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(01-22-2015 05:46 AM)dreamcube Wrote: [ -> ]I was just thinking about this...

Hating on WSOs is common here but it's an excuse.

Maybe fear of failure...

If you think about it you don't have to be like them to post a WSO. If you think there is no value in other people's WSO that shouldn't hold you back from posting your own. Also good to know about the traffic vs the classifieds.

WSOs rank really well in Google too.

You used to be able to use them for launch jacking.

But the classifieds... not so much... (google knows where the people are hanging out).

You are capable of thought?!

When did this miracle take place? This is a truly lame comment and comes from a naive point of view, and clearly one of a know-nothing NOOB!

So why aren't you talking about the successful WSOs you've done? You don't need to be specific - just general bullshit will suffice.

This forum (and this section) exists because of all the crap being sold as WSOs. You may want to comment when you've grown out of puberty.

There are many members here that have done WSOs. Saying WSOs get "hated on" is a comment made by a clueless neophyte. Most WSOs get what they deserve here - honest and critical reviews.

There are many highly skilled online and offline businesspeople here - unlike the noob-based majority on the WF. If they are done right, some members (like me) go pay the sellers.

If they are as typically bad as most WSOs tend to be - they also get justly bashed. I am one of the bashers and also one of the advocates of the few that are worth even $1.

So before you post anything else that makes you sound like more of an idiot than you've already written, do something or post a WSO that has merit.

Hell, just review something that is indicative that you have more than 6 brain cells, which validates you understand anything enough to comment.

So - just post one review - that will also work for now. Thrill us with your enormous IM and business acumen NOOB!

Did you even read this or visit the thread? Less than 20 posts - since January 5th?! In the sales copy, the seller admits he has had a couple of "unsuccessful" WSOs? His WSO is based on one done by Russ Ruffino, the IM stud - who is another IM loser?!

Even if I were still peeing into a diaper, I am supposed to take the advice of an admitted recent failure - selling a WSO about making successful WSOs?!

I am sure he will be successful with "How to Pop Your WSO Cherry Successfully" and will sell thousands of copies. However, even in the title, he tell me everything I need to know.

He alienated 60% of the membership in the WF that is FEMALE!

Didn't think about that did you NOOB? He clearly doesn't even get this seemingly minor point that isn't so minor.

Let's piss off 60% of ALL potential buyers BEFORE they even read the sales copy!

That makes total sense!

NOT!

Reading, expertise, IM and offline success - these are the things that entitle you to make comments about those made by lots of pros here. (And admittedly some that aren't.)

The next time I or one of my fellow reviewers posts a review that saves you from reaching into your pocket for money to buy that sack of digital shit, you can thank me and the dozens of members who saved your as.s, NOOB.

You can make comments about "hated on" WSOs AFTER you have done something.

(01-17-2015 03:10 AM)jamalexa Wrote: [ -> ]He's following the new WF policy - no free WSOs is the Warrior Special Offers section. This was going to be a freebie now he's charging for it. Free WSOs go to the Warrior Forum Classified Ads. I just finished watching a webinar where a marketer gave his results from placing a free WSO there and there is way less traffic and way fewer optins. The price is the same so why not put your money to better use.

Correct - WSOs were in danger of going down the pan because of the number of free WSOs cropping up daily. Thankfully the new team at the WF spotted this and have filled the hole where the money was dripping out.

I'll tell you, because I've done it, that a WSO priced between $2 and $4 is so much a 'no-brainer' for most Warriors that they jump at it.

And I'll also tell you for nothing that building a buyers list from a very low cost WSO beats the hell out of a freebie list anyday.

This is a classic example of taking PLR and promoting it with excellent sales copy. At $2 there won't be any refunds, no matter how short the pdf. Vendors better make sure the OTO is better quality, though!

Also, if you are thinking of diving in with your first WSO, affiliates aren't that interested in even 100% comms on a $2 WSO. So make it more attractive with a couple of OTOs at 50% - 75% comms.

(01-22-2015 11:29 AM)MisterY Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-17-2015 03:10 AM)jamalexa Wrote: [ -> ]He's following the new WF policy - no free WSOs is the Warrior Special Offers section. This was going to be a freebie now he's charging for it. Free WSOs go to the Warrior Forum Classified Ads. I just finished watching a webinar where a marketer gave his results from placing a free WSO there and there is way less traffic and way fewer optins. The price is the same so why not put your money to better use.

