04-20-2015, 12:43 PM
04-20-2015, 01:34 PM
Thanks....rep......
04-20-2015, 01:45 PM
You're posting in the wrong forum. This share goes here:
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04-20-2015, 02:58 PM
any guys considering downloading this, i have to tell ya.....there is no secret. all that products like this do is feed off the insecurities of others. you wont be able to change who you are so don't try to. try to engage with who you are and what you have to offer someone. dating beautiful women in general is the wrong mindset anyway. dating someone who is a fit for you and the opposite sex should be the mindset. someone you can truly connect to rather than just on the surface. someone who you can have a long lasting relationship with who compliments you and you compliment her. what i mean by that is that where you are weak, she is strong and where she is weak, you are strong. shouldn't base liife and especially meeting women on a superficial level or eventually both of you will butt heads or become bored and that's that.
if you really want to approach the more attractive women though, know this. they are more insecure that the less attractive ones and less assertive. they also have no need in approaching guys because guys(usually the ldominate losers who just want one night stands) have no problem approaching THEM. these women get burned all the time and their self esteem levels are very low and they continue to question themselves because they can't keep a long lasting relationship or anything meaningful with these losers who approach them and who these women take a chance on.
the good guys are a little intimidated by these women because of their looks and how they see they are always being approached by others who are more assertive. they don't feel they have a chance. the truth is, they have a BIG chance. a bigger chance than the losers these women are used to meeting.
the trick is in the approach without the phoniness. whether a woman you are interested in is in a bar or club or grocery store or church, there is a specific reason why they are there. once you know what that reason is with a little bit of certainty, you can approach them more easily and with more confidence and offer to fulfill their needs in why they are there
another tip is if you see someone you want to approach and not feeling up to it yet, make sure she notices you. you and your demeanor. at this point, you want to attract her by your demeanor wheather it's through conversing with the people you are with where she can overhear, or doing something out of the ordinary to get her attention indirectly. try to portray yourself as having a great time.
another tip is that when you do finally approach a girl you are interested in, don't approach it from the mindset of picking a chick up. approach her in a friendly mannor without any expectations. the more expectations you put on yourself, the girl will pick up on that and be turned off. the less you show interest in her at first, the more intrigued she will be. don't show so much disinterest in her though where she will feel insecure. there is always a balance to things.
anyway, my whole point to this is just to say is that a lot of these products people put out on picking up women are just to get your money. they aren't meant to help ya so don't be fooled.
the biggest trick to this whole women thing though is to just be patient. that same advice should be used in life in general as well
if you really want to approach the more attractive women though, know this. they are more insecure that the less attractive ones and less assertive. they also have no need in approaching guys because guys(usually the ldominate losers who just want one night stands) have no problem approaching THEM. these women get burned all the time and their self esteem levels are very low and they continue to question themselves because they can't keep a long lasting relationship or anything meaningful with these losers who approach them and who these women take a chance on.
the good guys are a little intimidated by these women because of their looks and how they see they are always being approached by others who are more assertive. they don't feel they have a chance. the truth is, they have a BIG chance. a bigger chance than the losers these women are used to meeting.
the trick is in the approach without the phoniness. whether a woman you are interested in is in a bar or club or grocery store or church, there is a specific reason why they are there. once you know what that reason is with a little bit of certainty, you can approach them more easily and with more confidence and offer to fulfill their needs in why they are there
another tip is if you see someone you want to approach and not feeling up to it yet, make sure she notices you. you and your demeanor. at this point, you want to attract her by your demeanor wheather it's through conversing with the people you are with where she can overhear, or doing something out of the ordinary to get her attention indirectly. try to portray yourself as having a great time.
another tip is that when you do finally approach a girl you are interested in, don't approach it from the mindset of picking a chick up. approach her in a friendly mannor without any expectations. the more expectations you put on yourself, the girl will pick up on that and be turned off. the less you show interest in her at first, the more intrigued she will be. don't show so much disinterest in her though where she will feel insecure. there is always a balance to things.
