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People are losing jobs, many will be bankrupted, many will be in debts, people are losing sanity, anxious afraid, many have and will lose their loved ones.

Help people in those areas.

I think maybe the thread needed a better question.

Perhaps we could ask how can we offer help to those in need?

How can we help clients sustain their business while helping those in need?

What industries are the best to serve in this crisis?

How can I/we have the best impact?

I'm sure there are more even better questions, but that is a start :-)

(03-17-2020 05:39 AM)equalizer Wrote: [ -> ]Not my thing to profit from other peoples misery, sickens and death...

Nor should it be yours!

~E~

I agree 100%

(03-18-2020 12:03 PM)layna61524 Wrote: [ -> ]WARNING: This is a long-winded post.

I don't know that I'd call someone a "customer" (in the real sense of the word) in a pandemic.

Yes, they are buying something but in a critical situation where people's health and product scarcity is involved, it's more than that.

There is no good reason for people to hoard supplies that everybody needs simply because they can. Except for greed and selfishness in cornering a market.

It takes a certain kind of person to impose scarcity and price-gouge critically needed items in a national/worldwide crisis.

COVID-19 affects every one of us on all continents; so far it looks like only sub-Saharan Africa hasn't (yet) been impacted as much. And that's just a matter of time because northern Africa has reported cases.

I suppose you've read or heard about the guy who sought to profit from the hand sanitizer and other emergency supplies. He bought in BULK (by the pallets!). He and his relatives made the rounds buying products locally then ordered everything else they could online. Over 17,000 items sitting stashed in his garage -- and later moved to a storage facility --- while people who really needed them went without.

Kudos to Amazon for putting a stop to the heartless, price gouging goons.

Ironically, these are the very people who would squeal the loudest if the tables were turned.

UPDATE TO THE COVID-19 CLOWN:

This guy was standing in his garage with thousands of hand sanitizer bottles in the background, pouting like a victim because his ruse was shut down before he could get started.

Well, you may be glad to learn that the COVID-19 Creep suddenly had a change of heart and it must have been the more than 4,000 comments to his story on a Yahoo! article that helped him to see the light.

Or maybe he got scared that someone as profit-driven as he was would come in the night and violently relieve him of that stash. Even at the expense of his family.

He ended up donating the items on Sunday.

READ MORE HERE:

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PERSONAL STORY

Now, here's why I feel the way I do ...

I vividly remember, as a youngster, my experience with Hurricane Betsy in the 1960s in New Orleans.

I and my dad, mom, sister and brother were all roused awake one night during the most active part of Hurricane Betsy. We were rescued from our home and taken to a neighbor's across the street. They had the only 2-story home on the block. My dad had just worked a long shift at his job and was groggy but when he heard that the waters were rising, he (a great swimmer) snapped into action and became a rescuer, too.

That left us alone for the duration and now we had to wonder if we'd ever see my dad again.

Hours later, looking from the safety of the neighbor's upstairs window, I could see the top of the roof on our home ... the rest of the house was completely under water. My childhood home and the memories I savored there were gone.

Nothing was saved but I was grateful that we escaped with our lives.

Everybody from neighboring streets were packed in the upstairs rooms of that house. It was muggy, moist and scary because we didn't know what lay ahead.

From there, volunteers boated us to the rooftop of an abandoned apartment building a few blocks over to wait until a more coordinated response team could bring us to higher ground.

After some hours, one boat appeared with 3 men who offered to take anyone to safety. The only requirement was you needed to pay $10 a head.

$10 a person to be rescued ... in a disaster!

There were sick people on that rooftop. Old people. Babies. A few people had their pets.

Sanitation was non-existent. You "went to the bathroom" as best you could --- which was particularly hard for females.

There were no medical supplies. People who didn't have the medication they needed had to do without it until we were rescued.

There were a few "crazy" acting fellows in the crowd and I was scared to death. My mom was my safe haven but she had three of us to handle all by herself because dad was part of a volunteer rescue team.

Nobody had eaten in many hours.

I doubt anybody had money --- but I remember that my mom did because this was a Friday and my dad had just gotten paid. I saw him hand her a large stack of paper bills; probably around a thousand dollars because he had a good-paying job even for the times. We knew the storm was coming so he wanted us to have money in case the banks were closed in the aftermath. I remembered that mom had safely tucked that stack into her purse. Now, on the rooftop, she had held that purse tightly underneath her arm, covered by a sweater draped across her shoulders where no one could easily see it.

