Courageous enough to be metaphysical ??

***Znj1377*** · 05-09-2019, 09:40 AM

(05-08-2019 10:13 PM)sprawn Wrote:
(05-08-2019 09:39 PM)Znj1377 Wrote: Hm... I watched this and I have a little bit to say bout it.

This guy is saying that there is no way out and that is false. There are many ways out even on youtube and there are some... and there is no such thing as the only way. Now if I tell you 1st what is the way out... That is simply self realization in enlightment turns that would be caleed the I AM moment, in cristianity it would be called salvation... and so on. That is the normal state of human being that is not in Sin (to be in sin just simply means to not be god or your soul one or the other is the same) and yes if you missed it YOU ARE GOD you just dont know it. And the words "The Truth Will Set You Free" are true!. I can give you an example of what that means. Lets say that you believe that the earth is flat or round ball. You can defend one or the other truth how much you want but if you want to Know Yourself if youre Honest to Yourself... You dont really trully know for your self that one or the other is true when you realize that and ask your self honesty you get your answer from inside out and then you know for the 1st time what you really are, you also know that for the 1st time in your life You Are Alive... You Are Awake.
Now lets see how we can get to that in multiple ways.

No 1. Is that it happens naturaly... like in Jungs example

No 2. The was I picked and my path... is what one guy back in 2007 created for free for everyone 2 see. His name is Jonathan aka Adampants. He disinged a way to self without any meditation needed. (but its not for all people it worked for me and it most definetly is not the only path its just one of them)

No 3. Mike Dillard and his Peacefull Warior path. This one may be closer to people that are in sports... I makde a pack and upped it here:

http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...-Pdf-Video

No 4. Win Hoff the Iceman. also suited for sport people espeshually if they want to up their performance.

http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...ght=iceman

5. If you want to go down this path with meditation for example you can use something like this.
Kosifreedom

6. Also Allan Watts work:

http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...Watts-Pack

7 Edgar Tolle:

http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...ck-21-5-Gb

And so on. There are many more examples. This dudes way is not the only way! There are many ways the goal is the same. To Be in this Body... Before you die. How to Be all the time or how to call it out... I do not know that one yet. Some of what I know I shared with you it may be usefull for some one ;)

Yeah he's a bit daffy that way. Purification of thought, word and deed (physical) is required.

All these guys but a few are missing the cleansing stuff that's why they are still aging and dying, no matter how wise they seem.

I really do not care what you think or believe. To think or even to believe is not to Know! Why do you think that all and every info is provided to you by outside sources? Maybe... cus they do not want you to look the other way? What are you saying can be accomplished by a being that IS all the time in human form. But like you would know what that means :) And I have not met no one like that. So I can tell you that in this moment on this earth there are no Enlightenment beings that would fit your criteria. There are just Enlightement moments... that people have. Or in other words you drift in or out from it. Never when you want... all ways spontaneous then you let things go so that they can happen for them selfs.

And one last thing. We have a loot of good masters here right now and many are in the rising... some good some bad. wich means some will take you to your self others will bleed you dry from your money and misguide your mind to infinity if you follow them.
There is a simple way to find out the good ones.... they are those that do not point their finger out side of them selfs to others saying how bad are they. They do not put any attention bad things that can hurt others. They strive on Rising You Up! without that.
But as I said. For those that are seeking... your reward is great! But getting there usually means that you will have to crash down to the bottom so that you will build up your self again. This time bouild your house on a ROCK of your Soul... not on a illusion or a thought in your mind.
But any ways... good luck with your "Purification of thought" and also "missing the cleansing stuff" if you get any insight on that please let me know :)

***Lumos*** · 05-09-2019, 11:05 AM

Dear Znj1377:
You have clearly risen through much to attain your present level and thank you for sharing your thoughts here.

What Jayson points out is a starting point for the largest number of folks - those who are indeed trapped their entire lives in the prison of consensus/mainstream 'reality' - which is built of, and built upon lies and the power of deception.