anyway, my whole point to this is just to say is that a lot of these products people put out on picking up women are just to get your money. they aren't meant to help ya so don't be fooled.
the biggest trick to this whole women thing though is to just be patient. that same advice should be used in life in general as well
04-20-2015, 03:07 PM
@California Kid : Thanks for sharing. But this course isn't too bad as you thought. Anyway, try to listen a few audios and then delete if you think it's a completely wasted of time :)
04-20-2015, 05:22 PM
not interested haha just the title is a put off for me :)
i just think people really go out of their way to over complicate things when things aren't complicated at all. it's like when i see people come on this forum to learn techniques and methods for internet marketing(and other things related) but don't take action because they over think things. they are too busy concentrating on all the ways they can fail and never do shit. i see that same attitude in guys sometimes when it comes to women.
women pick up on that shit. when i look at things closely, it's not about being some alpha male or someone who is dominate or someone who is secure. it's about the mindset guys should have when approaching not only women but people in general without any expectations.
nobody likes rejection but rejection comes from expectations. if you don't have expectations, you can't be rejected. it's as simple as that. if a girl you may be interested in isn't interested in you? you have to have the "who cares" attitude knowing that it wasn't meant to be or else there would have been a connection that day or night.
i am actually the complete opposite of a couple of my best guy friends where they see picking up women as a numbers game. they were always approaching girls to try and pick them up. this is what they were naturally comfortable with though unlike me and it was a numbers game with them. they got turned down all the time. something i didn't want to take part in personally.
all i did was be myself and incororated techniques to get women's attention indirectly where they would notice me and i would pretend not to notice them. you know what happens after that? THEY approach YOU. and to tell you the truth, not once in my life have i EVER approached a woman to pick her up.....EVER. the people i dated approached me. now i am picky when it comes to dating so i had to turn these chicks down a lot of the times. i've only been in 4 relationships my whole life. some people would think that's pathetic but they were ALL long term relationships.
you know what these books probably tell ya to do? be an alpha male. show confidence. own the room. the shit some of my friends used to pull but they were naturally outgoing with people.
some of the shit i would pull would be things like:
1: if i am at a grocery store in the cereal isle and i saw a pretty cute chick, that was next to me, i would throw my hands up say aloud to get her attention "man, i am getting so tired of cherios" and then i would turn my head after a second and make eye contact with her. most often than not they will pipe in and talk to ya and even offer an alternative to the shit your complaining about to yourself outloud. this happened to me once and all i did was look at her. that opened the door for me to look in her cart and asked her why she was buying ramen noodles(since it's one of my favorites) knowing she would tell me she likes it even though it's one of the cheapest soups you can buy and then i show excitement from that response and told her how i live on the stuff. there ya go. something in common and then it grew from there. we became friends but nothing happened because i knew there wasn't a true connection
2: one of my favorite things to do is start a conversation with a little shock value where it's an instant conversation piece like when i go up to women(when i am out with friends) and tell them about how we are having this discussion about my theory of all women being bisexual. then i ask them for their input. this starts a conversation and a debate EVERY SINGLE TIME. it's a fun silly way to engage in conversation with people you might be interested in without any expectations. after the conversation starts and comes to a conclusion, it opens doors to other conversations. works every day time if one can do it laughing and smiling knowing it's to be used more of as a joke. but it also has some truth to it. that's why i have used to so much to get women's input. there are more bisexual women than there are bisexual guys because women are more in to an emotional connection than guys and they all share that in common and are attracted to eachother more.
