T-shirt (teespring) is my plan realistic?

[zaff]

What you can also do is to start building a fanpage (or a couple) in a evergreen niche.Get a wordpress plugin to post content to it daily and grow it slowly and just like "profits" said,it can yield more $ then if you run all over the place trying to follow trending designs.

There was a tool shared called "interest architect" but it needs to be shared/cracked again.That tool seems to be pretty good at finding interests which you can target on FB.It can find interests on fb pages,movies,books,brands,wikipedia,sites which you can use for targeting.It's likely that if someones has hunting as a hobby,he/she also likes a movie,a book,website about hunting.

Good luck!

[maniboy]

Have you considered selling your teeshirts on some other site where it doesnt have to be tipped before if goes to print. Looking at the amount of money which you're paying per design (which I think is pretty high) you might be better off going down the single tee sale route - at least you will claw back some of your expenses rather than lose it all if the design isnt popular. Your targettting is just as important as your design. I've seen some really good designs which are a complete flop and seen some ordinary designs that have tipped.

What I would recommend you do is to set up ALL your designs on one of the sites below and advertise on FB using a bitly or prettylink. Do your split testing and see which one is selling well and then scale it up (on Teespring if you want). The other other option you got is Shopify - not many people are using it but I know a few people that are making a few grand a month with it. If you're intersted in this, let me know and I will point you in the right direction.

Here's a list of some online stores where you can sell individually. There's loads more sites out there but this is a start:
gearlaunch.com
bustedtees.com
sunfrogshirts.com
cafepress.com
zazzle.com
spreadshirt.com
teefury.com
represent.com
viralstyle.com

Hope you make a killing!!! All the best.

[Reef215]

(02-13-2015 06:22 PM)profits Wrote:  One thing is to use teesprings Audience Intersect which will help in not hitting the same target as everyone else in the same niche. "I just HOPE that one of them does" should answer you question. Sounds like rolling the dice. Business shouldn't be a gamble, that's what casinos are for. Personal opinion after 12 years of selling shirts online and yes using teespring for a year or so is to build a small niche store with multiple designs and build a solid recurring income continually adding new products and creating a customer base of your own. Teespring is also filled with thieves and if you get a fast selling item you can be assured someone will be selling your same design almost instantly. There have been some weeks when I have been targeted by as many as a dozen different sellers pushing the exact same design. A lot of illustrators I work with that have nothing to do with teespring see their designs pilfered and selling there. I've seen 5 of my own copyrighted designs that I never put on teespring show up there.

I know selling 1000 shirts a month sounds good but there are a lot of websites selling 100 to 1000 shirts in a day, there's even sellers on ebay and etsy that exceed 50K or more sales in a year within a single niche.

I know we are all marketers here and scarcity, hot niches and all that is what we learn but the real money in selling shirts is just plain consistency. If your chasing a fad that market is already over. Pick something your passionate about and it shows thru in your brand. Find someone local or even online that does direct to garment printing (there's no minimums and no set up) until sales merit screen printing, since your passionate about the niche you know where your potential customers hang out and engage them. Get their opinions on potential products, let them feel they are part of the process and you'll garner true fans that can be worth hundreds and thousands of dollars each as time rolls on.

Also, if that is near your last bit of money, how do you plan to scale up if you come up with a good seller? You have $200 for testing advertising and you won't have any cash flow until after you tip and the orders are filled. If you look closely at the better info products about teespring they spend a lot on ads to get to those numbers. As long as the sales make more than the ad spend it's all good but if you don't have the the money to really scale up you're going to be using credit or friends and family which is not an ideal choice. If you are thinking about just doing a bunch of small campaigns and have a winner by the time you run the second and third round your niche could be saturated with copycats.

Not saying it can't work, it sounds a lot like the TEE TITAN course and there is money to be made on teespring. If you enjoy the rush of finding hot niches, pillaging them and finding another and then another then go for it 120%. One thing I've learned over the years is if the barrier to enter an opportunity is low then there will be a lot of people mucking it up and if the barrier requires work there is smaller competition since most don't want to work. I'm kinda an old fart who prefers putting the work in once and profiting from it for years or decades to come since that is what has worked for me.

If you have the confidence, anything will work because you'll do everything you can to make it happen. I look forward to hearing about your success in whatever you choose to do. Keep hustling.

1. I agree "business shouldn't be a gamble" but finding that perfect combination of shirt to audience almost certainly is. Or in my opinion it is. Because as another poster said, you can get two similarly designed shirts and go to the same audience and one will sell and the other won't and no real rhyme or reason. Thats what I was alluding to.
2. And I agree with the organic Niche building and that is in my plan as well. I am going through training now on establishing that. And i would LOVE to get consistency in an evergreen Niche! My passion unfortunately is thick women (i'll explain later) and i have an idea for that but its going to require a little more planning and money to make it done right
3. Teespring is a thieves paradise!
4. And the scaling up is an issue. And that was my plan actually lol...i have friends who have tax returns and If I can show that if its a successful campaign then they will "fund" the scale up
5. I definitely do not enjoy the feast and famine approach. I think it works when you have 1k to waste in finding the right Tee:Audience combo per trend and can recoup by scaling fast and hard. But until then I would like to have consistency
6. If you dont mind me asking are you a full time internet marketer not depending on outside income other than what you make via selling products online?

And i definitely will keep everyone updated. Max Reps!

[Reef215]

(02-13-2015 08:03 PM)zaff Wrote:  What you can also do is to start building a fanpage (or a couple) in a evergreen niche.Get a wordpress plugin to post content to it daily and grow it slowly and just like "profits" said,it can yield more $ then if you run all over the place trying to follow trending designs.

