05-31-2019, 01:26 AM
05-31-2019, 03:20 AM

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05-31-2019, 05:09 AM
(05-30-2019 11:08 PM)Bobhenry Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you for the share. I've had a chance to listen to most of these videos and here are my thoughts:
- It's a reasonably coherent and well-explained course on how to use FB Messenger bots as a pretext for generating business from local companies. That said, as seems to be common with many courses like it, the core idea on which it is sold turns out to be a phantom. Ultimately, there really isn't much about how to identify the specifics of setting up a bot for a specific kind of company. Plenty on pricing, proposals, upsells etc. But I was left wondering why any small business would fork out the $$$ for something as tenuous as a FB bot. Maybe I wasn't the only one because the leads and clickthrough rates in the case studies don't look especially impressive. Despite the hype, you're going to need to go after a whole heap of businesses (1000s) by sending emails before you get some interest. So I'm thinking the entire proposition isn't very compelling.
- And maybe you'll think I just don't get it, but, yeah, I don't get it. I don't see why the marketsphere is so excited about FB bots. I know what AI is, and this isn't it. Apparently the engagement rate is high when you use a bot, but speaking purely personally (and I may be the exception), when I encounter them, they irritate the heck out of me. I don't need to be stepped through a bunch of clicks to find a contact number or be told platitudes. So I was hoping to be convinced by this course that this was going to change the way I looked at FB, but it hasn't and I wasn't. The pricing looked totally out of whack with what I know UK small businesses would spend on marketing (those that do) - maybe US small businesses look at this differently? But not a word about the terrible reputation that FB is gathering that should make marketers think twice about investing time and money on a platform that is facing rapidly increasing scrutiny and negativity.
- As for the content, it seems honest enough and I have no reason to doubt the product owners' sincerity. Many of the videos have a speed control (definitely needed), but some don't and it ... is .. so ... tedious ... to ... listen ... to .. it ... all.. Time is money, right? So having to spend half a morning wading through all this to come to the conclusion that it probably won't work for me isn't great. But that's also the benefit of BBHF - thank you to the OP!
Sorry if that sounds like a jaundiced opinion, and you may take a different view - but if you do, please share.
Thanks for the review!!
05-31-2019, 05:25 AM
Thanks a lot for your share.
Hav a nice day
John
Hav a nice day
John
05-31-2019, 06:11 AM
Great share. Thanks and max reps to the OP for the registration page, thanks and max reps to biggee and igibiz for the suggestions, thanks and max reps to alag18 for the download mirror, and thanks and max reps to Bobhenry for the review.
There were also some infographics as a bonus if you registered and entered the members area and signed up via Facebook messenger for their upcoming training. I uploaded those here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/y61p74to8b...s.zip/file
I tried to download the videos myself. If Alag18 or somebody would tell me how they accomplished it, I would appreciate it. I tried all the methods and extensions I knew. Normally I don't have a problem with vimeo videos.
There were also some infographics as a bonus if you registered and entered the members area and signed up via Facebook messenger for their upcoming training. I uploaded those here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/y61p74to8b...s.zip/file
I tried to download the videos myself. If Alag18 or somebody would tell me how they accomplished it, I would appreciate it. I tried all the methods and extensions I knew. Normally I don't have a problem with vimeo videos.
05-31-2019, 06:52 AM
Thank you for this share. I was just looking at this program. It caught my interest since the Voice Drop guy is a part of it.
As for Bobhenry's concerns and statement below:
I share in a portion of your concern about small businesses investing in a FB bot. This is one of the reasons I actually invested in bot platforms that support website chatbots, FB, Whatsapp, etc... instead of just FB.
Plus, if a business isn't actively using FB, then it is hard to sell them on the value of FB and the FB messenger bot.
As long as you can drive sales for a business, they don't care what you use!
The whole FB confidentially thing is such a hoax. Facebook bought a lot of data from sites like Axiom, etc, who have collecting data from all types of places for years. They are not the only one. I think that fiasco is just to keep the public is a constant state of anxiety and fear like the multitude of narratives the push to us daily.
As for Bobhenry's concerns and statement below:
(05-30-2019 11:08 PM)Bobhenry Wrote: [ -> ]But I was left wondering why any small business would fork out the $$$ for something as tenuous as a FB bot.
I share in a portion of your concern about small businesses investing in a FB bot. This is one of the reasons I actually invested in bot platforms that support website chatbots, FB, Whatsapp, etc... instead of just FB.
Plus, if a business isn't actively using FB, then it is hard to sell them on the value of FB and the FB messenger bot.
As long as you can drive sales for a business, they don't care what you use!
The whole FB confidentially thing is such a hoax. Facebook bought a lot of data from sites like Axiom, etc, who have collecting data from all types of places for years. They are not the only one. I think that fiasco is just to keep the public is a constant state of anxiety and fear like the multitude of narratives the push to us daily.
05-31-2019, 08:50 AM
Thanks for sharing this jackanthony.
Reps given.
Cheers!
Reps given.
Cheers!
05-31-2019, 09:54 AM
05-31-2019, 04:34 PM
Max rep added for the share.
05-31-2019, 09:02 PM
(05-30-2019 11:08 PM)Bobhenry Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you for the share. I've had a chance to listen to most of these videos and here are my thoughts:
- It's a reasonably coherent and well-explained course on how to use FB Messenger bots as a pretext for generating business from local companies. That said, as seems to be common with many courses like it, the core idea on which it is sold turns out to be a phantom. Ultimately, there really isn't much about how to identify the specifics of setting up a bot for a specific kind of company. Plenty on pricing, proposals, upsells etc. But I was left wondering why any small business would fork out the $$$ for something as tenuous as a FB bot. Maybe I wasn't the only one because the leads and clickthrough rates in the case studies don't look especially impressive. Despite the hype, you're going to need to go after a whole heap of businesses (1000s) by sending emails before you get some interest. So I'm thinking the entire proposition isn't very compelling.
- And maybe you'll think I just don't get it, but, yeah, I don't get it. I don't see why the marketsphere is so excited about FB bots. I know what AI is, and this isn't it. Apparently the engagement rate is high when you use a bot, but speaking purely personally (and I may be the exception), when I encounter them, they irritate the heck out of me. I don't need to be stepped through a bunch of clicks to find a contact number or be told platitudes. So I was hoping to be convinced by this course that this was going to change the way I looked at FB, but it hasn't and I wasn't. The pricing looked totally out of whack with what I know UK small businesses would spend on marketing (those that do) - maybe US small businesses look at this differently? But not a word about the terrible reputation that FB is gathering that should make marketers think twice about investing time and money on a platform that is facing rapidly increasing scrutiny and negativity.
- As for the content, it seems honest enough and I have no reason to doubt the product owners' sincerity. Many of the videos have a speed control (definitely needed), but some don't and it ... is .. so ... tedious ... to ... listen ... to .. it ... all.. Time is money, right? So having to spend half a morning wading through all this to come to the conclusion that it probably won't work for me isn't great. But that's also the benefit of BBHF - thank you to the OP!
Sorry if that sounds like a jaundiced opinion, and you may take a different view - but if you do, please share.
I share you skepticism. In fact, this reminds me a lot of SMS marketing... a quick way to irritate a potential lead by violating boundaries and sending an unsolicited automated commercial message in a very personal medium. Whenever there are new channels, someone is going to come up with a way to use them for spam.