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12-11-2017, 01:47 PM
Post: #51
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
[quote='fouadfo2sh' pid='2294230' dateline='1512928675']
hey jack390941
thanks for your valuable contribution, manager had been added to the report list and a warning message was sent, some good news too, you had been added to the BBHF Udemy Forum Champions List on the thread for top people who report spammers on udemy section (not on any other sections), so people can rep you, and I gave you max rep ;) , the same happened for jamputto member too.
[/quote]

Wow, appreciate the recognition mate! :)
I shall return the favor and add max reps when I'm able to again ^_^
12-11-2017, 02:26 PM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2017 02:14 PM by bs00001.)
Post: #52
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
All highly-productive sharers and contributors is doing the same too...

alekxis88
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-The-world-of-infographics-2017
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-T-shirt-Design-in-Canva-for-Non-Designers
...

Rasur
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-SEO-Mastery-Drive-Traffic-Sales-Effortlessly
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Simple-Forex-Trading-Course-for-Beginners
...

capitalh
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Learn-to-Create-Awesome-Ebooks-From-Scratch
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Sell-Your-Expertise-by-AI-Chatbot-Basic-Concepts
...

Extraño
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Typing-Mastery-Learn-to-Type
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Microsoft-Project-2016-Advanced-Training-Master-Class
...

Aesop
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-The-Complete-Video-Editing-Course-With-Wondershare-Filmora
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-Master-QuickBooks-Pro-2016-2017-the-Easy-Way-15-5-hours
...

In real fact, Most udemy free courses become PAID later!! and then NEVER have free coupons provided later, so we just have ONLY ONE chance to have those great courses for free!

But we sharers cannot predict which free courses will become paid.
We sharers are not the course creators, so we cannot control this from happening.



In fact this FredB just want us ALL the SHARERS disappear completely and suddenly in this forum!!
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This FredB harasses and bullies towards me countless times with no solid evidence!


Moreover he has no real long-time contribution in this section.

http://bestblackhatforum.com/search.php?action=results&sid=efeeb23ff614dbaef7b240770e9f80d2&sortby=lastpost&order=desc

Only 2 pages from fredB in this "Udemy 100% FREE for LIMITED TIME" section, with DUPLICATE THREADs from him included!! such as these ONLY from him (Also did violate our rules):

[F4LT] Enjoy Adobe Photoshop and Final Cut Pro: The Basics | $20 >>100% off
http://bestblackhatforum.com/showthread.php?&tid=265018&pid=1668932#pid1668932

[F4LT] Microsoft Office Time-Saving Techniques | $20 >> 100% off
http://bestblackhatforum.com/showthread.php?&tid=265722&pid=1674179#pid1674179



This FredB don't like me to reply this in public that he broke our rules so he's angry with me!!!

What he did now is so annoying that brings us worse drama again and again...in this constructional thread several times without stop, let alone in other threads!!

______________________________________________________
The real motive of FredB:

1. just take advantage of this thread and reply with uneducated bully and haressment towards me several times, making this thread polluted by him only.

2. just want us ALL the SHARERS disappear completely and suddenly in this forum!!
______________________________________________________

For such annoying member like an old gossip woman, even I'm a well-educated man and I forgive him several times...


But now We should confirm that FredB is creating many SPAMMER REPLIES with no positive nor constructional idea at all!! Everything he replied has a motive just to kick me out.


Now all members if u don't want this FredB to pollute our forum and want to kick him out of this constructional thread at all, pls REPORT HIM to MODs and BAN HIM ASAP!!

all members Pls reply if u support us (the sharers) and don't like this FredB nor agree with what he did towards me such as these uneducated and SOLD BULLY and harassment manner, pls also REPORT HIM to MODs and BAN HIM ASAP!!


FredB u really deserve this treatment!
All Threads created by me... U can still discover MANY VALID COUPONS and useful stuffs in here!! CHECK IT OUT!!
http://bestblackhatforum.com/search.php?...uid=274142
12-15-2017, 07:38 AM (This post was last modified: 12-15-2017 07:46 AM by fjohnson59.)
Post: #53
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
I'm glad I found this thread because, as a BBHF member for over 5 years, I have never knowingly spammed a thread. In fact, it's been quite the contrary. However, I received a very rude, condescending, and offensive PM from (((fouadfo2sh))) threatening to BAN me if I BUMP more than 1 Udemy thread a week.

After reeling from the shock and hostile tone of this PM, I proceeded to inquire into who this person was who is insulting me and accusing me of this heinous act. He sounds like a cyber-bully or some sort of cyber-terrorist on the loose, or a spammer or troll. Does BBHF condone this type of behavior?

I hope BBHF is not giving folks the green light, under the auspices that they are acting as its agent, to threaten, intimidate, offend and bully members. The PMs I received from this guy were distasteful, unprofessional, and rude.

