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bump for the OTO would be grateful

yes bump for the OTO

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(02-19-2015 03:56 AM)Quasar Wrote: [ -> ]\\Review//

These guys are way too funny! I call them Big Mouth 1 and Big Mouth 2. Have any of you bothered to ask why they sell this crap? If they make s-o-o much money using their systems, why do they need you or your "small" money? Hell, they already made six-figures in quarter one! NOT!

Let's forget about the totally arrogant attitude both of them have - they piss you off before you even buy anything! Just listen to videos carefully - especially the OTO video! If they were even 10% as successful AND such masters of "doing what they preach" in their programs, why the f*ck are they selling their golden shit?!

They break Cardinal Rule #1 in ANY kind of sales: You don't insult your prospects BEFORE you sell them anything! In their condescending, insulting approach to talking to you, do you really believe they do this shit successfully?

Bullshit! Total bullshit!

Make no mistake - both these clowns are MASTERS ...

At conning you and taking your money!

They have been peddling their software and magic beans for years. They always make the same claims: They make 100s of thousands of dollars in "big pants," "top dog" consulting fees!

More bullshit!

One of the things I have done for years is ride along with some of the salespeople working for a few of my clients. You cannot write effective sales copy if you've never looked into the eyes and face of John or Jane Consumer. I have posted here before that I tell these guys and gals to have me ride along for calls they considered:

Uncloseable ... prospects that were totally dead or had not ever once been converted into sales or orders.

I closed lots of those prospects, and never once did I ever insult or humiliate anyone into buying! But make no mistake, applying enormous pressure is rarely about arrogance or humiliation, and I can apply incredible pressure without raising my voice or talking down to prospects.

This is how you really learn to do copywriting! This is sales in the real world, and these clowns know nothing about how to really sell!

I've trained a few hundred salespeople in my life and NEVER have I EVER coached ANYONE to talk down to people the way these Bozos claim they do! Do you like being insulted or humiliated out of your money? If you like verbal abuse and coaching/training that teaches you the same, go ahead and buy and use their crap!

These clowns are nothing but irritating and bogus! The proof is that their message is always the same - you're the idiots and they are the masters! If they had made even a few nickels offline, they wouldn't need to sell their potions and lotions to the online crowd!

You don't actually believe a couple of fast talking smoke-and-mirrors chumps from New York are using legit Paypal screens and videos to validate their stuff works, do you? You can buy those kinds of screen shots lots of places online.

But here is the biggest thing I can leave you with about these small time slick hustlers:

I have talked to both of these clowns on the phone! Yep, they don't know me from Adam, but I have talked to both of them. I pretended to be an ordinary offline merchant that was referred to them. That should have made me a super prospect, right?

Neither could handle even minor objections and both stuttered and stammered their way through ham-handed sales pitches that couldn't close a ten-year old kid on a nickel ice cream cone!

Here'e the deal: Use the front end of this offer. FORGET about the bullshit OTO! It is fabricated so you buy what they "think" is a sales presentation that "might" work. Their best stuff is in the method they are selling NOT what they claim are their methods to prospect, present or sell!

The value with these clowns is ALWAYS in the front end offer ONLY - that is where your attention should be focused! Their OTO super sales tactics and "canned" presentations have NEVER been used in the real world! They are designed ONLY to boost the size of the sale!

My Grade: 2 / 5 stars

This grade is based on the front end ONLY! The front end is only barely acceptable - nothing revolutionary here. The OTO is like their previous OTOs - worthless! SO STOP asking for it NOOBS!

LOL>.thanks for the honesty here

Seriously you have to wonder....if someone is so successful, why would they sell their system cheaply?

I had to laugh when I saw a video of one of these azzhats ...his "desk" is a folding table like you might use at picnic a white folding picnic table from walmart...he was wearin a tee shirt and a gimme cap, sitting at his plastic "desk">>>LOL..give me a break

as for noobs...seriously are you doing any of this stuff? I am amazed how many will still ask for old old reports....some with the url out of biz, domain gone..figure it out...if a report is several years old it is probably worthless in todays world anyhow

for instance - social media changes all the time....a Linkedin report from 2013 is not usable now and will only confuse you. SEO has changed drastically. Old wordpress plug ins from 2012 and 2013 probably don't work today

yes you can get good ideas from these wso's but IMHO you have to sift through a lot of bs, you need to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a prince (or princess LOL).

Mostly I think you have to develop some skills yourself..anything that is "done for ya" or "super easy, no money, no website no nuttin needed" is pure bs

These 2 guys are a prime example of why it is nice to be able to check these "moneymaking" plans out without putting money in their slimy pockets JMO

Thanks FreebieQueen for your insights and wake-up-call to all those out there struggling to make money. I'm about to throw up a half-joking method that is sure to get some newbies thinking for themselves