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(01-02-2014 03:13 PM)ashishinsan Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-02-2014 12:08 PM)taolaymay Wrote: [ -> ]Thininstall of vmware will help you do that. Scrapebox licensing your computer by mapping mac address + hdd id with their database on server (i know that server), so you can fake it by software. Beside, scrapebox give you a chance to change other computer license in a month.

Thanks friend for you reply. I tried to change MAC ID on my same Laptop(in which scrapebox is already activated). But even after changing MAC ID scrabebox is working. I can understand. Should I try to change HDD ID and test after that?

And where are you getting this information? Just assuming? Unless you A) were the programmer B) in the "loop" with scrapebox (on the team, programmer, support, ect.) or C) removed the protection from the exe and inspected it with Olly or IDA or something... then you are just passing your "thought" as a fact.

There are many many ways Scrapebox can come up with the key that identifies a specific computer. They could use the CPU or Motherboard IDs, The ID of the hard drive, the windows version and build, the current logged in user, and probably about 10+ other things they could use as "identifiers". Then you can have any combination of them together.. maybe it also uses their transaction ID from when they first paid for scrapebox? maybe it also uses a random salt thats identified to each member, maybe its uses the date they purchased SB.. No, not "just the date" but the date combined with any combination of the other options..

HARDDRIVE + MOBO + WINVER + WINBUILD + CURRENTUSER + RANDOMSALT + TRANSID + DATEOFPURCH
or
MOBO + CURRENTUSER + WINVER + RANDOMSALT
or
HARDDRIVE+MOBO+WINVER+TRANSID
or
HARDDRIVE+MOBO+SALT

you could probably come up with 100 variations.. They could take the key options as I listed above, and do any type of encryption or hash to it as well.. It could be half your PC info and the other half info stored for your account on the SB server.. they could take the key, then get the MD5 hash of it, or SHA256, SHA512, bcrypt... ect.. ect. ect.. the list goes on..

So unless you know 100% how they generate this "key" for identifying and locking to a computer, you really shouldnt be posting a statement like "Scrapebox licensing your computer by mapping mac address + hdd id with their database on server (i know that server)".. I highly doubt you know anything about that server, other than the IP or hostname. I doubt you have any special access or have even seen on nano-byte of information stored on it, or have any knowledge of the exact algorith used to generate the key for a computer.

So thanks to your post, you just made a dozen people that read your post think they know exactly how it works... when in fact, its bad information posted as a fact.

(01-02-2014 05:47 PM)ashishinsan Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the CyberPunk quick reply. I tried to change my Volume Serial Number(its not Hard disk id but only c drive's ID) of my C drive at where Scrapebox is placed.
After changing it stops working. Now I have to restore my Volume ID of C:. Also after that I will try to use it on my other Laptop by copying the same Volume ID.
I would be very thankful to you. Please suggest more.

I am not sure if you mean something else and are just using incorrect terminology, your 2nd sentence doesn't make sense. In *most* Windows computers by default, your primary hard drive (aka: HD, hard disc, storage drive, ect) letter is "C". So when you go to "My Computer" and it shows all your drives, C is a hard disk, drive, or whatever you want to call it). You said "its not hard disk id but only c drives id". They are the same thing. C drive is just a partition of your hard drive. If you have a 1TB hard drive and you split it into 3 partition (100GB 450GB 450GB), your first could be drive letter "C" as 100GB, then could be whatever next letter is available.. E, F, ect.. YOu can change the letter of the drive to whatever you want, as long as its not already in use. You can also change the partition sizes at any time, simply by dragging a slider to make it bigger/smaller, if you use Partition Magic or some other partition software. I know you werent asking about partitions, but just adding some icing on the cake lol. I have a 1TB hard drive on my PC, and I have a 4 partitions, splitting the total 1TB size up between the 4 however I want. I usually do about 120GB-200GB for my main drive that runs my primary OS. I do not fill my primary active OS partition past 50% as drives seem to start slowing down when they get 60,70,80% full. Oddly, I have encountered it happening on partitions that were too small or I out grew, regardless of the other partitions space free. It could have been my desktop back then, I can't confirm thats true, but it happened to me before. I easily start filling up my drive after about 6 months to about 60GB on my OS partition. So 120Gb is good for me. I try to keep storage on my "DATACENTER" partition which is shared with the network, and is my largest partition. I have drive letter "X" assigned to my Windows XP Enterprise 32bit partition, which is only I think 80GB as I only use it for cracking programs (if its not .net, as you can do .net on win7 64bit just fine). I have a 100MB (I think) partition thats just big enough to house my KVM, which emulates the Microsoft server for activating my Win7 Enterprise and MS Office 2013.

- anyways, the main reason why everyone should use partitions (unless they are still on an old hard drive of like < 100GB lol) is to mitigate data loss. It is still possible for the whole drive to become corrupt, or a virus to jump to other drive letters, ect... However, in most cases, it can spare you the trouble of backing up or losing files. If you have say a 60GB OS partition and 200GB storage partition, and you keep picture/documents/everything saved on your storage drive. When you get a virus and need to format your computer, you can just format the C partition, without affecting your other partitions. If one day your computer wont boot to windows. You can pop the disk in and format or re-install windows into the C partition, and not be nervous as hell hoping you didn't lose your junk. I did have my Windows 7 where my user's files were on my storage drive.. Like you have C:\users\usernamehere\picture or documents, ect... Mine was stored on the network (my datacenter on the network).. So I didnt have a "my documents" and stuff on my OS drive.. When I clicked "Documents" it went to my network storage for my own user... Good thing about this, you can keep the same "My Documents" and "My Pictures" and "Downloads" folder for years as it never gets deleted when you format, because its on your storage partition. I dont know if you have to, but I have it using an internal network path and not a physical drive path (D:\somewhere\here) but like //DATACENTER/Users/usernamehere

I got into all that just b/c lol.. When you format your hard drive, it may be good for you guys to know, that it changes the hard drive's ID and other identifiers. So when you format the drive, stuff like scrapebox see it as a completely different drive, thus it wont be activated anymore... If you simply re-install windows but DO NOT format the drive, some programs still work as they see the drive as still being the same. This isn't the case for every program, as they each can have their own way of identifying. I think I did this once with Scrapebox, I re-installed windows over itself, and SB still worked. 99% of the time I format though. If I am going to take the time to install windows (maybe my PC wouldnt boot up, got a virus, ect.) I might as well format while I am at it.. At least for a short while, its like a brand new computer again lol.

Cyberpunk do you have skype? I would like to consult you for something about proxies..

You can run few instances of Scrapebox at once on the same PC. You just need to copy the files From SB directory to another dir, that way you can scrape with one of the instances and post with the other for example.

I know my post doesn't answer your question, but if your goal is to do few different things at once with SB this is the easiest way, of course if you PC is fast enough to handle few SB instances