3: i was at a regional dart championship tourney once. i didn't even notice this chick noticing me. she came up to me and wanted a hug. i got terribly confused because i was trying to wonder how i know her. anyway, i asked her if i knew her and she said "no, just wanted to give ya a hug". stupid me still had a confused look on my face. this chick was HOT. when my friends saw what was going on, they jumped in and told her that they would all give her a hug and they did. then she walked away and i got so much shit from my friends after that ha. but the reason why she approached me was because i got her to notice me. i felt really bad though because i think i made this chick feel rejected.
i used to hang out in bars ALL the time because i liked shooting darts and playing pool and even getting addicted to that stupid golden tee golf game. i was always there to have fun. not to pick up chicks. but i would still talk to them.
one of the easiest conversation breakers in a bar is deciding to put money in the jukebox. you go up to someone you like and ask them "what music do ya like? i'm about to put some money in the jukebox" more than half the time, she'll come with ya to pick out a couple songs. right there, the the door opens to talk about music.
another one when i am bored because my friends are doing their own thing sometimes is to ask them to play some darts or shoot some pool. if they know how and are interested, they will surely play a game or two. if they don't know how to play, you just grab their hand and tell them you'll teach them. i used to do that all the time and that was one on one time with them for me to figure out if that was someone worth pursuing or not with no expectations. just having fun.
when i was playing these games with these girls, i would never let them beat me and whenever they made a bad shot, i would tell them flat out that they really suck and i would insult them....but in a very jokingly way. i have found that that breaks the ice more than not to loosen things up. if it doesn't, the chick doesn't have a sense of humor and i like to leave that situation as fast as i can because for me, the chick has to at least have a sense of humor. where's the fun without it?
i remember once when one of my freinds who was a girl and married was talking to me about dating and relationships. i forget why that converssation got started. anyway, she noticed i never really dated much and was giving me advice to attract girls. she told me to wear better clothes and not holey jeans and t-shirts haha. yea, that was me back then. it still is. she told me i have to dress better. i am sure that that may work in a supercifical way but what i told her was that if a girl doesn't like me for who i am and what i am confortable with, i wouldn't want anything to do with her anyway. the point was that i just wanted to be myself. i was never in to impressing anyone.
what did that attitude do for me? well rather than dating one girl after the next for years and rather than have the average 2-3 best friends thatmost of my guy friends experienced, i managed to have about 15 best friends and never got hurt from relationships that end after a month or two. it got me in to long lasting friendships and relationships.
seriously.....if a guy has to pick up a book to find out the secrets in how to change ones self to dating hot chicks, they don't have a CLUE and the book is going to make it worse because they are gonna try to impliment the things that don't come naturally. insecurity isn't a bad thing unless you make it a bad thing by thinking that women don't go for guys like that. i call bullshit. something i learned a long time ago is that if you can show a little insecurity, women dig that shit! alot more than the alpha male types.
i've never done this because i have never tried to pick up chicks but one technique that i KNOW would work when approaching women with the hopeful expectation of going out or even a one night stand is to just walk up to them and tell them straight out and honest, "hey there.....i was sitting over there for about 15 minutes trying to think of a way to approach ya and talk to ya but really didn't know how so i just decided to come over and tell ya that. i wish i was more outgoing". after that, give her a sincere compliment. she's gonna be flattered first of all. she is going to think your cute with being a little insecure which will lead her to initiate a conversation so you wont have to. one of the questions you ask her is why she is here and then work on helping her achieve the reason why she is there.....wherever it is. so many guys think they need pickup lines and need to be confident and secure in what they do all the time and that is not true. honesty and sincerity go a long way with women. they want to connect on an emotional level
so like i said, people over think things WAY too much when in fact, it's pretty easy to just be ones self and push themselves in the area of approaching women or just trying to get what they want in general.
d***. i don't know what got in to me tonight. i came here to search for a theme for a website i want to build up and ended up here running my mouth haha
i just think people really go out of their way to over complicate things when things aren't complicated at all. it's like when i see people come on this forum to learn techniques and methods for internet marketing(and other things related) but don't take action because they over think things. they are too busy concentrating on all the ways they can fail and never do shit. i see that same attitude in guys sometimes when it comes to women.
