06-11-2013, 12:48 AM
06-11-2013, 01:53 AM
@ENIC
You found the current link to the PDF....
You might as well have the link to the webby replay:
It basically explains the WSO system and then pitches the InstantOffliner upsell.
If someone thinks of buying Instant Offliner:
The WP install there is still not fully secured, so I could have a peek...
It basically copies Andrew Patricks prospecting process.
So you might look for his WSO here.
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...ck-or-Stan
The sales process video is not delivered yet, but it might also be very close to Andrew's process, as there is also a client questionaire involved.
Basically, Jen and Brad copied most of the AP process and want to re-sell it to the WSO crowd, who aren't long enough around to know AP is banned from WF... and they want to resell his stuff for $500 a pop.
They won't use an impressive MindMap at the second meeting like Andew, but kind of a review proposal of what's needed to bring the client up to date. This basically moves into selling the services to them through the proposal.
Good intro, but then...
You will AVOID coming over as a SALESPERSON at all costs! his would ruin your status as a trusted consultant with them. Many clients WILL take your services - but they won't see you as their marketing guru anymore, but a clever sales person who sold them the services they know they NEED. This will make your service sales vulnerable to competition...
Cheers, Johnny63
P.S. Sorry Jen - being VIP here doesn't help ;-)
You found the current link to the PDF....
You might as well have the link to the webby replay:
Magic Button :
It basically explains the WSO system and then pitches the InstantOffliner upsell.
If someone thinks of buying Instant Offliner:
The WP install there is still not fully secured, so I could have a peek...
It basically copies Andrew Patricks prospecting process.
So you might look for his WSO here.
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...ck-or-Stan
The sales process video is not delivered yet, but it might also be very close to Andrew's process, as there is also a client questionaire involved.
Basically, Jen and Brad copied most of the AP process and want to re-sell it to the WSO crowd, who aren't long enough around to know AP is banned from WF... and they want to resell his stuff for $500 a pop.
They won't use an impressive MindMap at the second meeting like Andew, but kind of a review proposal of what's needed to bring the client up to date. This basically moves into selling the services to them through the proposal.
Good intro, but then...
You will AVOID coming over as a SALESPERSON at all costs! his would ruin your status as a trusted consultant with them. Many clients WILL take your services - but they won't see you as their marketing guru anymore, but a clever sales person who sold them the services they know they NEED. This will make your service sales vulnerable to competition...
Cheers, Johnny63
P.S. Sorry Jen - being VIP here doesn't help ;-)
06-11-2013, 03:29 AM
(06-11-2013 01:53 AM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]@ENICThanks for the share. I recognized Brad's voice right off the bat. Heard him on several CB sales pages, my guess he is another "Michael Jones". Not that there is anything wrong with getting a voice actor for your presentation. I could be wrong though.
You found the current link to the PDF....
You might as well have the link to the webby replay:
It basically explains the WSO system and then pitches the InstantOffliner upsell.
If someone thinks of buying Instant Offliner:
The WP install there is still not fully secured, so I could have a peek...
It basically copies Andrew Patricks prospecting process.
So you might look for his WSO here.
/Thread-GET-OFFLINE-MARKETING-by-BlackHatDog-or-AP-or-Andrew-Patrick-or-Stan
The sales process video is not delivered yet, but it might also be very close to Andrew's process, as there is also a client questionaire involved.
Basically, Jen and Brad copied most of the AP process and want to re-sell it to the WSO crowd, who aren't long enough around to know AP is banned from WF... and they want to resell his stuff for $500 a pop.
They won't use an impressive MindMap at the second meeting like Andew, but kind of a review proposal of what's needed to bring the client up to date. This basically moves into selling the services to them through the proposal.
Good intro, but then...
You will AVOID coming over as a SALESPERSON at all costs! his would ruin your status as a trusted consultant with them. Many clients WILL take your services - but they won't see you as their marketing guru anymore, but a clever sales person who sold them the services they know they NEED. This will make your service sales vulnerable to competition...
Cheers, Johnny63
P.S. Sorry Jen - being VIP here doesn't help ;-)
06-11-2013, 03:45 AM
@romand27
Brad knows what he says... I got told by several live attendees of the webby.
Jen redirected most of the "how-to" questions to Brad - so he's the one who knows and she's somewhat like a shield for him.
He definitely is NOT Andrew Patrick. I compared the voices... But he might be one of APs disciples (DogScout, Dexx, Vagabond007).
Cheers, Johnny63
Brad knows what he says... I got told by several live attendees of the webby.
Jen redirected most of the "how-to" questions to Brad - so he's the one who knows and she's somewhat like a shield for him.
