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(05-22-2021 05:50 AM)Bobhenry Wrote: [ -> ]PART 1 OF A USER REVIEW

Disclosure: I was offered a copy in exchange for a review. I can see lots of questions on this thread so decided to provide a quick review now, to be followed by results later on.

WHAT IS THIS?
It's a service in two parts: a) an easy method of uploading music tracks to major streaming platforms like Spotify in a way that is intended to get them accepted.
(This is easier said than done if you've never tried it. So success here will be of huge value.)

and

b) A way of delivering plays to your uploaded music using an SMM-type panel service. Plays then provide revenue and if the math works out as it should, you'll collect more than you pay, and it's happy days.

This review is about the first part. I signed up and after a few minor hiccups, got into the uploader part of the service. This was very straightforward to use - I've tried other uploaders without much success in the past, but this one was easy. Note that you have to have a .wav file with your music, and album cover art. I used my own, but you can source this from places like Fiverr easily enough.

It costs $6 pa to keep your music uploaded, and I experienced some issues with payment, eventually getting a credit card to work. You then have to wait, and I believe it can take up to 2 weeks for music to go live on Spotify.

So far this has worked pretty well, but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. I will report back once the track is live and I can use the music plays service.

Thank you so much for the detailed review mate.

I went ahead and made your account issue solved so you no longer have to face the issues you did in the beginning.

There's a lot of improvements to come and to work on and this is a work in progress and I understand anyone and all questions that come up and we will do our best to address those especially from people who are skeptical and unsure if this is still working etc.

I appreciate your review mate and I will offer you a bonus if you PM so you can claim it.

Now, in terms of people who want to get cover art for your songs you can simply use Canva.com and create one on there for free without paying anyone on Fiverr.

If you can't seem to get the sizing right you can search on google for an image resizer online application and adjust the size of the cover art that way as well.

So there's a lot of ways to go around not paying for everything. You just need to be creative and focused.

I will eventually provide a guide on how to properly perform this business model and I will post the link to the guide in the forum origin post so you guys can check it out for free and help you guys out successfully.

Thank you for considering this and look forward to working with all of you!

(05-22-2021 08:32 PM)DigitalAssetsGuide Wrote: [ -> ]I manage anumber of musicians, I'd love a 1 week or 10day trial before I go all in on the service, if this is possible, let me know and I'll sign up immediately. I think 3 days isn't enough to actually test this well and give a full review and check out it's benefits.

Hi mate.

Sure thing reach out to me via PM and I will work something out for you with no issues.

Thanks!

(05-22-2021 04:46 AM)navdeep13 Wrote: [ -> ]First of all great thread design and it describe everything.Im too doing this myself so i can give good review.Count me in buddy if any review copy remaining

Sure thing mate.

PM me your email and I will go ahead and have my team get you a review copy to check out our app.

I look forward to your input and suggestions.

Cheers!

(05-23-2021 12:16 AM)zaff Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-22-2021 10:03 PM)MickJaglet Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks zaff for being so alert. I'm looking forward to the answers. I gave you reps, well deserved.

Also: can someone explain to an ignorant person (me) why is it that spotify will close accounts if they offer this service? do I miss something?

Thanks

Because you can fake a stream just like you can fake a click on your own ads. If you had a website and adsense ads on it and get paid what people click on your ads, then you would be tempted to click on your ads or have someone else click on them but it will almost always result in getting your adsense account suspended. Companies don't like losing money, especially fraudulently.

If you go to the search button on this forum and type in Spotify and search you will see there was another BSO offering similar stuff, including songs and streams. The provider stopped responding to comments on his thread.

Spotify and Google have the money, the knowledge, the tech, and the will to find out if people are abusing their systems. They literally have the smartest software engineers that get paid six figures to figure out this stuff.

All I am saying is be careful with your money. I haven't seen any proof of payment or long-term use of the service provided. For all I know, the service provider could be a cool dude but those big claims need to be backed up.

To everyone who read this comment. Zaff is completely right.

His concerns are what will help me and my team make a dramatic improvement in the delivery and explanation of the service.

A member like Zaff is what keeps us on our creative flow and making sure everything doesn't go unanswered.

Now in terms of the comments above. The truth is there I agree.