Correct - WSOs were in danger of going down the pan because of the number of free WSOs cropping up daily. Thankfully the new team at the WF spotted this and have filled the hole where the money was dripping out.

I'll tell you, because I've done it, that a WSO priced between $2 and $4 is so much a 'no-brainer' for most Warriors that they jump at it.

And I'll also tell you for nothing that building a buyers list from a very low cost WSO beats the hell out of a freebie list anyday.

This is a classic example of taking PLR and promoting it with excellent sales copy. At $2 there won't be any refunds, no matter how short the pdf. Vendors better make sure the OTO is better quality, though!

Also, if you are thinking of diving in with your first WSO, affiliates aren't that interested in even 100% comms on a $2 WSO. So make it more attractive with a couple of OTOs at 50% - 75% comms.

This is how you define excellent sales copy?

Perhaps in some altered reality in another dimension!

I am going to climb out on a limb here and guess you didn't read the copy. No one looking for conversions and building a sales engine or business would put sales copy this bad up!

N-0-B-O-D-Y!

At least no one short of an idiot! Your rep rides with the copy!

So - excellent? Using who's definition? By what standard of measurement could you or anyone call this excellent sales copy?

It is so poor it has generated fewer than 20 posts in over two weeks? And you do know how to check sales of WSOs, correct?

That info is easily available. I know how to get it and I checked the stats on this! I suggest before crowning your next WSO champion, you do the same.

You will build a small list - that's a given. You are in a nest of desperate, mostly broke people. As for affiliates?

Your assertions are laughable!

Any affiliate of any value to you will want to see the sales copy, and it would end there - with them laughing their asses off. It isn't just about getting people on your list or nailing-down affiliates.

It is ALL about what you do with the list and who is promoting your stuff.

With this nitwit, the party will be over soon - if it isn't already. Over 95% of ALL online marketers don't know what to do with a list - they are totally clueless.

This guy is a classic example of someone that wants to be a player but doesn't have one inkling about sales.

The game is also about getting super-affiliates on your team. Anyone can get lousy affiliates with no problems at all - they are a dime-a-dozen.

The one and only point that is on-target is about free versus paid offer. Free is a fast trip to staying poor in any venue - not just the WF. But even in a paid model, there are winners and losers.

Which do you think this is?

Hint: What kinds of prospects are buying $1 to $4 WSOs?

As for the rest of your commentary - pure dog shit!

You've never done any of this (at least - not successfully) and it really shows!

(01-22-2015 06:38 AM)Quasar Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2015 05:46 AM)dreamcube Wrote: [ -> ]I was just thinking about this...

Hating on WSOs is common here but it's an excuse.

Maybe fear of failure...

If you think about it you don't have to be like them to post a WSO. If you think there is no value in other people's WSO that shouldn't hold you back from posting your own. Also good to know about the traffic vs the classifieds.

WSOs rank really well in Google too.

You used to be able to use them for launch jacking.

But the classifieds... not so much... (google knows where the people are hanging out).

You can make comments about "hated on" WSOs AFTER you have done something.

I see what your saying now I thought you meant the thread on here for WSO reviews.

Yes it is good to have the reviews on here so we can see if it's even worth checking out.

(01-22-2015 01:21 PM)dreamcube Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2015 06:38 AM)Quasar Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2015 05:46 AM)dreamcube Wrote: [ -> ]I was just thinking about this...

Hating on WSOs is common here but it's an excuse.

Maybe fear of failure...

If you think about it you don't have to be like them to post a WSO. If you think there is no value in other people's WSO that shouldn't hold you back from posting your own. Also good to know about the traffic vs the classifieds.

WSOs rank really well in Google too.

You used to be able to use them for launch jacking.

But the classifieds... not so much... (google knows where the people are hanging out).

You can make comments about "hated on" WSOs AFTER you have done something.

It's kind of ironic that you say not to comment until I've done something.

I've got the best selling JV Zoo product on the Warrior Forum EVER with 5,000+ sales.

So I would say that qualifies me to not be the noob in this situation.

okay bro good luck with that attitude.

(01-22-2015 02:03 PM)dreamcube Wrote: [ -> ]okay bro good luck with that attitude.

Luck doesn't count in my world Jack!

Neither do fairy tales or dreams told by wishful thinkers. I measure it with results - money.

Maybe one day, after clicking your heels together often enough, you might be able to afford my laundry bill every month!

Thanks and reps to Quasar for calling out the misogynist sales copy / headline.