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I guess whatever we buy could be rehash or am I wrong? What else can we do? I mean I can spend $10 to see what others are doing and use it to tell others a better way or come up with something on my own. What's wrong with creating a product?, that's what he's saying or wanting others to do.. But I do understand believe me it gets old after a while and to get ALL excited about it is a bit much. But it happens everywhere these days in every area of life, the same 'ol same 'ol.. but we can use it to benefit or we can slam it over and over again.. A car is a car, but then again it can be better and I'm from the old school of doing things.. If you said in the day that a car was a car, my MG WASN'T it was a CAR!! But seeing how things are going these days I just want to get around the best I can. If he's a cheater call him out! That's ok by me but we can still learn from him and all those who are trying to make a fast buck. Let's just do it right! I haven't seen anyone say they have a better way of doing things.. what else is there? We can only do what IM has to offer.. tell us what we need to be doing. I'll learn as much as I can and if it doesn't work I'll try something else until it works! Something has to work.. and for the most part even what he's offering does work even though it's all rehash.. sorry to say.. (that's not bad is it?, it makes a few bucs) Fizzzzzz

It's obvious some people don't have a clue what integrity is.

I don't care what information the product contains.

Like Filsaime. He'll never see a penny of my money and never receive a positive
word of recommendation from me no matter what type of product he puts
out or how valuable it might be. I don't support hacks, shills and people with
major character flaws.

So you are amazed because they create shi.t products and can sell a lot of them?

Okay, that explains the failure to understand integrity and credibility.

Thanks to all the posters who pointed out that this is mostly re-hashed. And another thanks to those who so rightly point out "if it was that easy, everybody would be doing it".

Maybe some members of this forum who know the 'good guys' (if there are any?) and the out and out scam artists could create a list. IMHO one of the 'good guys and gals' is Erica Stone.

(02-14-2014 08:02 PM)danimation3d Wrote: [ -> ]People here making it sound like product creation is so simple, and Alex is ripping everyone off...
If it were that simple, everyone would be doing it.
Like jennatalia said, if you think it's rehashed, go ahead and become an expert yourself. If this guy can do it, and it's apparently just repeating what everyone already does, why not make a few bucks yourself?
You won't, because you'd rather sit in here and complain about products.

If you were as successful as I'm sure you'd like to be, you wouldn't be bothering to b***** about product creators who seem to be 'beneath you'

Btw jennatalia, sweet idea, love it

Been reading long?

This remark is as stupid as you no doubt are.

And the people in this discussion are very beneath me - in more ways than one. Who do you think writes their copy, develops their products, and creates their marketing plans?

No one has said Jeffrey's stole anything - he just sells you the same copy of "Mother Goose" with a different cover - over and over and over again.

Only he sells it as a new product EVERY TIME.

That apparently is cool with you guys - only it isn't selling - it is being a whore.

As for the m.oron posting above you, I want to see just one "advanced" product s/he is selling. They are one more "wish, hope and a prayer" BS artist that doesn't know crap from Crisco.

That is just one more bullshit post from one more clueless wannabe that thinks they know marketing and business - or anything about product development and creation.

I have forgotten more about product development, marketing and selling stuff online or offline than that a.sshole knows now or will ever know.

And yeah, I DO have the bank account(s) to prove it and back it up.

As for ANY of these guys bothering me - on their best days as antagonists, they are no more irritating than mosquitoes.

But I believe in practicing a little truth-in-business - the word that eludes you all as NonConformer has pointed out is

Integrity.

Yeah, I know this is a big word for you and the "expert" product creator/seller above you, so look it up.

It is okay for you id.iots to sell all the stupid things you can come-up with as long as you have buyers - regardless of how little or how much money you sc.rew them out of - this is what is at the root of all your arguments.

So, I can f*ck as many of you newbies as I like as long as I do an incredible job of marketing?

So you can follow the same path to f*cking as many people as you can find to buy your sh*it?

This is okay with you guys?

Really?

So a kid can set up a lemonade stand on the street corner where you live, and that is ultra cool - it's a great way of learning about commerce and business, and the kid may want a new soccer ball.

Now, let a hooker just stand there and sell all the puss she can - that's okay too, right?

Hell, she has to eat! She needs the coin even more.

Or maybe a dude with the desire to make a few bucks visits the kid at that lemonade stand and sells him a little crack. That's okay too, right?

He needs the bucks too.

Using your lame.ass logic and thought processes - there is zero difference between these three.

It is just business - right?

Everyone is entitled to make money as long as the plan to f*ck them works to perfection.

I can f*uck as many people as I like with worthless bullshit as long as my marketing is good.

You guys are worse than pitiful - you aren't even close to understanding why the animals mentioned have the reps they do with EXPERTS that really do "get" them!

Let's see... Okay, that explains the failure to understand integrity and credibility.

Read more @ bestblackhatforum.com : [GET] Alex Jeffreys' Ultimate Profit Empire http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...z2tKAWS800
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, 'all in the name of bestblackhatforum.com............ yeah I can see that's why we are here... ok I must have been out to lunch here..
Integrity? Do you know what that even means? I'm not saying we have none but when you mention 'bestblackhatforum' most people don't associate integrity with it and that is for sure.. I know there are good people here as well as bad but isn't that everywhere? I don't like the innuendo you're laying down towards us. If people don't line up to you then they are bad and you are all good right? I thank you for pointing out the problem it looks like Alex took you for a ride but if you look over at his seminars there are thousands benefiting from his teaching.. So what terrible thing did he do to you? You didn't make the money he promised or what? What has he done to rub you the wrong way?. Did he rip you off? The reason I'm here is for this very reason. I want to know who's good and who's not good to follow. Or if I want to follow anyone at all. I just want to be able to make some money online and have been online over 20 years and I understand what you're saying but just to point out the darkness is NOT enough.. What is the answer? Please tell us... All I know is there are a lot of people out there that say one thing is bad and don't have any answers or they have a so called better product that's no better or worse.. so give us some direction and we'll check it out because I guess we the people can't seem to figure it out we have to have someone like you to tell us it's all wrong.. Is it all wrong? Is the forum here wrong? What's the answer? I'm interested to what you have to say.. If you have a product by all means post it or do you just want to continue to curse the darkness???