women pick up on that shit. when i look at things closely, it's not about being some alpha male or someone who is dominate or someone who is secure. it's about the mindset guys should have when approaching not only women but people in general without any expectations.
nobody likes rejection but rejection comes from expectations. if you don't have expectations, you can't be rejected. it's as simple as that. if a girl you may be interested in isn't interested in you? you have to have the "who cares" attitude knowing that it wasn't meant to be or else there would have been a connection that day or night.
i am actually the complete opposite of a couple of my best guy friends where they see picking up women as a numbers game. they were always approaching girls to try and pick them up. this is what they were naturally comfortable with though unlike me and it was a numbers game with them. they got turned down all the time. something i didn't want to take part in personally.
all i did was be myself and incororated techniques to get women's attention indirectly where they would notice me and i would pretend not to notice them. you know what happens after that? THEY approach YOU. and to tell you the truth, not once in my life have i EVER approached a woman to pick her up.....EVER. the people i dated approached me. now i am picky when it comes to dating so i had to turn these chicks down a lot of the times. i've only been in 4 relationships my whole life. some people would think that's pathetic but they were ALL long term relationships.
you know what these books probably tell ya to do? be an alpha male. show confidence. own the room. the shit some of my friends used to pull but they were naturally outgoing with people.
some of the shit i would pull would be things like:
1: if i am at a grocery store in the cereal isle and i saw a pretty cute chick, that was next to me, i would throw my hands up say aloud to get her attention "man, i am getting so tired of cherios" and then i would turn my head after a second and make eye contact with her. most often than not they will pipe in and talk to ya and even offer an alternative to the shit your complaining about to yourself outloud. this happened to me once and all i did was look at her. that opened the door for me to look in her cart and asked her why she was buying ramen noodles(since it's one of my favorites) knowing she would tell me she likes it even though it's one of the cheapest soups you can buy and then i show excitement from that response and told her how i live on the stuff. there ya go. something in common and then it grew from there. we became friends but nothing happened because i knew there wasn't a true connection
2: one of my favorite things to do is start a conversation with a little shock value where it's an instant conversation piece like when i go up to women(when i am out with friends) and tell them about how we are having this discussion about my theory of all women being bisexual. then i ask them for their input. this starts a conversation and a debate EVERY SINGLE TIME. it's a fun silly way to engage in conversation with people you might be interested in without any expectations. after the conversation starts and comes to a conclusion, it opens doors to other conversations. works every day time if one can do it laughing and smiling knowing it's to be used more of as a joke. but it also has some truth to it. that's why i have used to so much to get women's input. there are more bisexual women than there are bisexual guys because women are more in to an emotional connection than guys and they all share that in common and are attracted to eachother more.
3: i was at a regional dart championship tourney once. i didn't even notice this chick noticing me. she came up to me and wanted a hug. i got terribly confused because i was trying to wonder how i know her. anyway, i asked her if i knew her and she said "no, just wanted to give ya a hug". stupid me still had a confused look on my face. this chick was HOT. when my friends saw what was going on, they jumped in and told her that they would all give her a hug and they did. then she walked away and i got so much shit from my friends after that ha. but the reason why she approached me was because i got her to notice me. i felt really bad though because i think i made this chick feel rejected.
i used to hang out in bars ALL the time because i liked shooting darts and playing pool and even getting addicted to that stupid golden tee golf game. i was always there to have fun. not to pick up chicks. but i would still talk to them.
one of the easiest conversation breakers in a bar is deciding to put money in the jukebox. you go up to someone you like and ask them "what music do ya like? i'm about to put some money in the jukebox" more than half the time, she'll come with ya to pick out a couple songs. right there, the the door opens to talk about music.
another one when i am bored because my friends are doing their own thing sometimes is to ask them to play some darts or shoot some pool. if they know how and are interested, they will surely play a game or two. if they don't know how to play, you just grab their hand and tell them you'll teach them. i used to do that all the time and that was one on one time with them for me to figure out if that was someone worth pursuing or not with no expectations. just having fun.