As a supportive member of this community, I always thank, via comment or via +5 reps, any OP who shares a product, does a review, or shares valuable information. I am not a spammer nor a leech.

When it comes to the Udemy section, which I love, I always give +5 reps to anyone sharing a fresh coupon code and I always make a wholehearted effort to immediately take the course and leave an unbiased comment upon completing the course.

I understand the need to control things in the Udemy section, especially for those who post coupon codes for their classes. However, does a comment "Thanking the OP" two or three days later, get the same infraction as a comment "Bumping" the same thread on that same day? Let's not rush to judgment without looking at the whole picture.

When I "bump" a thread, it acts as a quick reference for me (thread subscription) to check that thread at a later date (via my User CP). By doing so, I can easily check to see if a fresh coupon code has been shared for that course without me having to wade through all of the courses, line-by-line, in the Udemy Section. It's a time-management issue for me, not an act of spamming.

So, I apologize for any infraction on my part.

For the record, I am NOT a spammer. I truly take offense to two PMs I received within the last 24 hours from ((fouadfo2sh))) accusing me of being one. His PMs were rude, offensive and threatening. How can you enforce a rule that has not even been implemented yet? Why are you threatening to BAN members who have not been made aware of their actions that you deem to be in violation?

As I stated to (((fouadfo2sh))) in my last PM reply, I think a quick resolution to this issue would be to always have the newest threads appear first in the results, not the thread with the most recent comment. By programming the threads to appear in chronological order based on the date they were created, it would always have the newest threads on top or first on the list. Any comments posted on that thread would then be irrelevant and no more time and hostility displayed on the threads or on the forum regarding this matter. ISSUE SOLVED!

BBHF needs to be more discerning as to who they allow to represent the forum and "enforce" the rules. In my opinion, only a MOD should contact a member (VIP at that), with a threat of banning them for an infraction. Not some sour, lowly member with his panties in a wad, with nothing of substance behind his name.
12-15-2017, 10:29 AM
Post: #54
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
fjohnson59 at last the truth thx sooo much fjohnson59
12-16-2017, 02:53 AM
Post: #55
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
I just want to report this member for few bumps asking for coupon

Member - amaze
http://bestblackhatforum.com/User-amaze

Posts
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-High-Availability-Setup-with-Heartbeat-and-Floating-IP?pid=2298377#pid2298377
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-Practical-Nginx-The-Zero-to-Hero-Guide?pid=2298473#pid2298473
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-Nginx-Beginner-to-Advanced?pid=2298479#pid2298479
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-FREE-High-Availability-for-the-LAMP-Stack-100-off-99-FREE?pid=2298371#pid2298371

Thanks,
Cg
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12-16-2017, 06:42 AM
Post: #56
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
Thanks cdcd, I've sent him a warning message, his name had been added to today spammers list, and you have got max rep + added your name to the Udemy 100% free coupon forum Champions list ;)

[quote='cgcg' pid='2298974' dateline='1513356796']
I just want to report this member for few bumps asking for coupon

Member - amaze
http://bestblackhatforum.com/User-amaze

Posts
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-F4LT-High-Availability-Setup-with-Heartbeat-and-Floating-IP?pid=2298377#pid2298377
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-Practical-Nginx-The-Zero-to-Hero-Guide?pid=2298473#pid2298473
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-Nginx-Beginner-to-Advanced?pid=2298479#pid2298479
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-FREE-High-Availability-for-the-LAMP-Stack-100-off-99-FREE?pid=2298371#pid2298371

Thanks,
Cg
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12-16-2017, 07:06 AM (This post was last modified: 12-16-2017 02:23 PM by fouadfo2sh.)
Post: #57
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
Dear fjohnson59
it's a normal thing for us to face some comments or complaints about this thread, but what make us keep going strong when those comments come from spammers who had been reported by the BBHF members, and while we are here manages pinned threads and cleaning the forum out of spammers, and number of members who volunteers in reporting spammers keep growing, you're just setting there bumping old threads spamming the shit out of the forum.

and through your long post full of insults on me on this thread, you said I insult you on the warning message I sent to you
and you are a 100% liar, just like 100% spammer
here's a screenshot of the warning message I sent you (spot the insulting)
https://pasteboard.co/GYn9h7h.png

and here's a screenshot for your reply (rude reply) on my warning message with all your insulting highlighted:
https://pasteboard.co/GYn9Ibv.png

are you a spammer or not, here's the evidence, screenshot from your last 10 posts, 10 bumping posts asking for 10 new coupons on d*** 10 udemy threads in less than 24 hours, you screwed the first page on udemy forum:
https://pasteboard.co/GYn7HOd.png

and who am I, a spammer or who the heck am I, here's the answer:

I got the approval of the Official BBHF admin for activating, pinning the new thread, and for me to be responsible for reporting, make lists of those spammers
check this photo:
https://pasteboard.co/GYn93U1.png

and I got their support too for reporting those spammers too, anytime if there's new spammers:
Check this photo too:
https://pasteboard.co/GYn9lQk.png

what makes me wonder is that, after you sent me a message saying you apologize for your spamming behaviour and rude reply to the first message, you came here trying to play another game, and accuse me to being impolite, insulting you, thinking that I will not reply back with these screenshots proving that in addition to being spammer, you're a big prof liar.