The only difference is that once you take into account that Major labels also fake their streams and dozens of other popular artists do so as well...

The business in its self is totally corrupt and Spotify is controlled and owned by these major labels as well.

I am going to attach articles linking this info so you guys can see that what we are doing in this business model isn't wrong and if done right like we are doing with MusicLyft then you will turn a profit and make a handsome amount of passive income so if you choose to listen and take in the details and commit.

Zaff is a member I appreciate because he makes us think and provides a healthy argument and that's something I truly respect.

Here are articles that show what I discuss in this reply above and I will also link that in the BSO main thread to people who are just clicking into this and may be interested.

SONY PLAYING THE FAKE STREAM GAME:
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/feature...me-834746/

JUSTIN B. NEW SONG YUMMY WAS HITTING CHARTS WITH FAKE STREAMS:

https://cardozoaelj.com/2020/01/26/landi...-industry/

LABELS CONTROL THE SPOTIFY EMPIRE:

“65 percent of Spotify is owned by six parties: the firm’s co-founders, Daniel Ek and Martin Lorentzon (30.6 percent of ordinary shares between them); Tencent Holdings Ltd. (9.1 percent); and a run of three asset-management specialists: Baillie Gifford (11.8 percent), Morgan Stanley (7.3 percent), and T.Rowe Price Associates (6.2 percent). Interestingly, two large labels, Sony Music Entertainment and Universal Music Group own between six percent and seven percent of Spotify (Sony around 2.35 percent and Universal around 3.5).”

Incentives are intertwined on multiple fronts. “Tencent Holdings owns 10 percent of Universal, which in turns owns around 3.5 percent in Spotify, which in turn owns around nine percent in Tencent Music Entertainment, which in turn is part-owned by Universal’s two main rivals (Warner and Sony), but remains majority-owned by Tencent Holdings, which in turn owns 9.1 percent of Spotify.”

Tencent already has its own social medial platform, music offerings, payment systems, and e-commerce platforms. It is one of the goliaths in the world market that focuses on many different products. In addition to the vast digital infrastructure Tencent has, it also has an understanding and deep penetration in the Chinese market. With regulatory restrictions on information and content, Tencent might be better positioned to take learnings from Spotify’s platform to build a product that would integrate into its existing systems. With Tencent’s large shareholder position and competing incentives, Spotify should be aware of the potential of disintermediation."

RESOURCES TO PROVE THIS:

https://www.wral.com/a-new-spotify-initi.../17822647/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music...fy-955388/

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/spotify-statistics/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmarkman/...3cfe65878a

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/31/spotify-108-million/

https://techcrunch.com/2014/08/13/spotif...handising/

I hope this helps everyone understand the motivation for this service and why we think it's a business model we can all win with.

Cheers!

NEW UPDATE ALERT:

We have updated the main BSO thread on the first page and we will continue to actively listen to all of you amazing people and improve as we go.

The support and excitement are incredible and I and my team look forward to helping everyone out with this business model!

Cheers!

(05-23-2021 02:04 AM)fjk23.control Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2021 12:16 AM)zaff Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-22-2021 10:03 PM)MickJaglet Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks zaff for being so alert. I'm looking forward to the answers. I gave you reps, well deserved.

Also: can someone explain to an ignorant person (me) why is it that spotify will close accounts if they offer this service? do I miss something?

Thanks

Because you can fake a stream just like you can fake a click on your own ads. If you had a website and adsense ads on it and get paid what people click on your ads, then you would be tempted to click on your ads or have someone else click on them but it will almost always result in getting your adsense account suspended. Companies don't like losing money, especially fraudulently.

If you go to the search button on this forum and type in Spotify and search you will see there was another BSO offering similar stuff, including songs and streams. The provider stopped responding to comments on his thread.

Spotify and Google have the money, the knowledge, the tech, and the will to find out if people are abusing their systems. They literally have the smartest software engineers that get paid six figures to figure out this stuff.

All I am saying is be careful with your money. I haven't seen any proof of payment or long-term use of the service provided. For all I know, the service provider could be a cool dude but those big claims need to be backed up.

To everyone who read this comment. Zaff is completely right.

His concerns are what will help me and my team make a dramatic improvement in the delivery and explanation of the service.

