cannot force them or blame them if they stop sharing here on BBHF and wanted to move on the MVP site. It was their choice and freedom.

Come back on what i say year(s) from now and you will see much more better improvement both on BBHF and MVP site.
BBHF will still be the "best black hat forum" we have, nothing will change even MVP site exist.
You mention it on your post above "more and more people are leaving BBHF and moving over to other sites."
MVP will solve that issue, why move on other site(s)? when MVP site will cover almost everything, plan are already set in motion.

Give us a chance before you assume it was the worst or idiotic idea, there are already lot of useful and expensive course(s) been shared on the MVP loot even the site was new
and this was just the beginning :)

If your in doubt or anyone in doubt and do not trust Admin Mikhael, or do not trust me, your free to stay on BBHF or move to other site you prefer.
You have all the freedom to do that and we wont force anyone to stay :)

Regards,
Lala

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Updated as of 09-04-2022, 08:07 AM

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[Engr Jako]

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