Ryan Deiss made me mad

[Sumiko]

Months ago I sent an e-mail to Ryan Deiss telling him I had a product I wanted him to help me market. A few weeks ago I got an e-mail from him saying he can help me with building a sales funnel that usually costs between 5k-20k depending on the needs of the website but he isn't going to talk to me unless I pay a $100 "real person" refundable deposit that shows I am serious. I send him an e-mail telling him I'm happy to pay his "real person" deposit but I just want to be upfront that there is no way I can afford 5k-20k for anything so please tell me if he still wants to pursue this because I don't want to waste his time and I don't want my time wasted. He sends me an e-mail back saying he thinks I'm a good fit (I sent him some details about what I do and have set up) and that he'll have someone else call me. A few weeks later I get a call from a woman and she asks me to tell her what I have to work with. We talk for about an hour and she tries to close a sale getting me to pay 5k-20k. What a waste of time.

[mikeee]

LOL. That is Ryan Deiss. His job is to get high-ticket leads and make them pay.

[tommy86]

Hi Normal,

I am sorry to hear that. But I would like to tell you the sad truth is that ALMOST ALL BIG NAMES GURUS DO IT THE SAME WAY.

You see, I have paid around $10,000 so far to attend live workshops from gurus to gurus. At the end of the day, they will try to sell you their high end Mentorship or Coaching that costs around $15,000 to $25,000 if you want them to coach you on a more personal level.

Besides paying that much money, if you want to leverage on their resources such as their (list, technology or their name, endorsement), they might pay another $5,000 or so. My advice to you is this, if you want someone to help you with your funnel or promotion or endorsement, try your best not to look for big names gurus.

You can just go to warriorforum or any other internet marketing forums, and you find someone who is just starting out to get famous. What I mean is those little names gurus. Or those who have a small list but they are not that famous. Then approach them with your offer.

What I do is that I offer them an opportunity to have their funnel or product as my back end offer. This way, you are almost guaranteed to pay less for your endorsement and promotions.

Please save your $100 to pay for Ryan, instead use it to pay someone like I mentioned above. I think around $300 till $500 is enough to get you started.

Hope this help.

[tommy86]

Hi Normal,

I am sorry to hear that. But I would like to tell you the sad truth is that ALMOST ALL BIG NAMES GURUS DO IT THE SAME WAY.

You see, I have paid around $10,000 so far to attend live workshops from gurus to gurus. At the end of the day, they will try to sell you their high end Mentorship or Coaching that costs around $15,000 to $25,000 if you want them to coach you on a more personal level.

Besides paying that much money, if you want to leverage on their resources such as their (list, technology or their name, endorsement), they might pay another $5,000 or so. My advice to you is this, if you want someone to help you with your funnel or promotion or endorsement, try your best not to look for big names gurus.

You can just go to warriorforum or any other internet marketing forums, and you find someone who is just starting out to get famous. What I mean is those little names gurus. Or those who have a small list but they are not that famous. Then approach them with your offer.

What I do is that I offer them an opportunity to have their funnel or product as my back end offer. This way, you are almost guaranteed to pay less for your endorsement and promotions.

Please save your $100 to pay for Ryan, instead use it to pay someone like I mentioned above. I think around $300 till $500 is enough to get you started.

Hope this help.

[Sumiko]

Thanks tommy86. the email I received said if I'm not convinced by the end of the he'll give me double my money back right there on the spot. Here is a copy of the last part of the email he sent me.
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If you’d like to have us walk you through our process and help you find a way to deploy the same system and tactics in your business, just go HERE to submit your “Real Person Deposit” of $100.

I’m sure you know I’m not interested in your $100.

I don’t want it, and it's refundable under any and all circumstances.

It’s just to keep the time wasters at bay and I’ll return it to you as soon as you hang up the phone. (If you can't make the appointment, I'll return it as well.)

Actually - I’ll do you one better.

If you’re not absolutely AMAZED by what you learn during this brief call, I’ll give you DOUBLE the deposit back right there on the spot.

Therefore, you can’t lose.

Talk soon,
Ryan Deiss
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