A member like Zaff is what keeps us on our creative flow and making sure everything doesn't go unanswered.

Now in terms of the comments above. The truth is there I agree.

The only difference is that once you take into account that Major labels also fake their streams and dozens of other popular artists do so as well...

The business in its self is totally corrupt and Spotify is controlled and owned by these major labels as well.

I am going to attach articles linking this info so you guys can see that what we are doing in this business model isn't wrong and if done right like we are doing with MusicLyft then you will turn a profit and make a handsome amount of passive income so if you choose to listen and take in the details and commit.

Zaff is a member I appreciate because he makes us think and provides a healthy argument and that's something I truly respect.

Here are articles that show what I discuss in this reply above and I will also link that in the BSO main thread to people who are just clicking into this and may be interested.

SONY PLAYING THE FAKE STREAM GAME:
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/feature...me-834746/

JUSTIN B. NEW SONG YUMMY WAS HITTING CHARTS WITH FAKE STREAMS:

https://cardozoaelj.com/2020/01/26/landi...-industry/

LABELS CONTROL THE SPOTIFY EMPIRE:

“65 percent of Spotify is owned by six parties: the firm’s co-founders, Daniel Ek and Martin Lorentzon (30.6 percent of ordinary shares between them); Tencent Holdings Ltd. (9.1 percent); and a run of three asset-management specialists: Baillie Gifford (11.8 percent), Morgan Stanley (7.3 percent), and T.Rowe Price Associates (6.2 percent). Interestingly, two large labels, Sony Music Entertainment and Universal Music Group own between six percent and seven percent of Spotify (Sony around 2.35 percent and Universal around 3.5).”

Incentives are intertwined on multiple fronts. “Tencent Holdings owns 10 percent of Universal, which in turns owns around 3.5 percent in Spotify, which in turn owns around nine percent in Tencent Music Entertainment, which in turn is part-owned by Universal’s two main rivals (Warner and Sony), but remains majority-owned by Tencent Holdings, which in turn owns 9.1 percent of Spotify.”

Tencent already has its own social medial platform, music offerings, payment systems, and e-commerce platforms. It is one of the goliaths in the world market that focuses on many different products. In addition to the vast digital infrastructure Tencent has, it also has an understanding and deep penetration in the Chinese market. With regulatory restrictions on information and content, Tencent might be better positioned to take learnings from Spotify’s platform to build a product that would integrate into its existing systems. With Tencent’s large shareholder position and competing incentives, Spotify should be aware of the potential of disintermediation."

RESOURCES TO PROVE THIS:

https://www.wral.com/a-new-spotify-initi.../17822647/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music...fy-955388/

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/spotify-statistics/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmarkman/...3cfe65878a

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/31/spotify-108-million/

https://techcrunch.com/2014/08/13/spotif...handising/

I hope this helps everyone understand the motivation for this service and why we think it's a business model we can all win with.

Cheers!

I appreciate the clarifications.

I've read through the Justin Bieber article provided and I noticed what was the concern of many people and that is the fake streams and how it will affect the business.

Quote:In addition to the potential economic disadvantage to these artists, there is also a legality concern. For example, using fake accounts to create fake streams is illegal, and while there hasn’t been any major lawsuit just yet, it has been suggested that affected artists may be able to use Section (a)(4) of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which pertains to the offense of “accessing a computer to defraud and obtain value.”[25] Additionally, Spotify’s terms and conditions strictly prohibit artificial play count increases by bots, scripts, or other automated processes.[26] Although there hasn’t been significant legislation in the United States thus far, Norway conducted a major investigation last year involving the streaming service TIDAL. Okokrim, the Norwegian economic crime unit began the investigation after a report by Dagens Næringsliv, a Norwegian newspaper, accused the company, of manipulating the streaming statistics of Beyonce’s “Lemonade” and Kanye West’s “Life of Pablo” to increase royalty payments–albums to which Tidal owns the exclusive rights.[27]