But since the brunt of the storm happened in the middle of the night, people were made to flee with little or nothing.

Water covered homes to the rooftop. Most people lost everything they had in the blink of an eye.

A few had lost relatives and friends in that terrible flood and were still dealing with the raw emotions.

So now, these bone-headed thugs disguised as volunteer Good Samaritans, wanted to profit from other people's pain.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

When nobody on that rooftop stepped forward, it was the saddest sight I ever witnessed to watch that boat turn 360 degrees and head off into the distance.

Not a single one of those "volunteers" looked back.

That was a long time ago but I can't NOT remember what it felt like; even now.

That was in my youth, so those guys on that boat have likely left the face of the earth by now. I don't know how their lives shaped up since then but I hope they were able to live with themselves.

Later the next day, after we were safe and rescued and in the warm, cozy home of my grandmother, I asked my mom why she didn't take the guy's offer.

She said: "Anybody who would take advantage of people in need would do just about anything. You can't take them at their word."

That sank in for a minute. I suppose she saw the pensive look on my face as it registered; so she further illustrated with an example ...

"What if ...," she asked, "they had taken us into their boats and once out of view of witnesses, shoved us into the murky depths of the floodwater?"

Knowing that she had money on her person, they could have robbed her of what remained then "got rid of us" with no issue.

That may sound far-fetched but during a crisis, people can sometimes get away with very bad behavior. There were lots of drownings with people trapped or trying to escape their homes so our "deaths" would have fit that narrative.

On the other hand, let's assume these were very nice guys with a good boat who just wanted to make a profit?

It's just not a good look.

Profiting is commerce but in a crisis, it's different.

Or it should be.

Where's the compassion?

It says something about a person's core values when in the midst of a disaster, they charge "by the head" to rescue people knowing full well most will not have the means.

Or buying up all the hand sanitizer just to re-sell it at an outrageous mark-up to pimp the demand.


for reading!
Layna61524

You had Betsy, August 27, 1965 – September 13, 1965 and I had Carla, September 3, 1961 – September 17, 1961

12days says Always remember

Thanks for sharing Layna...such a sad/enraging story. I don't think OP had bad intentions...it was just worded inappropriately. A better way to say it would be:

How can we be of service?

People should re-learn to see each other in this light. Yest another reason why language and copy is so vital to master as what you intend and what you say can be Worlds apart.

Im portraid as pure evil.

And i have no problem with that.

But i have not told in any place to take advantage of people.

I see 3 obvious ways to make money on coronavirus

1.Selling info products

2.Selling physical products

3.Selling services to be delivered online.

And none of it has nothing to do with taking advantage of people who are suffering.

What you see in this situation and how it will affect you is totally dependent on where you are standing.

It depends on what you choose to see and how you choose to respond.

Do you see only despair because you are tracking every single piece of bad and/or disinformation you can get your eyes on?

If you operate a real business that serves clients or customers (whether virtual or offline) and you're not just a collector of "downloads" you WILL be feeling the dynamics of the situation.

Like thousands of other service business owners I am feeling it.

The good news is you have a choice.

It should be of no surprise that after working from home due to the situation, many people will NEVER want to return to a 9-5.

Those people around the world are going to need help as they attempt to get into business for themselves. Some will have the means to pay for education and training to learn about that career change and some won't.

You can help them with what you do without price gouging.

When you do that you're helping and not doing anything unethical.

As a business, will you make a profit as you would normally do?

Very likely and it's because you're operating a business.

If you feel bad about for any reason you can always offer a good-will discount - but that is a choice only you can decide to make.

No one can force you into doing anything you don't want to.

What we need to remain mindful of is that you can't help others if you are also decimated, stressed and can't focus.

It's the old airline safety rule ...

"Put on your mask first before you can safely help others." The keywords being "First" and "Help."

We're all accountable at the end of the day for ourselves and those we care about our actions and our true intentions.

Be safe, be ethical and if possible, stay indoors.

World Warrior

I am particularly fascinated by people who follow circular paths which expose them to a lot of criticism. I find that these people tend to be more aware than others, often because the harsh judgments they undergo help them become stronger and more involved in what they believe to be the right choice. But this is not a reason for criticism or judgment: do not judge.