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I was in MOBE. Didn't ask for the refund though.
Their model is so d*** close to a pyramid scheme that I'm amazed that the FTC hasn't looked into it.
Guess it's because they're based in....New Zealand I think.

The first training is okey and we'll worth it's $49
But the investment of $2500 to get the "license" for the high end commission is a little too high for me.
Matt's low price ($197) courses were great back in 2010. Now it's a little outdated and not too many updates since.

With the risk of getting into an illegal scheme. I steer clear.

yeah MTTB, Empower Network, or Ipas2 all of them are same

They just give you big promish. and you will got the same like other crap
low tiket product or high ticet product it doesn't matter
when you join network company like that you will get the same materials like other
they will teach you how internet marketing work and how to get traffic and aslo you will get extra material about design your own capture page to get the high conversion
you also get update webinar, etc

you dont have to waste your money just to get the same system like other low ticket product.

and after that you have to bring more people to your refferal and you got the passive income with high ticket product

actually you just make the owner more rich

actually you don't have to be traffic expert, conversion expert or guru to succed with this bussiness

it is not too difficult

if you know the basic you can success in this bussiness

you just have to master 3 things in this bussiness

traffic
capture
and conversion

if you know how you can get traffic every time you want and you know how the traffic work you can bring as much as you want and as fast as you want

and capture you don't have to be an expert to create it. just dont make it too compicated make it as simple as you can. and also you need to always optimaize your landing page .
always doing A/B test don't be lazy on it.

and the last is conversion you don't have to be an expert on it you just have to taking care to your list and create friendly email(motive, webinar, useful information, videos, etc). and it will improve your open rate. you also have always doing A/B test on it. design your own headline make your headline unique. don't just copy paste other competitions.


and if you know all this 3 things and how you can compailing it the right way. you can market any product you want. all you need to do just scale your bussiness with send traffic as much as you can and as fast as you can

note: 1 thing you need to always remember. you have to buid trust with your list and taking care of them.

It's interesting that the big names like John Chow, Shaqir Husyein are squeezing a lot of cash from their lists via MOBE. It boils down to integrity (or lack thereof)...

(09-28-2015 06:19 PM)Nesta420 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-29-2014 01:52 AM)hishaamj Wrote: [ -> ]MOBE is legit. I dont promote it or am a part of it (although I might soon once my system is complete ). But Matt Lloyd knows his shit. As far as I can tell he has a great sales funnel and not to mention the sales team that closes sales on your behalf. I don't know the exact pay structure as I am not part of it but it seems pretty lucrative. I've also seen Matt featured by other gurus like Daegan Smith, Mark Hoverson and Jonathan Budd. Daegan Smith also recently said on a video that Matt Lloyd earns $1.5million a month. So I'd follow someone who makes that type of cashola any day. I also like the fact that they have Masterminds around the world at some of the most exotic locations (Cabo, Bahamas etc). And as for the Mercs (MOBE MERC) that's legit too. If you make a certain amount off sales you accumulate points and are then eligible to get a merc in a certain price range depending on how many points you have.

There is a sucker born every minute.

This is a total pyramid scam. You buy a product that has no value at all, and then to make money you have to try to scam others into buying it the same way you were scammed into buying it. Do some research before promoting scammers like Matt Loyd and MOBE.

Thank you so much for posting a truly honest review. People who post Positive reviews on programs like this are simply people who bought the program, cant admit they made a mistake and then move on. Instead they try to get innocent people into the program to recoup their loses not caring how many others they hurt. A similar program...my advertising pays, or maps has been shut down in several conuntries. If you do a search for Matt Loyd you will come across as a lot of negative reviews.

(09-29-2014 01:52 AM)hishaamj Wrote: [ -> ]MOBE is legit. I dont promote it or am a part of it (although I might soon once my system is complete ). But Matt Lloyd knows his shit. As far as I can tell he has a great sales funnel and not to mention the sales team that closes sales on your behalf. I don't know the exact pay structure as I am not part of it but it seems pretty lucrative. I've also seen Matt featured by other gurus like Daegan Smith, Mark Hoverson and Jonathan Budd. Daegan Smith also recently said on a video that Matt Lloyd earns $1.5million a month. So I'd follow someone who makes that type of cashola any day. I also like the fact that they have Masterminds around the world at some of the most exotic locations (Cabo, Bahamas etc). And as for the Mercs (MOBE MERC) that's legit too. If you make a certain amount off sales you accumulate points and are then eligible to get a merc in a certain price range depending on how many points you have.

Disagree - reviewed the complete course and business model. The business model is an MLM model (basically, its a ponzi that has a product as its front) - think AMway or Mary Kay. Literally, the top 5-8 people on top of the ponzi make all the profit. Everyone else loses with up to 99% of people claiming losses. A ponzi scheme can't sustain itself - in an ideal situation, if everyone downstreams all throughout the US, it would take 28 cycles of downstreaming to break the ponzi and if the wealth was distributed to everyone, the amount distributed would be $1000/person. That is operating at a loss, thus, the top 5-8 or so rake in profits.