when i was playing these games with these girls, i would never let them beat me and whenever they made a bad shot, i would tell them flat out that they really suck and i would insult them....but in a very jokingly way. i have found that that breaks the ice more than not to loosen things up. if it doesn't, the chick doesn't have a sense of humor and i like to leave that situation as fast as i can because for me, the chick has to at least have a sense of humor. where's the fun without it?
i remember once when one of my freinds who was a girl and married was talking to me about dating and relationships. i forget why that converssation got started. anyway, she noticed i never really dated much and was giving me advice to attract girls. she told me to wear better clothes and not holey jeans and t-shirts haha. yea, that was me back then. it still is. she told me i have to dress better. i am sure that that may work in a supercifical way but what i told her was that if a girl doesn't like me for who i am and what i am confortable with, i wouldn't want anything to do with her anyway. the point was that i just wanted to be myself. i was never in to impressing anyone.
what did that attitude do for me? well rather than dating one girl after the next for years and rather than have the average 2-3 best friends thatmost of my guy friends experienced, i managed to have about 15 best friends and never got hurt from relationships that end after a month or two. it got me in to long lasting friendships and relationships.
seriously.....if a guy has to pick up a book to find out the secrets in how to change ones self to dating hot chicks, they don't have a CLUE and the book is going to make it worse because they are gonna try to impliment the things that don't come naturally. insecurity isn't a bad thing unless you make it a bad thing by thinking that women don't go for guys like that. i call bullshit. something i learned a long time ago is that if you can show a little insecurity, women dig that shit! alot more than the alpha male types.
i've never done this because i have never tried to pick up chicks but one technique that i KNOW would work when approaching women with the hopeful expectation of going out or even a one night stand is to just walk up to them and tell them straight out and honest, "hey there.....i was sitting over there for about 15 minutes trying to think of a way to approach ya and talk to ya but really didn't know how so i just decided to come over and tell ya that. i wish i was more outgoing". after that, give her a sincere compliment. she's gonna be flattered first of all. she is going to think your cute with being a little insecure which will lead her to initiate a conversation so you wont have to. one of the questions you ask her is why she is here and then work on helping her achieve the reason why she is there.....wherever it is. so many guys think they need pickup lines and need to be confident and secure in what they do all the time and that is not true. honesty and sincerity go a long way with women. they want to connect on an emotional level
so like i said, people over think things WAY too much when in fact, it's pretty easy to just be ones self and push themselves in the area of approaching women or just trying to get what they want in general.
d***. i don't know what got in to me tonight. i came here to search for a theme for a website i want to build up and ended up here running my mouth haha
04-20-2015, 05:56 PM
Actually I'm downloading this not for myself but for my website, because I believe @ California Kid there is NO SECRET.. I will just going to use it as a content with a little editing of course.
04-20-2015, 09:51 PM
Good stuff, California Kid!
04-20-2015, 11:55 PM
GOT SOMEONE IN MY MIND HOPE THIS WILL HELP TO GET
04-21-2015, 01:06 AM
I agree with California Dreaming on what he is saying. You don't want to over complicate the simple. Getting women is not a rocket science. In my community we have a saying. "Choose what is choosing you." That whole mindset of getting internet dwelling males all amp and geeked up for smoking hawt females is the total wrong mindset.
#1. Women do the choosing, despite what the dating gurus try to preach. If you approach a girl and get her number it was because she CHOSE to give it to you for whatever reason. Sorry just like in nature females choose whom they let between their legs.
#2. Give them something to choose then. Yes that means improve your product (YOU).
#3. Dating is all about marketing so don't get it twisted.
#1. Women do the choosing, despite what the dating gurus try to preach. If you approach a girl and get her number it was because she CHOSE to give it to you for whatever reason. Sorry just like in nature females choose whom they let between their legs.
#2. Give them something to choose then. Yes that means improve your product (YOU).
#3. Dating is all about marketing so don't get it twisted.