Scammer Alert!

[Androxus]

User-VnKorng

THE TALES

It all began on 14-Dec-2017. A friend of mine asked me if I could find him a grammarly account. I posted a "way to buy thread"

In a few hours I receive a message from user VNKONG.


I added him on skype, Here is the conversation.



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>>So basically, he changed the password of the account.
>>says "had important work"
>>my friend texted me 3 in the morning

>>(in the meantime), there was "no important work", this was to sell this account to another user who contacted me later.

Basically, the account has been sold to both of us by now.

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In the skype chat, I didn't know of this yet but the account has been resold.
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He is thinking about if he should refund or not.
Sold account to me, then changed pass, sold it to someone else.
Pretty clear who's fault. rigth?
The removed message was "How he ran offline in mid conversation is quiet disrespectful"

Going Further
Playing the "victim card 101"

I tried to change email without his authorization, let's flashback
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#1) I own the account, I have complete authority to change the email.
#2) Read this 7 Natural Ways To Boost Your Brain Power + Sharpen Your Mind

Rest of the conversation not much related to this. We didn't had any kind of trade after that so it's pointless to this matter. I can post it if it's required but it's mostly just calling each other out. (rude talks and everything)

[dweeber]

Thank you Androxus for sharing your experience here with that person. BBHF admin please review this thread and decide whether that user MUST be banned from the forum.

[critique]

Why the hell admins don't take this scam matter seriously? I thought is a community and this type of stuff is not permited.

[Ryan Tan]

Hello,

First of all, "Androxus" is hiding a lot of the conversation, funny enough, he didn't even add the screenshot of the many treats that he made.

I would like to mention that "Androxus" always had access to the Grammarly account, until he one-sidedly decided to open a resolution case on PayPal, after that I decided to change the password of the Grammarly account and not give him the new password back and here he is crying because he no longer have access to the Grammarly account.

The deal was that he would have access to the lifetime grammarly account for 25$, but he decided to change the password, it was not until that i needed to use the account for my resume that i have seen that he changed it, so i changed the password back to what it originally was and notified him on skype and gave him the password, as you can see in the screenshot.


I would like to reiterate that "Androxus" is lying about not having access to the account at the time, the password was still the same than it originally was before he changed it and in the screenshot that he attached, you can even see that he was notified on skype with the password.

I should have been the one to make this thread and call him a scammer since he's the one who charged back on PayPal while having total access to the Grammarly account.

If the "man" wanted a refund, we could have resolved the issue on Skype, but he decided to threaten and do a tantrum and open a resolution case.

Anyways, since he escalated the resolution case on PayPal, it's now up to them to decide.

TDLR: "Androxus" always had full access to the Grammarly account, it was not until he unilaterally decided to open a resolution case on PayPal and change the password of the account, that I decided to restrict his access to the account.

[Ryan Tan]

Also here is a screenshot of him threatening to chargeback and add me to the sh*t list if I do not do what he want. (I would also like to mention that at the time of when the threat has been made, he had already opened a resolution case on PayPal)

https://imgur.com/a/AjbpZ

The sad thing is that this guy also told me to contact one of his friend to sell, but after the trade has been done with his friend; he told his friend to charge back, and as you can see in the screenshot when I confronted him about it, he even said "Dude. I told him to do it" (In reference to the paypal Charge Back)

And because of that, i had to deal with the paypal chargeback (one from him and one from his friend).

https://imgur.com/a/e3NmF

And this guy has the nerve to accuse me of scamming me while at the same time plotting to scam me with his double account/friend.

As you can see in this screenshot, he even apologized for his behavior in the hope to get the refund but it was too late since he already did the mischief and i had to deal with the paypal chargeback.

https://imgur.com/a/AlA0G

You just can't go around threatening people and opening resolution case here and here, but at the end expecting a refund, that's common sense.

Anyways, it's up to PayPal to decide if you will get a refund or not, since you one-sidedly opened a resolution case.

TLDR: This guy plotted to scam me with his friend/double account, after confronting him about it, he said that it was true and that he told his friend to chargeback, after that he began to threaten me and here he is trying to tarnish my reputation and get me banned.

This guy got some nerve to call me a scammer after trying to scam me but i will fight tooth and nail his despicable lie.

I am now waiting for more lie to come out of his mouth. Bring it On, by the way, remove my personal email and password from the screenshot, you idiot!

