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Nice share RegaLives max reps added and also max reps for nicho for
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(01-22-2018 11:46 PM)nicho Wrote: [ -> ]To the people who said this information package is crap, l have a question? is it just your opinion or have you actually tried Jason Fulton's system and put it into practice? The reason l ask is because l have been doing almost the same system and it's made me money for the past 5 years.The more experienced among you will know a simple funnel always works, build your list then sell to it by email. Just because you already know the system does not mean its crap or rehashed or not something new means it's a con or rubbish as more an more newbies every day join this forum and the internet and could ready your comments and believe them without at least trying the methods, sometimes the gold is staring you in the face and within this package is some real gold when Jason explains in detail in his videos how to really stand out and connect in your emails. I am not having a pop at your comments but just wanted any newbies to look a little deeper and make their own minds up by actually testing the system before they review.

Thanks -nicho- for your insight.

My opinions/comments are pretty well documented about this subject (see links above in Razmataz13's post).

I've at least 5 people who I've trained in the "Piggyback Cash System" that average $3 - 5K per month. And they're happy as heck that they found something that "works", working out of their apartments (1 of them on a 28' boat with satellite internet) on the coast of Oregon.

One key question:
Does the fact that McDonald's is using a system started in 1955 make it worthless in 2018?

I'll let you answer that however it makes sense to you.
(Note: Americans alone consume one billion pounds of beef at McDonald's in a year – five and a half million head of cattle. According to company estimates, one in every eight American workers has been employed by McDonald's.) Hmmm, I guess older systems might still have some viability...

Systems that work, which are based on human nature, tend to keep working. Regardless of when you apply them. That means sales, copywriting, will continue to work as long as humans want M-O-R-E.

Have a good week.

AbeLincolnBart

(01-22-2018 11:46 PM)nicho Wrote: [ -> ]To the people who said this information package is crap, l have a question? is it just your opinion or have you actually tried Jason Fulton's system and put it into practice? The reason l ask is because l have been doing almost the same system and it's made me money for the past 5 years.The more experienced among you will know a simple funnel always works, build your list then sell to it by email. Just because you already know the system does not mean its crap or rehashed or not something new means it's a con or rubbish as more an more newbies every day join this forum and the internet and could ready your comments and believe them without at least trying the methods, sometimes the gold is staring you in the face and within this package is some real gold when Jason explains in detail in his videos how to really stand out and connect in your emails. I am not having a pop at your comments but just wanted any newbies to look a little deeper and make their own minds up by actually testing the system before they review.

Yes, i did waaaay back in the day..... And that is why i can conclude this is rehashed crap, there is absolutely nothing new that isn't found the millions other $7- garbage products released over the past decade

Let's go through them and see where the problems are

Method 1
Posting in FB groups to grow your own group

This will get your FB account banned in a jiffy, group admins (me being one for a long time) can sniff out these spammers and will be reporting them to Facebook, or did you really think that posting about YOUR group n other groups is something people are not frowning upon, this was something you could do in 2010 but it is 2018 now.

Method 2
Buy links on popular youtube videos

This is ALSO a very old method that doesn't really work anymore (if it ever did) because of the fact is that when you see a popular video the traffic is 8/10 times already gone, the viral effect is gone so you are buying links for trickle traffic, problem two is that most people (even kids) are aware and are asking insane prices to put your link up, been there done that in 2011 got the freaking T-shirt.

Method 3
Google alert, could work, but i highly doubt that bloggers will let you get away with promoting your stuff in their comment section, (would you?) i am convinced that this dude has never done anything like this and is making this shit up as he goes along

Method 4
Adding your crappy $5- PLR bonus to some vendors launch for a video review of the vendor's product, this is just laughable, no vendor how small will go for that. Every self-respecting IMer can see that PLR shit from a mile away, and again would you let YOUR traffic that is costing YOU money being exposed to S***** PLR products, i mean if you don't wanna be known as a IM douche like Jason Fulto, that is.