He definitely is NOT Andrew Patrick. I compared the voices... But he might be one of APs disciples (DogScout, Dexx, Vagabond007).
Cheers, Johnny63
06-11-2013, 03:54 AM
(06-11-2013 03:45 AM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]@romand27Thanks for the correction.
Brad knows what he says... I got told by several live attendees of the webby.
Jen redirected most of the "how-to" questions to Brad - so he's the one who knows and she's somewhat like a shield for him.
He definitely is NOT Andrew Patrick. I compared the voices... But he might be one of APs disciples (DogScout, Dexx, Vagabond007).
Cheers, Johnny63

06-11-2013, 04:21 AM
There was a flaming thread in WF that was available in Goolge's cache a few more days.
It basically said what the webby prooved:
Jenny doesn't really know what she talks about.
She was confident in handling the flames, but when you hear her in the vids or on the webby you know, she's not the real deal.
She is just a 'speaker' who gathers followers for Brad. He's the one in the know. He's confident in what he says and he takes the lead if necessary.
If you know APs sales process, then you know it takes balls to go that route, at least when you tell them your quote (about 2k/mo retainer just for coaching/consulting). Frank Kern once said: You get exactly what you can demand without showing the big grin on your face.
Cheers, Johnny63
It basically said what the webby prooved:
Jenny doesn't really know what she talks about.
She was confident in handling the flames, but when you hear her in the vids or on the webby you know, she's not the real deal.
She is just a 'speaker' who gathers followers for Brad. He's the one in the know. He's confident in what he says and he takes the lead if necessary.
If you know APs sales process, then you know it takes balls to go that route, at least when you tell them your quote (about 2k/mo retainer just for coaching/consulting). Frank Kern once said: You get exactly what you can demand without showing the big grin on your face.
Cheers, Johnny63
06-11-2013, 09:56 AM
(06-11-2013 01:53 AM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]@ENICthanks johnny for the webinar! that F***** b!tch fuked me over so i'm going to fuk her back
You found the current link to the PDF....
You might as well have the link to the webby replay:
It basically explains the WSO system and then pitches the InstantOffliner upsell.
If someone thinks of buying Instant Offliner:
The WP install there is still not fully secured, so I could have a peek...
It basically copies Andrew Patricks prospecting process.
So you might look for his WSO here.
/Thread-GET-OFFLINE-MARKETING-by-BlackHatDog-or-AP-or-Andrew-Patrick-or-Stan
The sales process video is not delivered yet, but it might also be very close to Andrew's process, as there is also a client questionaire involved.
Basically, Jen and Brad copied most of the AP process and want to re-sell it to the WSO crowd, who aren't long enough around to know AP is banned from WF... and they want to resell his stuff for $500 a pop.
They won't use an impressive MindMap at the second meeting like Andew, but kind of a review proposal of what's needed to bring the client up to date. This basically moves into selling the services to them through the proposal.
Good intro, but then...
You will AVOID coming over as a SALESPERSON at all costs! his would ruin your status as a trusted consultant with them. Many clients WILL take your services - but they won't see you as their marketing guru anymore, but a clever sales person who sold them the services they know they NEED. This will make your service sales vulnerable to competition...
Cheers, Johnny63
P.S. Sorry Jen - being VIP here doesn't help ;-)

mirror of webinar:
[hide]http://mirrorstack.com/6u7cru1zqa74[/hide]
06-11-2013, 06:22 PM
@aashian
Did you buy Instant Offliner then?
I was able to have a peek in the members area. Very unprofessional to host the videos on the same site. It seems she does support all by herself too. It does seem to me the flames on WF were correctly targeted.
A few people also reminded me of how she was directing know-how questions straight to Brad in the webby... so Brad seems to be a banned WF member too. He is definitely NOT Andrew Patrick (I did a voice compare). Andrew also wouldn't go into sell mode after the rewiew...
Cheers, Johnny63
Did you buy Instant Offliner then?
I was able to have a peek in the members area. Very unprofessional to host the videos on the same site. It seems she does support all by herself too. It does seem to me the flames on WF were correctly targeted.
A few people also reminded me of how she was directing know-how questions straight to Brad in the webby... so Brad seems to be a banned WF member too. He is definitely NOT Andrew Patrick (I did a voice compare). Andrew also wouldn't go into sell mode after the rewiew...
Cheers, Johnny63
07-11-2013, 07:50 PM
Does anyone have the first 4 fear emails she sent out after registration? I'll give major reps for these.
12-01-2013, 02:37 PM
Links are down,any please re up!