[kirstie]

(12-21-2017 04:22 PM)VnKorng Wrote:  TLDR: This guy plotted to scam me with his friend/double account, after confronting him about it, he said that he told his friend to chargeback, and here he is trying to tarnish my reputation, this guy got some nerve.

Well, it does look like Androxus should be immediately banned from BBHF - buying stuff and then putting im a Paypal charge-back should not be tolerated from such scammers.

I'll pass it up the line so Androxus may receive his ban gift before Christmas ;)

[Androxus]

Hey M.R. scammer,
I had access to the account?
~You changed password of my account.
That simple thing does classify you as a scammer.
The 2nd person you sold the same account to charged back. Because you fu!king sold it to 2 people. It's a freaking scam. How is this complex? just 1 line to explain. All the other "images" you shared. I am still wondering what do they prove?

I am not going to spend time explaining myself, this is just to aware other people to be careful while trading around.


"TLDR: This guy plotted to scam me with his friend/double account, after confronting him about it, he said that it was true and that he told his friend to chargeback, after that he began to threaten me and here he is trying to tarnish my reputation and get me banned."

You are good at defending yourself. Unfortunately I cannot put more time dealing with you. You can keep the 25 bucks and buy yourself some Christmas Candies.

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TIPS.

Never buy stuff unless you can get full access for the product. (In this case of grammalry account It would be email account/ or ability to change email)
Here, I contacted support to get the email changed but unfortunately it wasn't possible. So I let the account stay on the seller's email. After few hours, he changed password of the account. He did send me access to the account but "he wasn't supposed to change the password, He shouldn't even try to access my account"
For this I asked for a refund. So, I could find another person willing to sell an account with email access But this caused all this trouble.

Have a nice day :)

[Androxus]

(12-20-2017 10:39 PM)rgbiz Wrote:  Thank you Androxus for sharing your experience here with that person. BBHF admin please review this thread and decide whether that user MUST be banned from the forum.

I don't think he needs to be banned but a warning is necessary. So, he realizes doing wrong has consequences.

[Ryan Tan]

Androxus, as I said earlier, you are welcome to share your side of the story as I did, but I will not stand by while you are trying to tarnish my reputation with your lie.

"You changed password of my account."

It was not until you opened a resolution case on PayPal that the password of the account was permanently changed, Until that point you always had access to the account.

"Here, I contacted support to get the email changed, but unfortunately it wasn't possible. So I let the account stay on the seller's email. After few hours, he changed password of the account. He did send me access to the account but "he wasn't supposed to change the password, He shouldn't even try to access my account."
For this, I asked for a refund. So, I could find another person willing to sell an account with email access, But this caused all this trouble."

What you are saying is once again lie with nothing to back it up, but it kind of proves my point, that you always had access to the account, so if you always had access to the account, when did I scam you?

Here is the thing, you can't even prove that I scammed you, since I never scammed you, it was not until you unilaterally opened a resolution case on PayPal that I restricted your access to the account.

[Androxus]

I filed a chargeback after VnKorng refused to take back his account and refund me the money. He does not have an option to think after he changes the password of my account and invading the privacy.

As simple as that. I wouldn't have cared about 25 bucks anyways, but he went offline leaving a mid-conversation; saying he would change the password of the account if I file a PayPal dispute.

He had account his email, all this time there was no way he was going to lose something. I was the one in disadvantage, after sending him money, he exploits the fact his email was connected to account. Ultimately, He has both the money and account. (Yeah, that did trigger me enough to put a dispute and add this to shitlist, he just wasn't interested in sorting the issue. He could have easily avoided the "chargeback.")

How is this so complex to understand? I don't expect anyone to read the whole conversation I showed above but don't go on typing in so against when you don't understand what happened here.

Really good book. You should read this

(12-21-2017 11:22 PM)kirstie Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 04:22 PM)VnKorng Wrote:  TLDR: This guy plotted to scam me with his friend/double account, after confronting him about it, he said that he told his friend to chargeback, and here he is trying to tarnish my reputation, this guy got some nerve.

[size=x-large]Well, it does look like Androxus should be immediately banned from BBHF - buying stuff and then putting im a Paypal charge-back should not be tolerated from such scammers.

I'll pass it up the line so Androxus may receive his ban gift before Christmas ;)