Note: I'm not the one who's responsible for giving ban for anyone, I'm the one who's responsible for reporting spammers (with all possible evidence they're spammers either their last posts url or screenshots from their last posts), and the admins will get anyone reported ban.

that's the rule, you don't follow the rule just don't blame anyone, it's clearly written on the heading of the udemy section that bumping old threads = 7 days ban then IP ban, you don't follow the rules thinking you're in safe and will not pay the price and that it will goes like this forever with no ban for spammers is your problem ... not ours :) [we succeeded on eliminating 80% of spams on Udemy section since the date of creation of this thread]

I think I will not reply again to your useless posts about me, you're wasting my time, and I need it to work with other community members to spot, keep an eye on spammers, specially the ones placed in the "last chance list", just like you :)

Regards,
fouadfo2sh
12-16-2017, 04:02 PM
Post: #58
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
(((fouadfo2sh))) you're a LOSER! Please don't try to play these games with me. So you can take your childish comments and all your stupid banter and shove it because you are a liar and the truth ain't in ya... I couldn't care less about who gave you what authority. You're overstepping your bounds and making a mockery out of BBHF.

I would like for you to STOP SPAMMING MY INBOX!

You want to be a bully but you don't intimidate me, as you can see. Now you're mad. Everyone can see that you are a nobody who wants to feel important... but you're a LOSER!!!!

For the record, here are the PMs you sent me and I sent you. Anybody with a brain can see that you were out of line:

12-13-2017, 06:41 PM
fouadfo2sh Offline
Super Active BBHF Member
*****

Posts: 5,294
Joined: Apr 2014

Reputation: 1999
ONE MORE SPAM POST = IP BAN
To: fjohnson59

you had been spotted by one of BBHF members for being a spammer and bumping Udemy old threads asking for coupons.
STOP BUMPING OLD THREADS!, if any member got a new coupon he will post it instantly, by bumping old threads you move the new threads with working coupons to 2nd or 3rd or more pages, Your profile had been reported on our main pinned thread by one of the members, so we warn you, that's the last time. you had a maximum of 1 bump per week, you pass this limit you're ban, not just your account but an IP ban!
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12-13-2017, 08:11 PM
fjohnson59 Online
Super Active BBHF Member
*****

Posts: 6,105
Joined: Jul 2012

Reputation: 462

Re: ONE MORE SPAM POST = IP BAN
To: fouadfo2sh
[quote='fouadfo2sh']
you had been spotted by one of BBHF members for being a spammer and bumping Udemy old threads asking for coupons.
STOP BUMPING OLD THREADS!, if any member got a new coupon he will post it instantly, by bumping old threads you move the new threads with working coupons to 2nd or 3rd or more pages, Your profile had been reported on our main pinned thread by one of the members, so we warn you, that's the last time. you had a maximum of 1 bump per week, you pass this limit you're ban, not just your account but an IP ban!
[/quote]

SPAMMER????? BUMPING OLD THREADS????

Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?!? Who the heck are you?? Never seen your avatar before.

As far as bumping 'old' threads, the only way I would have bumped an old thread is if it had ALREADY BEEN BUMPED that day and caught my attention. As for the old Udemy threads, please specify what an "old thread" is, in terms of the age. It was also my understanding that fresh coupons would be shared on the original thread. Otherwise, I've seen countless OPs and members get their panties in a wad because someone started a new thread and did not post in the original thread.

This is the first time I have ever been warned or admonished on ANY forum, so I am taken aback by this notice. I have never exhibit any malice or disregard for any forum rules and I am puzzled by your accusations.

In addition, I am not even sure you are who you claim to be... a mod or someone with authority to impose bans. You can very well be a spammer or troll.

Please give me a few examples of my infractions because I am not aware of any. Or, have an official mod contact me so support your claim.

Thank you.