Some in the music industry have attempted to challenge fake streams. In June 2019, major labels and publishing groups owned by Universal, Sony, and Warner created a “Code of Best Practices” to combat fake streams.[28] Through the code, these labels and publishing groups explain that fake streaming has the potential to “cause economic harm to streaming service providers, rights holders, artists, and advertisers,” as well as “distort the media’s and fans’ impressions and understanding of the popularity of particular recordings… by influencing algorithmic playback results.”[29] The code, though not legally binding, consists of twenty-one points, and Spotify and Amazon Music have both supported it.[30] Critics, however, have contended that the pledge does not really do much; rather, it essentially amounts to promises by streaming services to monitor and mitigate any fake streaming they find and for labels to share any information related to suspicious activity they notice–both of which are actions the streaming services and labels already do.[31] These critics argue that stricter steps should be taken, such as: obliging the major record companies to invest in stream-farm investigations and any resulting litigation; implementing chart penalties for any artist that engages in stream fraud; and requiring major labels to implement employee penalties for any staff member that engages in stream fraud.

Some people are aware of the problem and nobody knows if a change will be made regarding fake streams and when that will be and most importantly how will it affect your service?

I also found out that Spotify users are reporting artists which is another aspect that could be problematic. Your competition might report you. Here is the post:


Lastly, please be more clear with your entire service. You mentioned music creation in one post. Also, what are the costs involved?

Cheers

(05-23-2021 06:55 AM)zaff Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2021 02:04 AM)fjk23.control Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-23-2021 12:16 AM)zaff Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-22-2021 10:03 PM)MickJaglet Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks zaff for being so alert. I'm looking forward to the answers. I gave you reps, well deserved.

Also: can someone explain to an ignorant person (me) why is it that spotify will close accounts if they offer this service? do I miss something?

Thanks

Because you can fake a stream just like you can fake a click on your own ads. If you had a website and adsense ads on it and get paid what people click on your ads, then you would be tempted to click on your ads or have someone else click on them but it will almost always result in getting your adsense account suspended. Companies don't like losing money, especially fraudulently.

If you go to the search button on this forum and type in Spotify and search you will see there was another BSO offering similar stuff, including songs and streams. The provider stopped responding to comments on his thread.

Spotify and Google have the money, the knowledge, the tech, and the will to find out if people are abusing their systems. They literally have the smartest software engineers that get paid six figures to figure out this stuff.

All I am saying is be careful with your money. I haven't seen any proof of payment or long-term use of the service provided. For all I know, the service provider could be a cool dude but those big claims need to be backed up.

To everyone who read this comment. Zaff is completely right.

His concerns are what will help me and my team make a dramatic improvement in the delivery and explanation of the service.

A member like Zaff is what keeps us on our creative flow and making sure everything doesn't go unanswered.

Now in terms of the comments above. The truth is there I agree.

The only difference is that once you take into account that Major labels also fake their streams and dozens of other popular artists do so as well...

The business in its self is totally corrupt and Spotify is controlled and owned by these major labels as well.

I am going to attach articles linking this info so you guys can see that what we are doing in this business model isn't wrong and if done right like we are doing with MusicLyft then you will turn a profit and make a handsome amount of passive income so if you choose to listen and take in the details and commit.

Zaff is a member I appreciate because he makes us think and provides a healthy argument and that's something I truly respect.

Here are articles that show what I discuss in this reply above and I will also link that in the BSO main thread to people who are just clicking into this and may be interested.

SONY PLAYING THE FAKE STREAM GAME:
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/feature...me-834746/

JUSTIN B. NEW SONG YUMMY WAS HITTING CHARTS WITH FAKE STREAMS:

https://cardozoaelj.com/2020/01/26/landi...-industry/

LABELS CONTROL THE SPOTIFY EMPIRE:

“65 percent of Spotify is owned by six parties: the firm’s co-founders, Daniel Ek and Martin Lorentzon (30.6 percent of ordinary shares between them); Tencent Holdings Ltd. (9.1 percent); and a run of three asset-management specialists: Baillie Gifford (11.8 percent), Morgan Stanley (7.3 percent), and T.Rowe Price Associates (6.2 percent). Interestingly, two large labels, Sony Music Entertainment and Universal Music Group own between six percent and seven percent of Spotify (Sony around 2.35 percent and Universal around 3.5).”

Incentives are intertwined on multiple fronts. “Tencent Holdings owns 10 percent of Universal, which in turns owns around 3.5 percent in Spotify, which in turn owns around nine percent in Tencent Music Entertainment, which in turn is part-owned by Universal’s two main rivals (Warner and Sony), but remains majority-owned by Tencent Holdings, which in turn owns 9.1 percent of Spotify.”

