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[chrisnosal]

Thanks so much Hatter! Definitely appreciated!

I love that more and more people are downloading and experiencing my materials, and the irony is the haters are the ones adding the gasoline that keeps the fire going, but they can't stop, because they feel like they have to win the argument, and prove they're better than me.

Watch, another round of insults is coming lol, along with another flood of free traffic, but because I encourage it, and they get nothing out of all their time trying to insult me, they have no power, and have done nothing but waste their time trying writing something that never needed to exist in the first place, and only makes the world a slightly worse place to live.

[phoenix9]

Hi Chris,

You act like wise man. But since your product is not good and not complete (yes, i've read it), do you think it is wise to teach it to other people? Don't you think it's like blind man guide other blind men?
Think this for a second and answer my question. And if you wise enough, you'll find the answer.

[chrisnosal]

Well, I don't feel I act wise, but I appreciate you inferring that I come off that way, even if it appeared I was trying to. I'm just me, and I'm just wanting to understand the reason for their hate, bitterness, and anger.

Posting a product someone doesn't believe in, and giving it to hundreds of people intending for everyone to hate it, is not in any way an intelligent idea in itself. The premise doesn't even make sense, unless you have cruel, sociopathic intentions.

When someone else posted my product for free, I decided the best thing I could do is share as much value as I can, because out all options, regardless of quality, it's the best I could do to give others value for their time coming here, again trying to do my best amidst all the anger and hate.

I am offering advice. Like anyone, am human, and I am aware of this, so I put my content front and center so people can decide for themselves. Some like it, some don't.

Do you, among billions, consider yourself so enlightened that you should be advising me on how to live my life, and I should follow specifically your advice, because you have certain thoughts or beliefs that go through your head?

I'm asking because you ask me, "do you think it is wise to teach it to other people? Don't you think it's like blind man guide other blind men?".

The answer is yes. We all learn from each other, and everything has something to offer everyone. The negativity of some posters on this forum offered me a test of how comfortable I am in my own skin, and whether I could remain calm, respectful, and unaffected while being attached by negativity and judgement - all of that serves to make me stronger.

So by condemning anything as useless, and having no educational value, even if indirectly, is unwise in itself.

You're going to come across things in life, and it's your responsibility to make choices for yourself. I do the best I can, put everything out in the open, and whether you choose to pick up my product, and how you use your time and energy is up to you.

For example, if I found a product not useful, or to my linking, I wouldn't slander the reviewer, or try to criticize or judge them - I'd be asking myself, "I made a choice that I would prefer not to make again, what steps do I need to take to make sure I don't end up in this situation again?".

When I find the answer to that question, I've learned something from the situation, I've learned how to make better decisions, and grown.

Again, someone posted a product, you choose of your own free will to do everything you did, I didn't even try to get you to do anything, so if you didn't feel it was the right choice, it's your responsibility to make a better decision for yourself in the future.

By blaming me for anything, you're taking responsibility for yourself and your own actions off of you.

In effect you're saying, "it's your fault for wasting my time. I didn't like your product. You shouldn't made this product (as if I should have rules where I'm not permitted to do what I want or believe with my life), because that would've been easier for me and my life, and it's your fault I was inconvenienced."

Wiseness comes down to personal responsibility.

When you can say respectfully, "Chris, I didn't find your program useful, but I decided to take time out of my day, you're free to create whatever you want, just like I am, you didn't hide anything from me, or force me to do anything, so it's not your fault. I made all my own choices, and I'm going to learn and grow from this experience", and take responsibility for your own actions, then learn and grow from them, without getting bitter, angry, or judgmental at the person who created them, because, again, you made all your own choices, that's when you're truly wise.

I haven't hid anything from you, or misled you in any way, and I give enough to my regular visitors to make an informed decision, so there is absolutely no wrong doing here.

Unless you're suggesting you personally, or some other person personally not being satisfied with my product counts as wrongdoing, because they feel they made an unproductive or unwise decision, and want me to take responsibility for their choices, which in itself would be unwise, because it would prevent you from learning and growing as a person by having to take responsibility for your choices, and their consequences.

You're right, sorry I thought for more than a second lol, but I found the answer - I'm not responsible for what you think of me, and you're not responsible for what I think of you.

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I guess I see myself trying to understand all of you, wanting to learn from you, and counter the hate and judgement premise this thread started off under with kindness and compassion.

Do I always get it perfect? Probably not, but nobody here seems to be interested in offering real advice or encouragement, just judge and condemn others they personally feel aren't "good enough" or up to their standards.

I'd love for you guys to share with me some of your work, and materials, that came from following your experiences and passions. There's something to learn from everyone, and I love to learn just as much as anyone.

[phoenix9]

Sorry for not reading your LOOOOONG post Chris because I should waste my time WISELY.

My advice for you, STOP preaching and STOP teaching your shallow knowledge to other people!

Enough said.

[chrisnosal]

Hey Phoenix,

Thanks so much for taking the time to write me a post!

I'll respect you and keep it short by paraphrasing:

Basically, it says no one forced you to do anything, and you choose of your own free will to do what you do. I'm free to do as I want, and you're making me responsible for your choices, attacking me, and telling me I should change to please you, but that's not my job - it's your job to say, "this isn't what I want, I'm going to go somewhere that has what I want", and take responsibility for your own actions, instead of trying to control others.

You say I should stop preaching, but you're preaching to me advising I should do what you say just on the premise alone that you decided that's how things should work?

If 8,000 KKK members all decide I should hate black people, I should just listen to them because they spoke?

I just need more information to make an informed decision. If you can advise me I'd appreciate it.

I can understand if you don't like reading a lot, and simply react to others without getting all the information, but please could you do me a small favor and explain why I hurt you so much, or why you feel the need to change me to make yourself happy.

Thanks so much again for taking the time to write me. I love you, and I only say that because I know without a my reaction the whole goal of your post is rendered useless, so I'll say it again:

Even though you're hating on me, I love you anyway, because I see you as a person that matters, while you see me as worthless.

If it will make you feel better, stronger, more powerful, or whatever, or helps you feel better in any way, feel free to attack me and my materials again.

[jacques.sa]

Sh*t Joe this is by far the nicest thread I have read in a long time! It contains all the elements needed for a block buster Hollywood production with Mr Famous Bieber in the leading role!

[chrisnosal]

Among everything out there, people are giving so much time and attention to it. I love it lol!

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Thanks for your post jacques! :)