(01-01-2013 08:22 PM)jippymel Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2013 08:13 PM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]Look guys - even Frank Kern is cool about others sharing his products!
He knows that >99% of non-buyers won't ever use his stuff! This will happen here too.
Money creates commitment - so if you spend 2k for Mass Control, you are probably much more motivated to use this stuff in your business.
Even smaller investments create some commitment. I only buy software if I'm inclined to use it. All the stuff here is a big library for me.
So try some other thought trains - and leave them if they don't fit your business model.
Try some software - and buy it if you really want to use it professionally (and trust the programmer enough to see the program as a long term business asset).
That's what I see in Irene's EzM0bi1eS1teGenerat0r 4. Long term development, steady increase in functionaliy, dedicated support.
Anyone sees this traits in this programmer here?
Cheers, Johnny63
See, that's what I am saying, I mean, dude, people from BBHF BOUGHT my product, and it was wide the fuck open for them. They did not buy it because they couldn't get it. And they paid only $10. If you realize that your product is actually shit and you want to be greedy enough to squeeze a quarter until the eagle screams, then you really don't need to be making products. I can take $500 and invest it in a product, make $1000 off of it and let it be shared all over the place... Why? because it makes my name bigger and my next product could be total shit and I will still make $1000 off of it.
IM is about making money sure, but its also about learning what other people want, learning from each other, and I will tell you right now, it doesn't matter how secure your shit is, if it is that good, it will be shared, and if it is complete shit, it will be shared. You might as well just clam the fuck up and learn what everyone is saying about your product and fix what sucks.
The most inspirational speech I have ever seen in IM. You should make a WSO about this :)
@Creator of Universe
Thanks, and not because I am going to or not going to download it. I say thanks because that's what we are about, sharing and putting a boot in the ass of those who bitch about their stupid product being shared. They should be happy we even noticed their bullshit. I am happy as hell when I see anything on here that I had a hand in. It makes me proud that someone even wanted to download it and see if they could make a dime off of it. That doesn't mean I am going to just stop selling it somewhere on the internet.
That's my buddy :-)
Thanx Creaor of Universe!
You hold the flag that makes our forum a great place to be...
Cheers, Johnny63
@generic
Your comment was pure gold. That is exactly how people should think. Make a F****** WSO about it and then make a dime, someone's going to share it and then move on to the next product.
@jbrown63: Thanks buddy...
I have learnt one thing in my life bro,.... "If we love something, its also our responsibility to take care of it"....
(01-01-2013 08:36 PM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]That's my buddy :-)
Thanx Creaor of Universe!
You hold the flag that makes our forum a great place to be...
Cheers, Johnny63
We should have more 'noble soul' like you here, buddy
@generic:
Who do you mean with the speech?
I just finished Autoresponder Madness - and marketing definitely IS all about understanding your audience. Seems the programmer here is not able to understand US here. Makes himself foes instead of friends.
He should ask himself:
-Who would this software benefit most?
-Where are these people?
-What are these people thinking, feeling etc?
-make customer avatars
-build marketing specific to each customer avatar
-pick prospects up where they linger and educate them on their problem
-show how the software solves it
-ask clients what new features they would like
-develop further and sell upgrades
-->this would then be considered a good an sound biz model
Selling it as a 'shiny object' on WF is merely a test if ANY inerest in such software exists at all.
This is just a BizOpp type model that doesn't last for long.
He doesn't even ahve to worry about US here - as we are not his target group! If he does, the software will be short-lived.
Cheers, Johnny63
(01-01-2013 08:32 PM)generic Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2013 08:22 PM)jippymel Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2013 08:13 PM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]Look guys - even Frank Kern is cool about others sharing his products!
He knows that >99% of non-buyers won't ever use his stuff! This will happen here too.
Money creates commitment - so if you spend 2k for Mass Control, you are probably much more motivated to use this stuff in your business.
Even smaller investments create some commitment. I only buy software if I'm inclined to use it. All the stuff here is a big library for me.
So try some other thought trains - and leave them if they don't fit your business model.
Try some software - and buy it if you really want to use it professionally (and trust the programmer enough to see the program as a long term business asset).
That's what I see in Irene's EzM0bi1eS1teGenerat0r 4. Long term development, steady increase in functionaliy, dedicated support.
Anyone sees this traits in this programmer here?
