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11-10-2014, 10:09 AM
Post: #21
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(11-10-2014 02:54 AM)jennatalia Wrote:  Binary trading type offers pay out $200+ CPA commissions for first deposit.

There's a reason why they can afford this :)
As 'jennatalia' pointed out, the payouts to you as a website owner for funneling new clients is exceedingly generous. It isn't because Binary brokers have gobs of excess money and just love to hand out excess money to new clients. The brokerage edge per trade is HUGE. In most cases, between 10% to 20% per trade depending on how great their marketing department can attract new lemmings. ---Proof to follow---

That would be like paying a $1K (or even $2K) commission on $10,000 of any volatile stock for a hold time of an hour. Right, who would do that???? That's what is so confounding when you see the rhetoric associated with these "guaranteed" money makers in Binary options.

Let me give you the actual numbers for a [generous] binary firm, one that pays out 80% of funds wagered. (The larcenous group promoted by the pdf in this thread pays out only 60% of the total)

Do not walk away from this method. RUN!!!!!

The premise of this and similar methods is completely incorrect. To be a winner with this scheme is completely dependent on chance because of the short time frame involved and the "real" commission costs built into binary option providers. What most people who are tantalized by this seeming phenomena is-- they don't know the numbers.

It indeed is simpler for people to only making a decision to buy or sell--- but that only makes more profit for the less-than-scrutable (yet legal) operators of Binary Option brokerages.

Let's say Abbot Binary (theoretically the MOST generous binary firm available) has 1000 clients who are interested in the price movements of the Eur/Usd. Half are willing to bet $100 that it is going to close higher in the next hour, the other 500 are betting $100 each that it will close lower. This means that the total "hold" or bet pool is $100,000. On their platform the Eur/Usd payout ratio is 80% for those who chose the correct direction for the trade. This is crucial to remember. This means that the "broker" pays out only $90K to the winning 500 players and keeps $10K for themselves. The explanation and numbers are below-----

Key Point: The winners get back their original bet PLUS the payout percentage of the pool traded. Losers get nothing.

Let's say that the Eur/Usd closes lower. After the hourly close, the 500 "traders" that bet that the Eur/Usd would close higher end up getting $0.

The winners receive back their original stake ($100) + 80% of their original stake for a total of $180. For the winners the total payout would be [500x$180] $90,000. With $10,000 to be raked off to Abbot Binary. Which probably has at least 20 of these pools a day. A small Binary options firm makes $1MM to $5MM a month!!!

While this example is based on the idea of a balanced market situation, there are various other scenarios that entail riskier "holds" for the binary firm due to volatile market conditions that would leave it more exposed. Their solution for times like that -- increase the payout to themselves/lower it to the customer. The firm is ALWAYS looking out for their risk profile, not the client's.

But with a "base" commission of 10% or larger, these firms can't help but make huge money--IF they can find the lemmings who'll take a chance on the red or green arrow with their money.

That is why they pay so much to anyone who will get people to sign up to their platforms. People are idiots.

Don't be one.

The solution:

Bet with the house.

Become/or become financially associated with, the "house", a Binary Option company.

No professional traders would ever trade Binary Options.


AbeLincolnBart
PS: I've previously had part interest in a Binary Options firm. Accent on "previously". Potential legal troubles are not worth it for me. But the money cranked out by the firm right now is incredible. But Binary options firms are only taking money from the "suckers" who quickly run out. After you run out of the suckers...." Lawsuits..... ALB




"Success leaves clues, but rarely within reach of a couch."
---Blair Warren
11-10-2014, 11:00 AM
Post: #22
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That's sort of the beauty of binary options houses.

Suckers don't have money to hire lawyers and sue them. Also a good reason why many of them are in legal havens. I would only trade in a binary option house if they were headquartered in the US.
11-10-2014, 02:20 PM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2014 02:21 PM by ThaiJack.)
Post: #23
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THANKS AbeLincolnBart for the clearest, a very intelligent explanation of the binary market.

It's obvious the only way to make money in this arena is to become a broker thief! No thanks.

+5 reps to you for your excellent analysis and review.




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