See, took me 5 minutes to explain why this crap is rehashed and people should not be wasting their times

You're welcome

THANX. OUT OF REPS

I was not having a pop at you as explained in my post, how ever instead you made another post full of negative comments as nothing works anymore, if that was true why are you still on the internet and in a blackhatforum? I have been in this business long before the internet started when l made my money as a list broker from mail order and direct mail and as abelincolnbart has already stated systems based upon human nature always work. The very same reason people purchased in mail order and direct mail was because of great copywriting a good offer and the most important part which was HOPE. Human nature has not changed and the mail order and direct mail just changed to the internet only it's a lot cheaper and easier to build lists as l have done since 1996 way back in the bulletin days building lists from co-reg leads and all kinds of leads as a list broker that has rented or sold lists to many of the top marketers over the years. Anyone without a list is not in business on the internet because they are always looking to find new customers instead of building relationships with their mailing lists who over time come to trust them and purchase from them time and time again. So l will end this post by not having a pop at you just simply to advise anyone newbie not to listen to your negative rants but to go out there and test the information for themselves. My only advice to you is to try to part of a solution to the newbies that visit the forum instead of being part of the problem.

(01-24-2018 09:49 AM)nicho Wrote: [ -> ]I was not having a pop at you as explained in my post, how ever instead you made another post full of negative comments as nothing works anymore, if that was true why are you still on the internet and in a blackhatforum? I have been in this business long before the internet started when l made my money as a list broker from mail order and direct mail and as abelincolnbart has already stated systems based upon human nature always work. The very same reason people purchased in mail order and direct mail was because of great copywriting a good offer and the most important part which was HOPE. Human nature has not changed and the mail order and direct mail just changed to the internet only it's a lot cheaper and easier to build lists as l have done since 1996 way back in the bulletin days building lists from co-reg leads and all kinds of leads as a list broker that has rented or sold lists to many of the top marketers over the years. Anyone without a list is not in business on the internet because they are always looking to find new customers instead of building relationships with their mailing lists who over time come to trust them and purchase from them time and time again. So l will end this post by not having a pop at you just simply to advise anyone newbie not to listen to your negative rants but to go out there and test the information for themselves. My only advice to you is to try to part of a solution to the newbies that visit the forum instead of being part of the problem.

So you did direct mail since 1996 and that is why this outdated info is solid and i am just negative?

Great argument -_-

The first time I did method #2 was in about 2002
and I lost a boatload of money paying the owners of
the videos. I think I made one sale.

The second time I was more careful with choosing the
videos and offered less money. That time I only lost about
$100 and made 11 sales over 4 weeks time. Some of the links
are still up after about 7 years and still haven't made a nickel.

Since that time, I've seen that same method rehashed and sold
about 4 more times. If it was really working, they would keep it
a secret and use it to make money.
JL

Thanks to OP RegaLives for sharing the FE and OTOs,
and to nicho, Razmataz13, AbeLincolnBart and JohnnyLoser for helpful positive reviews and comments.
REP given.

Here is a convenient zippyshare mirror that contains the following:
* FE - Jason Fulton folder
* OTO1 - Mosh Bari folder
* OTO2 folder
* OTO3 - Facebook Closed Group folder
* Piggyback Cash System.txt file that lists all contents

The zippyshare share is in 3 parts that extracts to 0.98 GB.
To extract the compressed rar files, download all 3 files into the same folder and then
extract the first file which will cause all 3 compressed files to be extracted.

Magic Button :

PBCS.part1.rar (310 MB)
http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/B3ZO2VFJ/file.html
PBCS.part2.rar (310 MB)
http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/zbgyitGS/file.html
PBCS.part3.rar (273.2 MB)
http://www114.zippyshare.com/v/IfvYXV51/file.html

ENJOY!

Posting so I can find this later.