Tencent already has its own social medial platform, music offerings, payment systems, and e-commerce platforms. It is one of the goliaths in the world market that focuses on many different products. In addition to the vast digital infrastructure Tencent has, it also has an understanding and deep penetration in the Chinese market. With regulatory restrictions on information and content, Tencent might be better positioned to take learnings from Spotify’s platform to build a product that would integrate into its existing systems. With Tencent’s large shareholder position and competing incentives, Spotify should be aware of the potential of disintermediation."

RESOURCES TO PROVE THIS:

https://www.wral.com/a-new-spotify-initi.../17822647/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music...fy-955388/

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/spotify-statistics/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmarkman/...3cfe65878a

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/31/spotify-108-million/

https://techcrunch.com/2014/08/13/spotif...handising/

I hope this helps everyone understand the motivation for this service and why we think it's a business model we can all win with.

Cheers!

I appreciate the clarifications.

I've read through the Justin Bieber article provided and I noticed what was the concern of many people and that is the fake streams and how it will affect the business.

Quote:In addition to the potential economic disadvantage to these artists, there is also a legality concern. For example, using fake accounts to create fake streams is illegal, and while there hasn’t been any major lawsuit just yet, it has been suggested that affected artists may be able to use Section (a)(4) of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which pertains to the offense of “accessing a computer to defraud and obtain value.”[25] Additionally, Spotify’s terms and conditions strictly prohibit artificial play count increases by bots, scripts, or other automated processes.[26] Although there hasn’t been significant legislation in the United States thus far, Norway conducted a major investigation last year involving the streaming service TIDAL. Okokrim, the Norwegian economic crime unit began the investigation after a report by Dagens Næringsliv, a Norwegian newspaper, accused the company, of manipulating the streaming statistics of Beyonce’s “Lemonade” and Kanye West’s “Life of Pablo” to increase royalty payments–albums to which Tidal owns the exclusive rights.[27]

Some in the music industry have attempted to challenge fake streams. In June 2019, major labels and publishing groups owned by Universal, Sony, and Warner created a “Code of Best Practices” to combat fake streams.[28] Through the code, these labels and publishing groups explain that fake streaming has the potential to “cause economic harm to streaming service providers, rights holders, artists, and advertisers,” as well as “distort the media’s and fans’ impressions and understanding of the popularity of particular recordings… by influencing algorithmic playback results.”[29] The code, though not legally binding, consists of twenty-one points, and Spotify and Amazon Music have both supported it.[30] Critics, however, have contended that the pledge does not really do much; rather, it essentially amounts to promises by streaming services to monitor and mitigate any fake streaming they find and for labels to share any information related to suspicious activity they notice–both of which are actions the streaming services and labels already do.[31] These critics argue that stricter steps should be taken, such as: obliging the major record companies to invest in stream-farm investigations and any resulting litigation; implementing chart penalties for any artist that engages in stream fraud; and requiring major labels to implement employee penalties for any staff member that engages in stream fraud.

Some people are aware of the problem and nobody knows if a change will be made regarding fake streams and when that will be and most importantly how will it affect your service?

I also found out that Spotify users are reporting artists which is another aspect that could be problematic. Your competition might report you. Here is the post:

Code:

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Accounts/Fake-streams/td-p/4840813

Code:

https://support.spotify.com/ro-en/article/report-content/

Lastly, please be more clear with your entire service. You mentioned music creation in one post. Also, what are the costs involved?

Cheers

Sure thing mate.

I totally understand the risks involved and it makes sense as with every business there's some sort of issues that may come about.

Knowing that the major labels like Sony and others are owners of Spotify and are fluffing up their streams with this loophole gives me an indication that there isn't going to be a solution for a while unless the playing ground changes etc.

So I hope for the best in this matter and we will adapt as the time comes and new rules get put into play.

For now, let's eat up what we can and generate that cash flow.

In regards to the offering of song creation, we aren't making it a must for this service but to accommodate our clients who wish to stay with us and not look for other services for that step alone can simply reach out to us via PM and I will make sure that the prices of the packages are priced fair and competitive so they can always turn a profit from this business model.

