[GET] (offtopic): Solid Reasons To Get Vaccinated

[jimmythesaint]

Vivekananda

you want to know the truth

ready?

ok

of the people that get vaccinated

90% close off any additional studies or information that would contradict a decision they already made and CANNOT UNDUE. the belief system by default

will always look and find supporting info to support that decision

it takes a conscience effort to not allow this to happen

so instead.. to validate their own decision why they did something.. they go out and want everyone else to get vaccinated..

this is a natural component of installing a belief.

I say to all vaccinated people

thank you for the sacrifice you made.. I appreciate it

because.. vaccinated people now will provide long term data where in a few years.. reasonable and rational people can make an educated decision

once again.

thank you

(12-04-2021 07:27 AM)Vivekananda Wrote:  The compounded tragedy of Covid-19 vaccine skeptics dying from the virus


FURTHER READING: (links at youtube video description)

3rd conservative radio host who condemned vaccines dies of Covid
Anti-mask activist who organized protests in Texas dies of COVID-19
Conservative radio host and vaccine critic dies of covid-19 complications
Phil Valentine, a radio host who scoffed at Covid, then urged his followers to get vaccinated, dies.
You asked, we’re answering: Your top questions about Covid-19 and vaccines
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19
Combined Effects of Masking and Distance on Aerosol Exposure Potential
Effectiveness of Mask Wearing to Control Community Spread of SARS-CoV-2
Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science
‘He loved his family’: Caleb Wallace dies after battle with COVID-19, pregnant wife says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19MQ1N_RGBE

[mthomas]

New Song: You Can Stick Your Vaccine Mandates Up Your A@@!

[mthomas]

[mthomas]

Hey Vivekananda,
Check out this website that tracks deaths, hospitalizations, health issues (ie heart attacks, miscarriages, etc.) for people that have gotten the China Virus Vaccine. Unfortunately we will probably see these numbers rising exponentially in the near future as we start to see the long term effects of these experimental and untested (long term) drugs...

Save the site as who knows, one day you might find yourself a statistic on this site as well. Although, as a fellow BBHF member I hope you don't.

Covid Vaccine Data Website

[mthomas]

And one more for your reading pleasure about the potential adverse effects of vaccines...
Here is the link to the website on the billboard below:
Adverse Reactions from Covid Vaccines Site

Some quotes from that site (and an answer to YOUR question on how long we should wait until we have answers to the long term side effects from these drugs):
"Unknown clinical implications of COVID-19 spike protein and S1 protein circulating in blood post-vaccination.

Unknown long-term effects – because the vaccine was rushed under emergency use authorization (EUA)—"Clinical trials alone take six to seven years on average to complete"—long-term effects are unknown.

This is not an all-inclusive list."

[solar33]

(12-06-2021 09:49 PM)Dreonar Wrote:  

(12-04-2021 07:55 AM)solar33 Wrote:  However, I have one question for you.

Why are you so invested in this whole debate?

Here you still are, verbal sparring with other members - to what end?

I wonder if you asked the same question from @smithnowt in another thread when he was pushing the other end of the spectrum?

Answer:
No, I did not because that was a different thread which was started as a share and developed into a discussion.
This thread was started purely to further that discussion but covers the same points with the same people making the same arguments.

With vivekananda posting (at that time) continuously by himself.

My question was, and still is, since I have had no reply, why bother with a new thread?

You follow?

(12-04-2021 07:55 AM)solar33 Wrote:  * I have made up my mind based on solid science and personal knowledge from within the NHS.
* I am not stupid, feeble-minded, gullible or deluded.
* I am not Antivaxx per say, I have had all my vaccines up until this plandemic.
* I'll wager the others, that are of the same opinion as me, on here, are the same, or similar.

And I'd wager that half of the most enthusiastic anti-vax zealots on here made their decision not based on science, but on emotions, and then set out to find proof to justify their decision.

Otherwise, if you rip apart someone's "number one reason" for their decision that they made based on "solid science", they'd want to reconsider their pov, no?

Here's an example:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...pid3322195

Answer:
You would wager that, would you?
On what grounds?

Most of the replies on these threads point to very informed individuals expressing their points of view.
Yet, to you, they are "anti-vax zealots"?

Classy!

Also, I had a look at the page you linked to.
You honestly think that you ripped apart someones number one reason on that page?
Seriously? You are referring to post #224, I take it?

Let's see;
"Those injuries and deaths they reference may or may not have anything to do with the fact that those people received a Covid vaccine".

Wow, that's compelling evidence there, huh?

The rest is throwing doubt on statistics which is fair enough, but can work both ways, but hardly "ripping apart" an argument. LOL!

Then there's this:
In other words, those 1165 who died from a cardiac disorder may have died anyway regardless of whether they received a Covid vaccine or not.

True, and the same can be said for those ludicrous Covid death numbers.

For example, lets try replacing the words "cardiac disorder" with 'positive covid test'.

