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[thobias]

Quote:i have been schooling ya for a while

You mispelled mate , it was "trolling" for a while.

[California Kid]

why would i troll ya? you really think i go out of my way to listen to what you have to say? hahaha that's funny.....

EDIT: this is what popped up while i was writing this post. who is trolling who...... hahaha

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[chrisnosal]

(05-18-2015 02:53 PM)California Kid Wrote:  chris- stop with your shit in here. obviously some people know your name and haven't been impressed. you are hurt about the reviews people have about you and want to come in here and try to clean your name up a little? that's cool. wanna throw in one of your ebooks while your here? that's cool too.

after reading your comments, i'm not impressed either. i appreciate if you are truly in this business to help people but you aren't gonna help anyone including yourself with your attitude stating openly that people don't know what they are talking about while trying to convince others that you do.

Not everyone is going to ever be impressed, or like me, or you, or anyone. That's just the nature of life.

I don't have a problem with reviews, I have a problem with people saying condescending and arrogant things.

If someone says, "Chris's product doesn't do x, y, z" I respect that, and will actually try to learn from it and see if there's anything I can do to improve.

If someone says, "Chris is a piece of shit drunk who doesn't do x, y, z", certain parts of that, which I don't even need to point out, mean a person is just trying to act better than someone else, and has no concern for anything other than judging them.

When you say I'm trying to, "convince others I do", that's not at all what I do - in fact, it's the very thing I personally dislike about 99% of marketing.

I see most marketing as propaganda promises. I made it my goal to make my marketing democratic and transparent.

I offer people advice, much of it free, so they can make an informed decision, and can either vote "yes" or "no" for themselves.

Where did I say someone didn't know what they were talking about?

All I said is I don't personally agree with him being hateful and insulting toward another person, trying to use someone else as a mockery, and making no real effort or focus on helping anyone.

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I don't create my programs thinking, "will Joe like this?" or "will California Kid like this?".

I create things thinking, "I'm going to do my best to help people, be honest and upfront, and let them make an informed decision whether my materials will help them. Whoever finds them useful will go on to buy my more advanced programs, and anyone who doesn't won't."

Quite frankly, I don't care if you like or hate me, I didn't create a program for you, or to impress anyone - I created it to help people who want to be helped.

Just because you have an opinion about me or my work it's just that, your opinion.

Are you also going to tell me, out of everything I've done, because I'm assuming since you're judging me you've given my products a chance and gone through at least 1, you can't find even one piece of information that taught you something new, or helped you?

[chrisnosal]

I just say this because it sounds like some people are under the impression I created this program to please any one individually, or that their opinion of my work, right down to their personal opinions about audio quality, and its signifigance, should define whether I should or shouldn't be in business.

[California Kid]

oh god. let's face the fact chris because i am tired of you saying you do this and that to help people. you do it for yourself. you want to make money online. you know, you and your buddy joe(the op) has a lot in common. he too believes that he shouldn't be helping people for free. he believes like you do that if you're gonna help people, you should charge them for it. so that's why you do it right? to make money. you haven't admitted that yet. all ytou keep saying is you want to help people.

you come on this forum with absolutely no credibility, and start downing members here in order to boost yourself up from the bad reviews. anyone with a brain can figure out what is going on here chris.

i looked at your sales page buddy. you are teaching success psychology, marketing psychology, and oh. marketing techniques. if you knew anything about success and marketing psychology, you wouldn't be doing what you are doing on this forum right now. you don't sound like a guy that knows much about those topics yet you want to help people with it? as far as marketing techniques, yea, give away something for free. you have done that in this thread already giving away your ebook. other than that though you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself. is that the marketing techniques you teach?

you are right though. everyone will have their opinions. so will you with your, "they shouldn't have opinions if they don't know what they are talking about" attitude. everyone is arrogant and ignorant? well occording to you, nobody's opinion matters except you because evidently you are the only person that knows what he's talking about?

your foolish man. this is the first time i ever heard your name mentioned. never knew ya until you started posting here? i know more about your products now just by listening to ya than i ever would buying from ya and learning from ya directly. you're the pot calling the kettle black with everything you have said on this thread.

do yourself a favor and let it go. you obviously cant control your emotions and your emotions come through loud and clear in your responses here. you said you used to have a problem in the past where things used to get to ya? well let me clue ya in. you still have that problem.

tomorrow we will start another lesson in california kid's classroom if you are still here. i have a lot to teach ya and unlike you, i help people for free. no cost buddy. enjoy it.