(02-15-2014 05:23 AM)cousinfizz Wrote: [ -> ]Let's see... Okay, that explains the failure to understand integrity and credibility.

Read more @ bestblackhatforum.com : [GET] Alex Jeffreys' Ultimate Profit Empire http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...z2tKAWS800
bestblackhatforum.com
, 'all in the name of bestblackhatforum.com............ yeah I can see that's why we are here... ok I must have been out to lunch here..
Integrity? Do you know what that even means? I'm not saying we have none but when you mention 'bestblackhatforum' most people don't associate integrity with it and that is for sure.. I know there are good people here as well as bad but isn't that everywhere? I don't like the innuendo you're laying down towards us. If people don't line up to you then they are bad and you are all good right? I thank you for pointing out the problem it looks like Alex took you for a ride but if you look over at his seminars there are thousands benefiting from his teaching.. So what terrible thing did he do to you? You didn't make the money he promised or what? What has he done to rub you the wrong way?. Did he rip you off? The reason I'm here is for this very reason. I want to know who's good and who's not good to follow. Or if I want to follow anyone at all. I just want to be able to make some money online and have been online over 20 years and I understand what you're saying but just to point out the darkness is NOT enough.. What is the answer? Please tell us... All I know is there are a lot of people out there that say one thing is bad and don't have any answers or they have a so called better product that's no better or worse.. so give us some direction and we'll check it out because I guess we the people can't seem to figure it out we have to have someone like you to tell us it's all wrong.. Is it all wrong? Is the forum here wrong? What's the answer? I'm interested to what you have to say.. If you have a product by all means post it or do you just want to continue to curse the darkness???

Please PM me your physical address so I can send you a flashlight - no charge - totally on me.

Perhaps it will illuminate the path of existence of information that has been amassed by dozens of search engines like the Big G for a couple of decades.

I cannot help you - you are clueless if you have been online for 20-years and not made money.

You are a habitual and perpetual wannabe and wanderer.

I would have more success educating a rock.

Please go to your next surfing stop and make more equally imbecilic posts.

I'll give you a hint though stud - I don't know Jeffreys and don't want to - but I have read his stuff.

And you are clueless about how to ask for help.

I would not help you now even if you threw money at me - it would be a waste of your money and my time.

My time trumps your money - big time!

As for Jeffreys, this is the same crap he sold in 2007 and before - a few dozen times, as has been noted.

I think this is the whole point - which is a simple one you missed altogether.

I've preached more times than I care to count in various threads on this forum. I'll repeat - Learn copywriting and project management skills and how to develop a QUALITY product based on what your target markets wants and desires.

You see that link in my signature file? Everything you could possibly need to learn how to build not only a project or business, but a d*** empire can be found there. While you are learning take action. Like integrity, action trumps all.

Pretty simple. Stop chasing shiny things and following gurus who are nothing but low-life hacks.

Most of the people on here that are broke are broke because they are always looking for the next money making gimmick. Learn FUNDAMENTAL marketing skills and you won't need gimmicks or hack guru's.

Why the fuck would I "waste" my time following moneymaking gimmicks that will just die off to begin with when I can be building businesses and products that are evergreen? Businesses and products that will sit there and earn me money for the rest of my life. <--- There's your million dollar idea.

I typing this sitting out on my deck on a beautiful sunny day. About to go for a bike ride.

Why?

Because I can do whatever the hell I want, anytime I want.

How?

Because I've already learned the fundamentals of business, marketing and copywriting and took action on them. I don't need gimmicks nor chase them. Ever wonder why I rarely ever post anything from that WSO forum or discuss quick tricks? It's a waste of my time. Just like this thread is becoming. However, there are a few people that will pick up on this and just maybe, with a little flicker of electric juice flowing through their braincells, they'll get it. They'll finally GET IT and begin the transformation to entrepreneur. And an entrepreneur with integrity.

NonConformer - rep added as that post probably has more value than the original [Get] from Jeffreys. Cheers.

Os

(02-15-2014 06:06 AM)NonConformer Wrote: [ -> ]I've preached more times than I care to count in various threads on this forum. I'll repeat - Learn copywriting and project management skills and how to develop a QUALITY product based on what your target markets wants and desires.

You see that link in my signature file? Everything you could possibly need to learn how to build not only a project or business, but a d*** empire can be found there. While you are learning take action. Like integrity, action trumps all.

Pretty simple. Stop chasing shiny things and following gurus who are nothing but low-life hacks.

Yes 20 years online and giving stuff away. Only until recently have I wanted to take the next step. Gotta start somewhere, so I'll read you over and since you all seem to have a one up on me I can deal with the rebuke! I've had to come from behind before I just had to deal with life, like helping a friend of mine make a living for himself and then, well I'm not going into that. And how do you know what I've done any way? Because I'm not asking the 'so called' right questions? Ooooh, I'm impressed Quasar.. So what, I could care less if you've made millions! You know Nothing about me! Or what I've come through, I wouldn't want to learn from you anyway, you're to cool for me.. thanks for the input guys and I'll be seeing you later! I bet you have a lot of friends that just love you Quasar.. take care..

20 years online giving stuff away?

- Not sure I'm following you on that.

If you are not making money, stop giving stuff away and re-focus on something that produces the results you want to achieve.