I look forward to seeing more BBHF members join us on this journey and that being said...

Thank you all for your time and if anyone has any questions please post a reply here or simply PM me and I or my assistant will do our best to accommodate you to the best of our abilities.

Cheers!

Hello OP,

What is the exact cost of this service? Please detail it for some of us noobs. Do you have membership levels, etc.
Upon subscribing to your service, how long till someone sees results? etc.

Thanks.

Ok this is how I see it after almost 24 Hours into this Special For BBHF members trial..

When you want to order the streaming service the Minimal amount to put on the site
is a $100 deposit > after 3 days the memberships $29 dollar and there is a PUSHDEAL
right after your FREE SIGNUP for $47 that you should buy were you investing in this!

So @ almost $170,= it is still a question how much do you make and if thy won't
find out you are cheating as than the REVENUE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO!

Think they are here to steal the BBHF Forum members and others from their money, leaving you with absolutely NOTHING!

FOR $170 THERE ARE AMAZING BSO'S in the forum with RESULTS instead of QUESTIONS, Nice talking,
and getting frustrated...

My advice spend $180,= on a GB that is running inside BBHF, for a Amazon Course making $50.000,00
Daily on Amazon, and other e-Commerce!

This is my honest opinion and I say DONT BURN YOUR WALLET as it DON'T FEEL GOOD!

Making easy $47 and $29 the first 3 days getting at least 50 signups cause we trust our BBHF and its BSO runners...... ;-P

*** RUN FORREST , RUN *** For BSO Takers and Owner after x amount of signups,

I am taking bets! PM me for the ratings! hahaha

CopyMyCash ;-P

(05-24-2021 05:14 AM)CopyMyCash Wrote: [ -> ]Ok this is how I see it after almost 24 Hours into this Special For BBHF members trial..

When you want to order the streaming service the Minimal amount to put on the site
is a $100 deposit > after 3 days the memberships $29 dollar and there is a PUSHDEAL
right after your FREE SIGNUP for $47 that you should buy were you investing in this!

So @ almost $170,= it is still a question how much do you make and if thy won't
find out you are cheating as than the REVENUE IS ABSOLUTELY ZERO!

Think they are here to steal the BBHF Forum members and others from their money, leaving you with absolutely NOTHING!

FOR $170 THERE ARE AMAZING BSO'S in the forum with RESULTS instead of QUESTIONS, Nice talking,
and getting frustrated...

My advice spend $180,= on a GB that is running inside BBHF, for a Amazon Course making $50.000,00
Daily on Amazon, and other e-Commerce!

This is my honest opinion and I say DONT BURN YOUR WALLET as it DON'T FEEL GOOD!

Making easy $47 and $29 the first 3 days getting at least 50 signups cause we trust our BBHF and its BSO runners...... ;-P

*** RUN FORREST , RUN *** For BSO Takers and Owner after x amount of signups,

I am taking bets! PM me for the ratings! hahaha

CopyMyCash ;-P

I don't understand where you got this theory from mate but it's completely false.

Like I said we are in testing and listening mode and we want to listen to the suggestions of the members to adjust as we move forward.

For you to jump to conclusions isn't right and doesn't make total sense because you can't back up anything you think is going on in your head.

I can simply close down the thread and refund everyone if you think that I am the so-called fraud you make this out to be.

The fact that everyone isn't understanding that just like any other business there will be minor hick-ups and issues then why expect the total opposite from this thread.

Let me make a clear statement.

IF YOU WANT YOUR ACCOUNT CLOSED AND FULLY REFUND PLEASE GO AHEAD AND TELL ME AND I WILL PROCEED TO REFUND EVERYONE AND CLOSE THIS THREAD.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED FROM PEOPLE I ASSOCIATE WITH AS A PLACE FOR FAMILY TO SHARE KNOWLEDGE AND opportunity!

SO I WILL WAIT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE.


CopyMyCash I messaged you on whatttapp and we can finish our discussion there but for you to throw us under the bus without testing anything... That I don't need to ruin my rep by anyone because of your nonsense.

WHOEVER WANTS A REFUND LET ME KNOW!

I WILL CLOSE THIS THREAD IF THAT IS REQUESTED FROM THE BUYER WHO ALREADY JOINED!

Good Luck!