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New course from snake-oil marketers

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Use fake email to register like brendanmacesnakeoilmarketer@FUsnakeoilsalesman.com for example


Make mirrors in case these snake-oil salesmen close the access
Fabulous, reps to OP and mirror.

I skimmed it, here's what's inside:

1. Choose a JV launch to promote.
2. Set up email autoresponder
3. Set up landing page.
4. Buy Instgram Shou7 outs and send traffic to the landing page.
5. Set up a GAds remarketing campaign.
(10-11-2018 01:46 AM)GloryMorning Wrote: [ -> ]Fabulous, reps to OP and mirror.

I skimmed it, here's what's inside:

1. Choose a JV launch to promote.
2. Set up email autoresponder
3. Set up landing page.
4. Buy Instgram Shou7 outs and send traffic to the landing page.
5. Set up a GAds remarketing campaign.

Personally I would maybe do a non mmo offer
Thanks for the share
thx for share cutepanda - ++++Reps!

Way too many red flags within the first few minutes to take this seriously-

1. Touted as NEWBIE ONLY, when Sales page talks about making an easy $200+ per day

2. 'Auto-Pilot' - whenever I hear that word, it screams SCAM

3. Brendan Mace - 'nuff said

4. "you won't need a website or to create ANY value at all to use this method"

5. Instagram traffic to build a list in MMO niche?

6. Very first video talks about a 'secret method' that you can use to
start making $10,000 per month, but in order to see that method,
you need to attend their students only webinar where they will teach
you the method. Really? A webinar where you will teach me a 10k per month
secret method? I thought that's what 'Fuego Breakout' was supposed to be!

Basically, they are admitting in video #1 this product is compete sh it, and
in order to start making money, you're going to need to attend their webinar
where there will definitely be pitch for a $1400 program of some sort
you can count on it.

Way to make customers feel like they are really happy with purchase they
just made!

7. A total of TWELVE upsells and downsells, where they obviously hope buyers
start getting so confused and so tired they just start agreeing to
hundreds or thousands of dollars in purchases that they really don't understand.

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EDIT: after going through the 'meat' videos, I see a few more problems here...

#1 - You are paying $50 for a shoutout to an audience of 50,000 people. Normal engagement on a post like this
(if engagement is REALLY good) is around 400 likes and 20-30 comments. So say you do a shoutout to this
SAME audience... How many of those people do you think are going to Opt-In to your squeeze page, especially
if your offer is not DIRECTLY tied to their niche?

Maybe 5-10 people... maybe 20, at MOST?

I think you're going to be WAY better off just buying a 150 click solo ad for that same $50. Way more opt ins, and
the people on solo ad lists are already familiar with the W+/Jvzoo system, where the standard IG follower would have
no clue.

#2 - I like retartgeting. It works great... in CERTAIN instances.

You can't just make a blanket statement of retargeting works great for every circumstance.

For instance, in this case.

Why in the world, after I've already paid for crappy results with a $50-$200 shoutout am I going to
spend another 30 cents to 50 cents to bring this SAME traffic, who has already been proven to NOT
like my offer, back to the EXACT SAME PAGE?

Doesn't make any sense.

You can't get much 'lower barrier to entry' than a simple squeeze page. If they didn't opt in the first
time, what makes you think that bringing cold traffic back to the exact same offer will change their
mind this time?

The thing is, the type of offer/squeeze page you are setting up here, these people don't know you.
They don't care about you. They don't give a crap about who you are.

This is going to be a HUGE problem trying to retarget that same traffic back to the same nameless,faceless
squeeze page.

BHB


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Thank you cutepanda for the share
And Thank you blackhatbill for your great review...

(10-11-2018 04:31 AM)blackhatbill Wrote: [ -> ]thx for share cutepanda - ++++Reps!