In other words, those 1165 who died from a cardiac disorder may have died anyway regardless of whether they had a positive covid test, or not.

Anyway, you look at it, there was no ripping apart of any argument there.
Not unless you're really easily pleased.

(12-04-2021 07:55 AM)solar33 Wrote:  I have however, had a son vaccine damaged by the MMR vaccine which started a 12 year long
in-depth research into vaccines and the damages they can cause, and the lies the pharma
companies tell. I am not a newbie to this!

Would be interesting to hear more about your experience. Could be useful for others on here. Care to share?

Answer: NO!

You honestly want me share the experience of years of pain and frustration - with you?
GP visits, speech therapy visits, chats off-the-record with GP's and GSK pharma chemists
who told me the whole and open truth about the shit they were making?
12+ years worth?

Because you would find it "interesting"?

Not happening!

In any case, imo if OP wants to keep posting about his point of view, let him.
You may be tired of it, but it may be an interesting read to someone else.


Answer:
Where did you see me say I was tired of it, or that he should stop posting?

Point it out to me.

What I said was; why post this new thread and keep the same arguments going?
And, why invest so much time in it?

A simple question that never recieved an answer. It doesn't matter though.
It's really not important.

Hopefully, that clears things up for you.

Winston Churchill once said: “You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks.”

That was exactly what I was meaning in my post to vivekananda and that is exactly the advice I intend to take myself from here on.

Any replies to me on this thread will not be read as I have more important things to be doing, rather than giving my attention to barking dogs.

Solar33

[Dreonar]

I'm only going to respond to two things for others to see since you mentioned you won't be reading it anyway.

(12-04-2021 07:55 AM)solar33 Wrote:  The rest is throwing doubt on statistics which is fair enough, but can work both ways, but hardly "ripping apart" an argument. LOL!

I'm not "throwing doubt on statistics", I don't think there's anything wrong with that data.

I'm just pointing out that he (along with you, apparently) completely misunderstand that data and you both draw conclusions from it that doesn't logically follow.

I'm not going to go into the exact problem again, I think I explained the problem clearly enough here:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...pid3322297

If you look on the EudraVigilance site where this data is from, there's a very clear disclaimer about how this data is collected, what's the purpose of it and how it should be used.

You say "20,000 people died from the Covid vaccine", but that's just simply not true.

It's a basic logical fallacy.

Your lack of understanding of the fundamental problem with that argument doesn't make it any less invalid.

(12-04-2021 07:55 AM)solar33 Wrote:  Where did you see me say I was tired of it, or that he should stop posting?

Point it out to me.

What I said was; why post this new thread and keep the same arguments going?
And, why invest so much time in it?

I don't know, this sounds like a pretty clear suggestion to me that he should stop posting:

(12-04-2021 07:55 AM)solar33 Wrote:  Do you think you are going to change my mind?

So, why not just agree to disagree with the others and get back to marketing?"

Regarding the "why post a new thread" question, I believe the reason he started it was because @smithnowt accused him of trying to bury the "valid info" (lol) he posted in that thread.

I guess @Vivekananda tried to find people who agreed with him on this forum, but I think he came to the wrong place and I doubt he'll convince anyone of anything here...

[mthomas]

Covid Vaccine Site -

"VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data available for download at vaers.hhs.gov."

But keep taking the jabs/boosters...

[Dreonar]

@mthomas,

You guys keep carrying that data around as a bloody sword, but in all reality, it means nothing.

From https://vaers.hhs.gov:

"VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine."

"While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness."

You know how this data is collected? You take a drug and something happens to you after, it gets reported as a possible adverse reaction. It doesn't mean the drug caused it.

The purpose of collecting that data is that they can take the occurrence of certain conditions in those who received a drug...

And then compare it with the occurrence of the same health conditions in those who didn't receive the drug.

Let me put it this way:

If I drink a cup of Coldrex (which contains paracetamol), and then 2 months later I die of a heart attack, does this mean the Coldrex I drank 2 months ago gave me the heart attack?

Hey, maybe it's possible, but you wouldn't go around shouting it off the rooftops that nobody should ever drink Coldrex because it gives you a heart attack, would you?

But that's exactly what you are doing when you cite that data as a reason to not get vaxxed.

[Willmott]

YOU ARE A BRAIN WASHED M****

ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT ARE ALLOWING YOUR SLAVE MASTERS TO KEEP YOU UNDER THEIR CONTROL.

YOU, AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU, ARE DANGEROUS TO THE FREEDOM OF PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET WHO TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH AND TRLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON.

THE INJECTIONS ARE EITHER..

1 - PLACEBO'S
2 - A FLU VACCINE
3 - A KILL SHOT

EVERYTIME YOU TAKE YOUR INJECTIONS AND BOOSTER INJECTIONS, YOU ARE ROLLING THE BARREL OF A LIVE GUN.

GOOD LUCK! YOU WILL BE DEAD SOON.