Guess what? This forum already has "WhiteHat" section - http://bestblackhatforum.com/Forum-BlackHat-SEO-WhiteHat-SEO and the sky didn't come falling down. Other than that, if people are worried about their actions in BlackHat world (and some from those "free and democratic" (sic) countries might be) either use proxies, quit BlackHat or move to "nondemocratic" countries. As simple as that.
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Guess what? This forum already has "WhiteHat" section - http://bestblackhatforum.com/Forum-BlackHat-SEO-WhiteHat-SEO and the sky didn't come falling down. Other than that, if people are worried about their actions in BlackHat world (and some from those "free and democratic" (sic) countries might be) either use proxies, quit BlackHat or move to "nondemocratic" countries. As simple as that.
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It seems that you are raising an interesting point would you care explaining it in more details, that would be appreciated, thanks
so what is the point of this thread? Sorry I don't get it :(
Sad thing here guy's is that Udemy really gets a hard hit from being linked up this way with bbhf. I actually pay for courses and some are good, but I have many (100's of) free ones from the links you guys post and when I go through the courses... a lot really suck. Which makes me feel like I wouldn't want to pay for anything on Udemy, or even the Internet, as far as instruction goes. Yes, there are many reputable instructors out there, and many great websites with expensive and worth paying for content to learn from...but just stating my observations as far as Udemy goes.
Other than that, I do love bbhf, so don't give me crap over that...I'm in no way bashing...just noting my experience with Udemy...it's not bbhf's fault in any way, and they provide an incredible, irreplaceable resource for the internet and me. Just posting my 2 cents.
That's because Udemy seems to attract more MARKETERS than real instructors (i.e., those who have a solid track record in their professional field). But, like you said, that doesn't mean there aren't diamonds in the rut. You just have to look for them.
I mean, marketers are everywhere on the internet and selling digital property for profit has been the buzz word among them -- thanks to Udemy's own marketing team. Add that to Udemy's algorithm for getting your course featured for organic traffic, there's going to be a lot of people keen on quantity over quality. Especially when they know they are going to give away free coupons to attract 'social proof' buying. For a company like Udemy to be successful, it needs a lot of instructors for students to choose a course from. So they have a dedicate team of recruiters asking youtubers and just about anyone trying to make a buck, to upload their course on their website. The sad part about that is the real gems can get easily buried among the wannabes. Especially if some reputable teacher decides not to play the 'social proof'/giving-away-free-coupon game.
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Guess what? This forum already has "WhiteHat" section - http://bestblackhatforum.com/Forum-BlackHat-SEO-WhiteHat-SEO and the sky didn't come falling down. Other than that, if people are worried about their actions in BlackHat world (and some from those "free and democratic" (sic) countries might be) either use proxies, quit BlackHat or move to "nondemocratic" countries. As simple as that.
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It seems that you are raising an interesting point would you care explaining it in more details, that would be appreciated, thanks
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What point exactly you need to be better explained?
The "fuzzy" part about, if I understood properly, thus my question, posting members are being "oppressed" in expressing their opinions and actions on the forum? is that what you mean? please do elaborate, thanks.
Nope, it was mentioned that one member run into a problem with some Udemy course owner who was threatening that member regarding his actions in BBHF. So if you're into a country where such kind of things can actually harm you, do protect yourself, meaning your online identity.
I personally couldn't care less.
Oh god..just rip that udemy sh*t and share it here,recently i has seen there are so many internet marketers(IM) who r trying to sell their sh*t course on udemy..it's just like WSO that 99% is sh*t..only the twist is they move into udemy and make ash*t course and bank hard from newbies...
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You have obviously been asleep this entire time. Yes I have made accurate comments about GBs and Udemy coupons that people like you have claimed were ridiculous and would not come true but as you can see all of my predictions have come true and my line of thinking has been proven right time and time again. I have even provided evidence with the links in my posts to prove it. If you are under the impression that this is merely an unproven conspiracy theory then you are asleep and have not been paying attention to what has been going, to the accounts that are now finally getting banned and to the threads I have provided that prove it is actually happening.
You obviously are also not paying attention (because you are apparently the one who is asleep) to the Admins who have clearly posted at the top if the Udemy section for all to see that what I have been saying all along is true and happening which is exactly why they have taken the drastic step of posting the new restrictions above the forum in plain sight instead of putting it a thread that must be clicked on in order to see.
You and those who obviously don't want the truth to come out merely resort to name calling as you have done as a way to prevent others from knowing the truth about what is going on which is also now officially against the rules because Admins discovered that those who tells the truth about this situation are attacked and called names and harassed on the forums and via PM as a way to keep them quiet. http://bestblackhatforum.com/Announcement-MUST-READ-VERY-IMPORTANT-RULES
As I have stated on numerous occasion (you may recall) Udemy is importing white hatters into BBHF who do not know and do not care what blakhat is because they only want udemy coupons. And guess what that means...yes that is the reason why Udemy is one of the most popular sections of BBHF, because noobs and leechers are coming out of the woodwork to get their daily udemy fix. Of course you don't need a blackhat forum to share free and discounted coupons do you? No you don't. That's what white hat forums do. So what do you think will happen if we dedicate a section of the forums exclusively for white hat only? Yes that's right, you'll naturally get blackhat marketers to start marketing using blackhat techniques in the white hat section of the blackhat forums. And what are we seeing now as you have noted that I have already said and predicted long ago? Yes that's right we are seeing exactly what I said we would be seeing and you and your friends have called me names for pointing it out like you are doing now.
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no you have NOT made accurate comments about GBs and udemy coupons... all you did is write long and pointless comments time and time again... and this one is another pointless rant by Normal as well...
you have made no predictions but you did throw accusations. you said that only udemy instructors benefit from this whole thing. when in fact bbhf members benefit the most. we get daily courses for FREE! and it's been going on for about 2 years. you are here to f*ck it up with useless rants.
there are scammers, leechers, idiots in EVERY section of this forum! and you'll NEVER be able to fully stop that.
focusing on the udemy section is simply ridiculous since there are sections in this forum where it's a much bigger problem.
the udemy section is a very clean section, and it's really hard to screw it up here. you are doing a fine job though...
the restrictions you are referring to apply to ALL sections not this one in particular. and it DIDN'T happen because of it!
so writing about it as if it's the udemy section's fault is simply STUPID.
all a person has to do to refute your claim is actually enter that thread and see that it doesn't refer to this section even ONCE!
"spammers... leakers... scammers... virus spreader... racist" - it a GENERAL restriction thread for all the forum sections. and it's great that they made it.
this section does have rules though.., here you go: http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-Udemy-Section-RULES-READ-THIS-FIRST
it was approved by a SUPER MOD. and can be backed by at least two more mods.
there's NOTHING wrong with a black-hat forum having a few white-hat sections.
you are talking as if white-hat is a bad thing. ALL SIDES FREAKING BENEFIT FROM THIS CURRENT SETUP!
there are other White-hat sections on this forum as well. why don't you go and cry about them as well?
lets face it, MOST members enjoy this section, that's why it's so popular. i mean who wouldn't? you get free courses on a daily basis and you don't have to pay anything!
oh right... Normal has an issue.... since last year.
each time a scammer appears he has to shout from the rooftops how this section is bad.
guess what?
if i have a blister on my finger, i don't cut off my whole arm. i deal with the blister itself!
each section has issues once in a while, should we close the BSO section because someone scammed another member? or should we deal with the actual issue which is the scammer? should we close the download section because a member was racist? or should we ban the actual member?
the answer is simple.