So, as a starting point and a means to make a little progress it is a good contribution on his part and well worth checking out for those who need that encouragement.
Is it an ultimate 'answer' ?? No. Nor did I share the pointers to it as such.

Indeed the truth is within - and remains buried under so much excess that most can never un-bury the clear path to their very own genuine, sacred selves.

Self-honesty is absolutely required, Yes.
And again - for most folks either they must approach this shocking (for them...) realm by gentle guidance - or have the snots beaten out of them by the cosmic 2x4 until all their resistance is truly wiped out - and in bottoming out the light of knowing may be seen and allowed to abide...or not, sadly.

I have personally seen too many folks who have glimpsed the incredible light of inner knowing - and even their own connection with source - yet turned from it and chose to live in fear and bafflement instead.

There is also the concept found in 'A Course in Miracles' which is 'forgiveness to destroy'; so often employed as the means to justify ego's power by those who claim to be above others in their evolution - yet remain seeking 'power over' rather than 'power with'.

And of course there are also those who find ways to 'sell enlightenment' - which is in and of itself an open confession of its opposite.

All this having been said - I see Jayson's sharings as a way to inspire those who desire the 'red pill' ways to make a start, and as such I am grateful to see that he shares his info.

***Znj1377*** · 05-09-2019, 02:04 PM

(05-09-2019 11:05 AM)smithnowt Wrote: Dear Znj1377:
You have clearly risen through much to attain your present level and thank you for sharing your thoughts here.

What Jayson points out is a starting point for the largest number of folks - those who are indeed trapped their entire lives in the prison of consensus/mainstream 'reality' - which is built of, and built upon lies and the power of deception.

So, as a starting point and a means to make a little progress it is a good contribution on his part and well worth checking out for those who need that encouragement.
Is it an ultimate 'answer' ?? No. Nor did I share the pointers to it as such.

Indeed the truth is within - and remains buried under so much excess that most can never un-bury the clear path to their very own genuine, sacred selves.

Self-honesty is absolutely required, Yes.
And again - for most folks either they must approach this shocking (for them...) realm by gentle guidance - or have the snots beaten out of them by the cosmic 2x4 until all their resistance is truly wiped out - and in bottoming out the light of knowing may be seen and allowed to abide...or not, sadly.

I have personally seen too many folks who have glimpsed the incredible light of inner knowing - and even their own connection with source - yet turned from it and chose to live in fear and bafflement instead.

There is also the concept found in 'A Course in Miracles' which is 'forgiveness to destroy'; so often employed as the means to justify ego's power by those who claim to be above others in their evolution - yet remain seeking 'power over' rather than 'power with'.

And of course there are also those who find ways to 'sell enlightenment' - which is in and of itself an open confession of its opposite.

All this having been said - I see Jayson's sharings as a way to inspire those who desire the 'red pill' ways to make a start, and as such I am grateful to see that he shares his info.

I rly was over with this topic but you Deserve a Reply!

Whell... I cant really say much against that what you said. Different people take things in differently beside their experience is based on their experience in life and also their own comprehension of things in that moment that is exactly right for them and is stupid as F*** to you. But then you remember that you also ware in their place... So maybe I lashed out a little bit 2 hard I could choose to represent my point of view in another way. But that was in that moment, I rly get pissed off by people who say that their way is the only way... Christian Church did that. also Hitler did that... any many others how well did that play out... but still you did a very good reflection back... preaching that my way or one of the ways that I know of is the right way... going totaly over understanding is also bullshit. So fruit from that kind of a approach is none existant. Basicaly something to work on. Nice catch smithnowt :) Ty ;)

***sprawn*** · 05-09-2019, 03:08 PM

There is a secret technology built into every human body, that is dormant but comes alive when love joy peace patience gentleness kindness faithfulness and self control or anything congruent is consumed like a drink and or food by a soul. This assimilation pushes out all that would oppose it. That is the cleansing and purification process that leads to oneness with the divine. No woo woo mystical BS.

***theenagar*** · 05-14-2019, 10:16 PM

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