[thobias]

Chris ,if you want to get that notorious credibility of that Californian kid, just post Crap WSO's here.The noobs here will swallow it like anything,you will be rich in green reps and others noobs will pretend you as a guru just like old Joe and dont forget to tell that you are at least 10-15 y experienced in seo .This will add to your credibility
I am enrolled in California Kid's troll classroom and enjoy every bit of it and its free too.The kids always provides fresh feed to troll daily

[California Kid]

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glad to still see ya in my classroom thobias. do you have any statements or questions? i wont consider your stalking me if you can just sit quietly in your chair.

[thobias]

(05-19-2015 02:50 PM)California Kid Wrote:  User(s) browsing this thread: California Kid*, DeltaKing, thobias, xtremegforce

glad to still see ya in my classroom thobias. do you have any statements or questions? i wont consider your stalking me if you can just sit quietly in your chair.

Why are you hiding Kid ?? Kid with a star ?

[chrisnosal]

(05-19-2015 02:49 PM)thobias Wrote:  Chris ,if you want to get that notorious credibility of that Californian kid, just post Crap WSO's here.The noobs here will swallow it like anything,you will be rich in green reps and others noobs will pretend you as a guru just like old Joe and dont forget to tell that you are at least 10-15 y experienced in seo .This will add to your credibility
I am enrolled in California Kid's troll classroom and enjoy every bit of it and its free too.The kids always provides fresh feed to troll daily

I'm not looking for "credibility". My products are right for some, and not others. What I keep wondering is:

1) Why are you so angry with me? Why do you talk down to newbies like you're better than them, just because you've been studying and learning longer?

2) What makes someone a "guru". Are you the judge of that? Just because you say someone is or isn't, that makes it so? If you read my previous post, you know I didn't develop my stuff to "prove" anything to anyone.

I built it to help people, if it helps you great, if it doesn't, you know quickly from my free content - you vote for yourself.

I don't care what people think of me, or how they see me - all I care about is I've created something that helps them to the best of my ability.

I prefer not to use the number of years experience and all that stuff. That's like a computer programmer bragging about all their degrees, versus just showing what they've created, and letting people vote for themselves.

You have your opinion, and that's wonderful that we live somewhere we're all allowed to express ourselves, but you're acting like I should or shouldn't put my product out based on you, or any other person's reasoning.

What I wonder is, what are you so angry about? What's driving you to have such a strong reaction, when all I did is post a product on a message board? And why are you giving me so much of your time and energy if you don't like me or my products?

Whatever you do, I wish you the best of luck in your success, and whatever you think of me, as long as you find what you're looking for, and it works for you, that's all that matters, and even if I sell products, I'd fully encourage you to do what's going to help you the most.

Thanks so much for caring enough to take time and energy out of your day to share your feelings with me! :)

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And where did you get that I believe I shouldn't be helping people for free? outside this forum:

http://www.chrisnosal.com - a free copywriting course requiring no opt-in

http://www.chrisnosal.com/pdfbrand/pdfbr...riting.pdf - a free ebook given away at the end of the course, also no opt-in

You'll also notice there's no advertising in my free content, just short links at the bottom so people who want to learn more are aware of it.

I didn't come on this forum to do anything other than answer to you directly, because I'm sure you'll agree if people say something, everyone deserves a chance to speak their piece back.

Where did I say, "they shouldn't have their opinions if they don't know what they're talking about?" - we're all ignorant on some level.

My beliefs on this are, no matter how smart you are, there's always more to learn, so everyone doesn't know what they're talking about on some level, I listen to everyone.

