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Joe,

I have emails from people who've gotten a lot of value from my course. Maybe you didn't like it, or all of you, that's fine.

While I do give out tons of free info on my site, and try to help people, I love learning.

Whatever your opinion, I prefer to spend my time trying to help people, not wasting a moment shooting someone else down.

Since someone who judges someone else is usually an authority, if you're better than me at marketing, I'd love to learn from you, and see what all of you have created that I can learn from.

I'd be excited to to see what contributions you've made to others' lives, how you've helped others, and learn from all of you.

I'm saying this because it sounds like you're just looking for ways to bring down to make yourself feel like you're smarter, better, and more powerful, and it doesn't matter if it's me, or someone else.

Tell me this...

There's a difference between an honest review, which is fine, and acting arrogant, and like you're better than someone.

I can understand why someone would do the first, to let people know their views.

But, if you truly caring, good people, I assume you're interested in helping others, and contributing to their live.

Why would you want anything other than to help someone, and to see them do better than they're doing today?

Or, do you prefer to use your time hating on others, and bringing them down, because that's your entertainment? I'd just like to know.

Thanks! :)

Hey guys,

I do the best I can to help people, that's all I can say. Do I always get it right? No, nobody does.

I give away tons of free advice, so the people who think I'm a "clown" will know well beforehand, and those who don't won't.

Obviously you guys don't find my materials good enough...

If you guys have better materials/information I can learn from, I'd love to see some of the contributions you've made so that I can help myself continue to grow.

JOEMLM you are a F****** hater. I bet that you achieved nothing in terms of marketing or making money online.

Better start doing something instead of crushing other peoples work you F****** idiot.

Piece of shit.

M****.

(05-17-2015 01:58 PM)freebiequeen1999 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey I appreciate an honest review and sparing me and others from checking it out.

Reps to OP for considering my time )

I do agree...while there is info to be had and I love the shares, there are some "wso" stuff that is a waste. More and more I think the worst are the droning tapes and videos of the 'gurus"...nothing you can actually use (such as graphics or sales letters etc)...just droning rehashs.

The think that cracks me up about that other "forum" is reading sales threads from even 6 months ago - the guru leaves the thread and people ask "what about ?"..and "I want a refund" and "what happened to the forum, the support team" blahblah....it is amazing how many end up leaving their buyers high and dry (and broke and disappointed when the magic plan turns out to be unworkable) JMO of coure

You called Joe's review honest, but didn't look at my course? You call it a droning tape, but I encourage the exact opposite. I give out my Facebook, Skype, and email, so people have direct access to me in all different ways, because I want to build the best products on the planet.

I'm amazed that you made so many judgements without even looking at any of my materials, and your post sounds more like a rant than a fair review.

You sound very angry and bitter against marketers, which I understand, there are many products out there, and I don't ask you to love me, or my materials, all I ask is you give them a fair chance.

For example, people say, "my stuff might be good for noobs", but I give away so much free on my website you can immediately know if it's right for you with my free course and eBook I give away.

When you read my course, you'll notice my advanced programs are out of the way, and are simply links at the bottom of my content, while EVERYTHING on the main area of my site is giving away free content and advice.

I care a lot about people, I'm a good person, none of which will show up in Joe's (who never met me, or spoke to me) review of my product.

I try as hard as I can to be fair to everyone, all I ask is you be fair to me, and not lump me into an arbitrary category without giving me a chance, or getting to know me.

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(05-18-2015 02:03 AM)nicsonish Wrote: [ -> ]JOEMLM you are a F****** hater. I bet that you achieved nothing in terms of marketing or making money online.

Better start doing something instead of crushing other peoples work you F****** idiot.

Piece of shit.

M****.

I used to be one of those marketers who had all these judgements, got screwed over, and went around ranting "gurus are full of shit" and all that, but I learned that positivity and loving others, helping others, and positivity are the only forces that do any good in the world - everything else just movies the world backward.

A fair blow-by-blow analysis of my product, even if Joe thought it was the worst thing on the planet, would've been fair.

But acting arrogant, condescending, trying to make yourself out to be better than someone else who you've never met, talked to, and know nothing about, rather than trying to help them, is something different entirely.

Especially over the sound quality, the information is what's important, and my first goal was making sure everyone could easily fit it on all their devices.

I encoded it at 32KBPS so it can easily fit on Mp3 players and phones, so it wasn't a 500+ MB file.

Joe's message is filled with hate, which is fine, he has every right to express himself - that's what makes the free world great, but he's not helping anyone.

I just prefer to love everyone, and regardless of how good I am at any moment, do the best I can to help everyone bring themselves up higher, and if he or anyone has something to teach me, and my stuff really can be better, I want to learn!

My first thought, was how grateful I am to Joe for giving all this time and attention to going through my course, and taking the time to go out of his way to send me so much free traffic and business.

I'm truly grateful and blessed for it, and just want to thank everyone who's downloaded my course! :)

(05-17-2015 12:35 PM)thobias Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder why you share some product thats not worth to you . You think the noob kids here will apprieciate that and shower the green reps all over you.You are wasting the time as well as hurting eyes with all that yellow ramblings.

All I'm trying to do is help people, sure there's always ways I can do better, but I don't know why anyone would hate on someone for doing that, but I jumped out at him enough to get his attention, and the influence of free traffic, and lots of people who get to enjoy my materials, so I'm grateful.

Also, he didn't share this, but I want everyone here to have my eBook as well as a free gift!

http://www.chrisnosal.com/pdfbrand/pdfbrand/Compelling-Copywriting.pdf

Welcome to the site, chris.

Thanks kazzz, kinda got a bad impression from all the negativity, but I know there had to be a lot of good people here. I still can't believe someone who hated my material took so much time out of their day to go through it, promote it, and get me so much business and traffic lol. You guys really do have the best site ever!

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Just decided since he drew up so much interest, might as well give away as much free value as I can to help all the people finding my site.

chris- stop with your shit in here. obviously some people know your name and haven't been impressed. you are hurt about the reviews people have about you and want to come in here and try to clean your name up a little? that's cool. wanna throw in one of your ebooks while your here? that's cool too.

after reading your comments, i'm not impressed either. i appreciate if you are truly in this business to help people but you aren't gonna help anyone including yourself with your attitude stating openly that people don't know what they are talking about while trying to convince others that you do.

the only person you agreed with was the idiot who cursed out joe for very little reasoning. it was also your longest response. that says a lot about you man.

you're right. there are a lot of cool people in this forum. we are a community. we may not always agree with eachother, but a lot of us have eachothers backs because we actually share with one another

people like you are a dime a dozen. who are people like you? people who have nothing to offer except for self promotion. i don't really agree with joe(the op) a lot of the time but i would rather have him here than someone who is only here for self promotion.

you wanted to learn something that you didn't know before? well welcome to california kid's classroom. have a seat because i am sure i have a lot more to teach you

california kid's classroom .......LMAO ...........He teaches "how to Pretend a SEO guru with 15 y of experience who even cant fix his site" and "Earn trust by posting SHIT WSO's to feed the shining noobs" and "How to interfere just like this in any thread like a pro"

ahhhh poor thobias. still has nothing better to do. but yea..... california kid's classroom. you should know it well as i have been schooling ya for a while. take a seat next to chris. i have room for both of ya.