Cheers, Johnny63
See, that's what I am saying, I mean, dude, people from BBHF BOUGHT my product, and it was wide the fuck open for them. They did not buy it because they couldn't get it. And they paid only $10. If you realize that your product is actually shit and you want to be greedy enough to squeeze a quarter until the eagle screams, then you really don't need to be making products. I can take $500 and invest it in a product, make $1000 off of it and let it be shared all over the place... Why? because it makes my name bigger and my next product could be total shit and I will still make $1000 off of it.
IM is about making money sure, but its also about learning what other people want, learning from each other, and I will tell you right now, it doesn't matter how secure your shit is, if it is that good, it will be shared, and if it is complete shit, it will be shared. You might as well just clam the fuck up and learn what everyone is saying about your product and fix what sucks.
The most inspirational speech I have ever seen in IM. You should make a WSO about this :)
(01-01-2013 08:47 PM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]@generic:
Who do you mean with the speech?
I just finished Autoresponder Madness - and marketing definitely IS all about understanding your audience. Seems the programmer here is not able to understand US here. Makes himself foes instead of friends.
He should ask himself:
-Who would this software benefit most?
-Where are these people?
-What are these people thinking, feeling etc?
-make customer avatars
-build marketing specific to each customer avatar
-pick prospects up where they linger and educate them on their problem
-show how the software solves it
-ask clients what new features they would like
-develop further and sell upgrades
-->this would then be considered a good an sound biz model
Selling it as a 'shiny object' on WF is merely a test if ANY inerest in such software exists at all.
This is just a BizOpp type model that doesn't last for long.
Cheers, Johnny63
(01-01-2013 08:32 PM)generic Wrote: [ -> ]
I'm Referencing to @Jippymel
(01-01-2013 08:47 PM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]@generic:
Who do you mean with the speech?
I just finished Autoresponder Madness - and marketing definitely IS all about understanding your audience. Seems the programmer here is not able to understand US here. Makes himself foes instead of friends.
He should ask himself:
-Who would this software benefit most?
-Where are these people?
-What are these people thinking, feeling etc?
-make customer avatars
-build marketing specific to each customer avatar
-pick prospects up where they linger and educate them on their problem
-show how the software solves it
-ask clients what new features they would like
-develop further and sell upgrades
-->this would then be considered a good an sound biz model
Selling it as a 'shiny object' on WF is merely a test if ANY inerest in such software exists at all.
This is just a BizOpp type model that doesn't last for long.
He doesn't even ahve to worry about US here - as we are not his target group! If he does, the software will be short-lived.
Cheers, Johnny63
(01-01-2013 08:32 PM)generic Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2013 08:22 PM)jippymel Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2013 08:13 PM)jbrown63 Wrote: [ -> ]Look guys - even Frank Kern is cool about others sharing his products!
He knows that >99% of non-buyers won't ever use his stuff! This will happen here too.
Money creates commitment - so if you spend 2k for Mass Control, you are probably much more motivated to use this stuff in your business.
Even smaller investments create some commitment. I only buy software if I'm inclined to use it. All the stuff here is a big library for me.
So try some other thought trains - and leave them if they don't fit your business model.
Try some software - and buy it if you really want to use it professionally (and trust the programmer enough to see the program as a long term business asset).
That's what I see in Irene's EzM0bi1eS1teGenerat0r 4. Long term development, steady increase in functionaliy, dedicated support.
Anyone sees this traits in this programmer here?
Cheers, Johnny63
See, that's what I am saying, I mean, dude, people from BBHF BOUGHT my product, and it was wide the fuck open for them. They did not buy it because they couldn't get it. And they paid only $10. If you realize that your product is actually shit and you want to be greedy enough to squeeze a quarter until the eagle screams, then you really don't need to be making products. I can take $500 and invest it in a product, make $1000 off of it and let it be shared all over the place... Why? because it makes my name bigger and my next product could be total shit and I will still make $1000 off of it.
IM is about making money sure, but its also about learning what other people want, learning from each other, and I will tell you right now, it doesn't matter how secure your shit is, if it is that good, it will be shared, and if it is complete shit, it will be shared. You might as well just clam the fuck up and learn what everyone is saying about your product and fix what sucks.
The most inspirational speech I have ever seen in IM. You should make a WSO about this :)
You hit the nail on the head, that is exactly what I meant, I just have too much of a foul mouth to put it as eloquently as you.
Yep, he shows the attitude of a good marketer.
Knowing your audience and not worrying about anyone else.
Cheers, Johnny63