If you control your emotions, why would you ever feel the need to bring someone else down, or respond to someone with anger, hatred, or judgement? You sound incredibly angry about something, but all I've done is post something.

You talk down to someone like you're better than someone else. If you have control of your emotions why would you respond with anger, judgement, and hate, and offer anything other than kindness and compassion that comes from a desire to want to help others learn and grow?

Not to be mean, but I'll say this one more time:

You don't need to like my products, I didn't create them so you'd like them, you don't have to like me or my information, no one says you did. If you don't like them, there's millions of "S*****" products out there (from anyone's perspective), so if it's your goal to help people, go to as many of those as you can, and warn people about them to stay away from them.

I'm just not really sure what your goal is here in focusing this much attention on me, my website, and my products.

[Quasar]

Oh wow! A touchy-feely dude who thinks he’s an online hero!

Okay Nasal,

Thanks JoeMLM and gave you +5 for such an entertaining thread but a piece of garbage of a "product?" I have been laughing my a.ss off while reading the posts in this thread. You’re an online product creator and wannabe seller, Nasal?

Perhaps in a galaxy far, far away!

I won’t waste much time with you. You’re a know-nothing nobody and I did listen to ALL of the painful intro audio and a couple of minutes of the others.

Well Nasal, you’re a liar and a bullshit artist!

You’ve never read ANY of the books by the authors you claim. I know because I HAVE read them. And any of the authors you mentioned would roll over in their graves if they saw this crap you dare to call a product.

But wait! Is this even a product?

You see Nasal, you never really get clear what the f*ck you are trying to do in this whimsical “offer.”

Is it Zen? No. Marketing? No. Psychology? No. Motivational? No.

Shit, I don’t have a clue! It isn’t a product – that much is for sure. And that is the opinion of an expert copywriter who has had a hand in or developed hundreds of real products.

This? It is more a collection of ramblings and rants about things you have perhaps small inclinations about but no real expertise of any consequence.

And that’s the thing with the Internet – there is no barrier to entry.

Any idiot who thinks he knows something about anything can call “stuff” s/he threw together a “product.” This ain’t a product – not in my world.

I actually knew you were a poser when I saw this as your “offer page.” I laughed my a.ss off at the buffoon who thinks he knows how to write copy. You weren’t REALLY ever going to try to sell this for $44 x 3, were you? You would have had a 100% refund rate if you had sold this for $2!

Who the f*ck wrote this piece of shit:



Really, one half second, huh? $1,000 a day or nothing, huh? Wow! You are so full of crap, it isn't even funny. In my 30+ year career, I have never written a headline this bad!

But let me give you some A, B, C info on the house, Ace:

1.) The second you posted a defense of your “product,” you killed it. It became 100% non sequitur. No product owner ever wins forum skirmishes by making even one post defending their nobility or the value of their product. You killed your own crap with EIGHT posts (as of this writing - I am sure there will be more) trying to do it, Nasal.

2.) I love California and all the other posters. Cal and I have had our skirmishes. I read his stuff and he walks-the-walk. He makes money and I give him that credit. He and the other posters in this thread ALL make more money than you ever will – nobility notwithstanding. What you haven’t figured-out yet – with all your self-professed Zen wisdom – is that he and everyone else posting here have been baiting you. Yep, they have purposely been antagonizing you into making yourself look like a bigger fool than you already are. (Just thought I would let you in on that.)

3.) What the f*ck were you trying to do with these hours of crap, anyway? Surely, you cannot possibly be that much in love with your grating voice and endless rambling, can you? And you don’t know shit about anything having to do with online selling, which if you haven’t guessed, is what we are all in the business of doing.

4.) You totally overlooked the golden triad of putting a product together, and no, I won’t tell you what that means. Figure it out Mr. Wannabe Online Zen Master.

Okay, this took me 12 minutes to write – that’s 2 minutes longer than I normally allow for writing a post.

Forget about the 12 minutes though. Where do I send you my bill for wasting my time torturing me while listening to your bullshit?

As for the status of your product: Deleted with prejudice! (And great pleasure!)