Way too many red flags within the first few minutes to take this seriously-

1. Touted as NEWBIE ONLY, when Sales page talks about making an easy $200+ per day

2. 'Auto-Pilot' - whenever I hear that word, it screams SCAM

3. Brendan Mace - 'nuff said

4. "you won't need a website or to create ANY value at all to use this method"

5. Instagram traffic to build a list in MMO niche?

6. Very first video talks about a 'secret method' that you can use to
start making $10,000 per month, but in order to see that method,
you need to attend their students only webinar where they will teach
you the method. Really? A webinar where you will teach me a 10k per month
secret method? I thought that's what 'Fuego Breakout' was supposed to be!

Basically, they are admitting in video #1 this product is compete sh it, and
in order to start making money, you're going to need to attend their webinar
where there will definitely be pitch for a $1400 program of some sort
you can count on it.

Way to make customers feel like they are really happy with purchase they
just made!

7. A total of TWELVE upsells and downsells, where they obviously hope buyers
start getting so confused and so tired they just start agreeing to
hundreds or thousands of dollars in purchases that they really don't understand.
thanks for share
ummm are you even making any money online? because when i read your review and your personal advice/opinions, i noticed a lot of holes and some things that just aren't true. your numbers are also all wrong.

the training was ok. it's only instragram traffic and nothing new there but the concept of building a list at the same time and using a retargeting campaign made this training a little better than just a buy shoutouts campaign. so basically most everything is on the backend and dependent on the retargeting.

on the front end, you would like to start building a little list and yea, not as much engagement will happen compared to sending someone directly to an offer but just because you don't have much seen engagement doesn't mean people don't engage. a lot of people engage privately. for example. i've been on this forum for a few year. not a lot of people will engage in my posts but a lot more people will hit that rep button and not post in the thread.
i am trying to give an example people can follow here. my point is, your engagement theory is terribly wrong but you are correct in saying there wont be too much engagement on that front end.

so that's where the retargeting comes in. you say who would buy ads for retargeting the same crappy non engaged traffic? well. a lot of smart marketers do it every day. you aren't seeing the big picture. this is part of the reason why i question your experience to even write such a review and opinion.

now i didn't go through the whole training so i don't know exactly what they said about retargeting to the same page over and over again. i personally wouldn't do that. was that in the training? there are many ways to retarget including a couple of the same campaigns to the original landing page. the more people see it, the more people trust it. but you can direct that traffic anywhere. you paid for it. the easiest way to get your money back is to retarget to some cpa trial offer or something where the comissions justify the ad costs. the people who sign up to your list, you can quickly get your money back from the shoutouts by promoting other cpa offers through your email marketing and you still have your list growing to do other things.

the drawback to this type of training is that it's going to cost a few hundred dollars to at first to build up that momentum and to reinvest to continue that momentum. so this may not be good for the newbie who is always afraid to take a risk like this and put in the work

like i said though, i just skimmed through the training. i don't know everything that was involved within the video trainings. from what i did view, i liked it and the concept of the backend profits. it's good training just to learn this concept but still take it with a grain of salt since i found it a little vague and not as specific as it should be to teach someone how to make money with the method.

in one part the dude talked about how you shouldn't buy a shoutout if it's more than a dollar per 1000 followers for a 24 hour shoutout? then he goes on to say he would try to talk someone down to $10 with a 20k or so following for a 2-4 hour shoutout? this went against his original training and suggestions. so there were red flags in this guys training and it almost sounded like he didn't have much experience in what he was teaching. RED FLAG.
Hey California Kid! Thanks for your review of my review. +Reps

I think at the end of the day, we're both saying the exact same thing:

Retargeting (done correctly) DOES work great. And yes, these guys are
suggesting to send your traffic back to the exact same page that they
didn't opt into before.

That's where I disagree with their method, which has absolutely no
case study or results or anything else attached to it.

There are FAR better ways to go about retargeting - even something
as simple as presenting a different OFFER, or different ANGLE on your
offer could be great ways to retarget

Those would be 2 things you could do, but there are many others as well.

Your final point is same I made as well: way too many red flags to proceed
as directed in any serious fashion.

BHB
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