There was a tool shared called "interest architect" but it needs to be shared/cracked again.That tool seems to be pretty good at finding interests which you can target on FB.It can find interests on fb pages,movies,books,brands,wikipedia,sites which you can use for targeting.It's likely that if someones has hunting as a hobby,he/she also likes a movie,a book,website about hunting.

Good luck!

1. I definitely am planning on getting into the evergreen niche fan page/blog building. I have one planned thats VERY unique. I definitely dont wanna be up and down I really need this to work for my health and lifestyle
2. I saw Interest Architect and unfortunately wasn't working, but its only 67 so if you really think its worth it i'll buy it. MAX Reps...thanks for answering!

[Reef215]

(02-13-2015 10:21 PM)maniboy Wrote:  Have you considered selling your teeshirts on some other site where it doesnt have to be tipped before if goes to print. Looking at the amount of money which you're paying per design (which I think is pretty high) you might be better off going down the single tee sale route - at least you will claw back some of your expenses rather than lose it all if the design isnt popular. Your targettting is just as important as your design. I've seen some really good designs which are a complete flop and seen some ordinary designs that have tipped.

What I would recommend you do is to set up ALL your designs on one of the sites below and advertise on FB using a bitly or prettylink. Do your split testing and see which one is selling well and then scale it up (on Teespring if you want). The other other option you got is Shopify - not many people are using it but I know a few people that are making a few grand a month with it. If you're intersted in this, let me know and I will point you in the right direction.

Here's a list of some online stores where you can sell individually. There's loads more sites out there but this is a start:
gearlaunch.com
bustedtees.com
sunfrogshirts.com
cafepress.com
zazzle.com
spreadshirt.com
teefury.com
represent.com
viralstyle.com

Hope you make a killing!!! All the best.

1. AND THIS IS THE KEY: "I've seen some really good designs which are a complete flop and seen some ordinary designs that have tipped." We are all intelligent here. There are only SO many combinations for a niche like Crossfit. But i literally watched the same shirt make $10,000 ISD in gross profit for one person and 0.00 for another (me) and one shirt was designed so much better. Thats the thing that perplexes me
2. The guy who actually is making $250,000+ USD per month is doing it through Shopify after doing $100,000+ USD on teespring alone - i think he actually owns a printing company now
3. Thanks for the shirt companies, I know about most of them already and it looks like represent.com maybe the best one!
4. Thanks man for the response and max reps

[zaff]

(02-14-2015 06:07 AM)Reef215 Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 08:03 PM)zaff Wrote:  What you can also do is to start building a fanpage (or a couple) in a evergreen niche.Get a wordpress plugin to post content to it daily and grow it slowly and just like "profits" said,it can yield more $ then if you run all over the place trying to follow trending designs.

There was a tool shared called "interest architect" but it needs to be shared/cracked again.That tool seems to be pretty good at finding interests which you can target on FB.It can find interests on fb pages,movies,books,brands,wikipedia,sites which you can use for targeting.It's likely that if someones has hunting as a hobby,he/she also likes a movie,a book,website about hunting.

Good luck!

1. I definitely am planning on getting into the evergreen niche fan page/blog building. I have one planned thats VERY unique. I definitely dont wanna be up and down I really need this to work for my health and lifestyle
2. I saw Interest Architect and unfortunately wasn't working, but its only 67 so if you really think its worth it i'll buy it. MAX Reps...thanks for answering!

You don't have to buy "interest architect".Apparently there is a software from the same guy called "target generator" and it was already shared here and it does what the "interest architect" version shared and cracked here doesn't because it was updated and the fb app was changed.So you don't have to invest in that.Just find them and check them out.Peace

[quixfix1]

Not always about the design, it about the niche and message you hit them with. If you laser target your market with the right message, it could looks like a real dog but they wont care..

[Reef215]

(02-14-2015 09:11 AM)quixfix1 Wrote:  Not always about the design, it about the niche and message you hit them with. If you laser target your market with the right message, it could looks like a real dog but they wont care..

That's what I should be focusing on. Getting an audience with mediocre shirts from like fiverr?

[Reef215]

(02-14-2015 08:36 AM)zaff Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 06:07 AM)Reef215 Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 08:03 PM)zaff Wrote:  What you can also do is to start building a fanpage (or a couple) in a evergreen niche.Get a wordpress plugin to post content to it daily and grow it slowly and just like "profits" said,it can yield more $ then if you run all over the place trying to follow trending designs.

There was a tool shared called "interest architect" but it needs to be shared/cracked again.That tool seems to be pretty good at finding interests which you can target on FB.It can find interests on fb pages,movies,books,brands,wikipedia,sites which you can use for targeting.It's likely that if someones has hunting as a hobby,he/she also likes a movie,a book,website about hunting.

Good luck!

1. I definitely am planning on getting into the evergreen niche fan page/blog building. I have one planned thats VERY unique. I definitely dont wanna be up and down I really need this to work for my health and lifestyle
2. I saw Interest Architect and unfortunately wasn't working, but its only 67 so if you really think its worth it i'll buy it. MAX Reps...thanks for answering!

You don't have to buy "interest architect".Apparently there is a software from the same guy called "target generator" and it was already shared here and it does what the "interest architect" version shared and cracked here doesn't because it was updated and the fb app was changed.So you don't have to invest in that.Just find them and check them out.Peace

Thanks man, max reps! I did see a discussion on the thread that it was similar but now that I know it's the same I'll just download it. Thanks!

[profits]

(02-14-2015 06:04 AM)Reef215 Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:22 PM)profits Wrote:  

1. If you dont mind me asking are you a full time internet marketer not depending on outside income other than what you make via selling products online?

And i definitely will keep everyone updated. Max Reps!

Glad you have everything covered!

Full time online since 96', full time in apparel since 02'. Have varied investments now but online apparel sales pays for the print shop, payroll and my salary.