Another thing, the course uses the term "economics" like a dumbass would.

Hey everyone, I am reading all your concerns about MOBE and your right Crazysmitty, It's Not for everyone.
I personally am a MOBE Consultant and I had my reservations also at first.
On the top it does look like a MLM scam. But your missing the bigger picture.

MOBE Stands for My Online Business Education. Our focus is on helping people who are interested in learning how to create and run their own online business, apart from MOBE. MOBE is just a program which they waive in your face, well because they are trying to make money also selling and having new people upsell their business.
Undoubtedly I have to say being at their bottom level gives me access to some great tools and knowledge to build my business. I am in the process of branding myself and starting my own online membership website to help people also, but more like a online college. but that idea may change soon.
MOBE is Just like a McDonald's Franchise when they ask you "would you like to supersize that?" They Up sell You....MOBE has upsells that go all the way up to 30K and beyond by invitation only.
If you Start the 21-Step process you opted into their affiliate sales funnel. So yes in that they believe your wanting to become a consultant. Although You have no commitment to purchase or as they call it get Positioned as MLR (Master Resell Rights) level in the MOBE Consultant program. MLR is the bottom of the Totem pole, but it is the first level where you can start making 1,200 on a single commission for programs like MTTB where they also become a MLR consultant. They have quite a few levels.

MOBE has 100's of proven programs...that work for any small business trying to succeed online. That includes brick and mortar companies looking to take their business online.
Or if you have your own product you can have Other MOBE affiliates promote it and make sales for you.
You can go to work directly with MOBE like a 9-5 job, you can become a Coach for small businesses trying to increase their online sales and presence. Or for other entrepreneurs.

In the End what I am trying to get at is MOBE is not for everyone and that is fine, but for business owners and people looking for a way to invest in themselves and start a successful online business MOBE is a great asset to get you started.

If anyone is seriously interested in our new programs or looking for marketing tools for your business please contact me. I would love to help you and of course I wouldn't mind a sale either, I mean that's what our end goal of an online business right. haha
I can send you to my website or give you direct links to learn more about them if you want. You can also ask me any questions you may have also. I promise not to shove offers you don't want in your face..

Why are there always people calling every single successful internet marketer a scammer?

MOBE is a great company, they give you crazy high commissions and all you have to do is direct people to the front end. Their sales team will close the users on the backend FOR YOU.

I agree with MTTB is old and sort of outdated. But it is well worth the $49, you will also get a coach that will help you.

To be honest the coaches i have worked with are unresponsive and they are not fulfilling what they are promising.

MOBE is not close to being a scam company, they have great masterminds where you can network with all the top earners.

And NO i have not been paid a single dime for writing this, i am just irritated reading all of these people calling everyone and everything a scam.

(05-28-2016 10:44 PM)Darkgn Wrote: [ -> ]Why are there always people calling every single successful internet marketer a scammer?

MOBE is a great company, they give you crazy high commissions and all you have to do is direct people to the front end. Their sales team will close the users on the backend FOR YOU.

I agree with MTTB is old and sort of outdated. But it is well worth the $49, you will also get a coach that will help you.

To be honest the coaches i have worked with are unresponsive and they are not fulfilling what they are promising.

MOBE is not close to being a scam company, they have great masterminds where you can network with all the top earners.

And NO i have not been paid a single dime for writing this, i am just irritated reading all of these people calling everyone and everything a scam.

@Darkgn....Preach!

I was going to join MOBE until I found out that Matt is just as shady as David Wood over in Empower. Mack who is big on promoting MLM's and Biz Opps actually recruited Shaqir and then Shaqir mysteriously got pulled from his downline which is the same shit that happened to him in Empower network.

So if they are willing to do something shady like that with him who does numbers, then I'm sure they would do it to you.

Just my 2 cents

If I had of listened and took notice of all you guys who are making Mobe out to be something that it is not, I would have missed an incredible opportunity. I have been with them for over a month now and I do not have any intentions of leaving. I dislike empower network with a vengeance and mlm and network marketing I dislike as well... just do not like the rar rar business and the way they go about things, I am not saying they are doing anything wrong, I am just not comfortable with how they go about things... with Mobe it is entirely different. I have a mentor who talks to me regularly to make sure I am not stuck and of course if you want to proceed you have to invest more money but your earnings cover that so why would anyone complain if it meant you were making more money and progressing. The products they have are not worthless at all, in fact they are there to help you learn and make more money in any business opportunity you may decide to take on. Mobe is about online business education and none of what most of you are saying... and those who say they got out quick... maybe you should have stayed in quick. You have the power to either part with your money or keep your money... Mobe does not make you part with your money. If you follow Mobe's proven system you will make money... if you don't then get out if that is the way feel. Mobe is an online business education program where they teach you all aspects of business, including how to invest in other businesses, precious metals etc. and today i am learning all about the franchise business model... so it is not all about taking your money for nothing in return. It is always a wise thing to know that what you are saying about people and anything really is the truth otherwise you ruin your reputation and have egg all over your face.