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Yesterday, 03:04 PM
fouadfo2sh Offline
Super Active BBHF Member
*****

Posts: 5,294
Joined: Apr 2014

Reputation: 1999
Re: ONE MORE SPAM POST = IP BAN
To: fjohnson59
[quote='fjohnson59']
[quote='fouadfo2sh']
watch your language and don't be rude to to others, you disrespect me, insulting me and other members of the BBHF community, 2 thousands reps, 5 Badges, and almost 4 years of BBHF membership wouldn't help someone just like you who never read the forum rules to know "who the heck is me".

the Rule was already set months ago but it wasn't activated, we left spammers (just like you) bump old threads, and wanna know what the heck is old thread too ?
it's the thread that got a soldout coupon, and still some newbies thinking that the thread creator or the coupon poster is the d*** instructor, so they ask for a coupon in a spammy way on the post thinking that the thread creator would invent a new coupon from nothing, those newbies don't even know that anyone got a new coupon will post it instantly, without even someone had to ask them for.

if you're not a newbie (and I think you're not) this makes you know for sure that a new useless comment on an old thread with soldout coupon would push this thread forward to the first page, taking the place of new threads with fresh coupons, forcing them to move backward to the second, third, etc pages.

back to the question, who the heck is me:

I'm the one with the newest pinned vip thread on Udemy section (sure you didn't notice cause you're there for spam only) check this photo:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=sibsx8g4m5oh&kk=250816993

this is the official thread for reporting spammers bumping old threads asking for coupons, we send them one warning message, if they apologize, we give them another chance (you didn't apologize you did the opposite), a poll was created and 96% of the members agreed on the new thread to activating the new anti-spam thread.
check this photo:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=nnoofxhqosmb&kk=1739866253

I got the approval of the Official BBHF admin for activating, pinning the new thread, and for me to be responsible for reporting, make lists of those spammers
check this photo:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=00f7m271t2cp&kk=3269328620

and I got their support too for reporting those spammers too, anytime if there's new spammers:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=owxxp21ntru4&kk=3717549879

and this is the proof that you're a spammer, 9+ threads bumping in less than 30 hours:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=0kazug89eclu&kk=582684304

I will not be rude and I will be polite enough, do you promise to not spam the BBHF Udemy threads every again ? ... if you do we will give you one and last chance by placing you in the "last chance" list, and you will be watched, any new spam you will get reported, ban without even being told.

NO Regards,
fouadfo2sh


[/quote]

As I said in my previous reply that there was never any intention on my part to bump threads in a spammy way. I must admit that I have not read the forum rules in quite some time regarding the Udemy section and how it differs from the other BBHF sections... I was on autopilot.

I would advise you to also watch your language and not insult me. I have never insulted any member of the BBHF and will not tolerate you and anyone else to insult me. As far as who you are, I'm not impressed.

When was this poll and these new rules created. Who is 96% of the members? From what group or sub-group are they made of? Surely, they are not 96% of the BBHF members, nor 96% of the members who download or post in the Udemy section. Please clarify that number, if you're able. In regards to these new rule, have they been formally implemented across the board and formally announced on BBHF or in the Udemy section? The proper way to enforce a rule is to first announce it and post it as a "new, updated forum rule" before penalizing alleged offenders.

To you and the gods that be, the way to avoid having issues like this in the Udemy section (and all sections) and prevent all of this mindless bickering back and forth about commenting on "old" threads is to just fix the system so that it will always put the most recent thread first. The old threads, no matter how many recent comments, will always be appropriately chronologically paginated to fall below all fresh, new threads.

Now, let's get back to my question in regards to what is considered an "old" thread??? Defining an old thread in the rules may also help eliminate a lot these "spammy" postings. You failed to answer that question in your reply.

In regards to promising to not spam, I do apologize if my recent actions were of a spammy nature by your definition. I welcome any new rules or upgrades that will make BBHF a better place for ALL members.

[/quote]

Thanks for reply, your name had moved from the "to be reported" list, to the "last chance" list, the rule was added by the mods months ago not by me, the voting was done by me to see the percentage of people who disagree with the idea.

have a good day (and I didn't insult you btw)
Regards,

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Yesterday, 02:38 PM
fjohnson59 Online
Super Active BBHF Member
*****

Posts: 6,105
Joined: Jul 2012

Reputation: 462
Re: ONE MORE SPAM POST = IP BAN
To: fouadfo2sh
[quote='fouadfo2sh']
watch your language and don't be rude to to others, you disrespect me, insulting me and other members of the BBHF community, 2 thousands reps, 5 Badges, and almost 4 years of BBHF membership wouldn't help someone just like you who never read the forum rules to know "who the heck is me".

the Rule was already set months ago but it wasn't activated, we left spammers (just like you) bump old threads, and wanna know what the heck is old thread too ?
it's the thread that got a soldout coupon, and still some newbies thinking that the thread creator or the coupon poster is the d*** instructor, so they ask for a coupon in a spammy way on the post thinking that the thread creator would invent a new coupon from nothing, those newbies don't even know that anyone got a new coupon will post it instantly, without even someone had to ask them for.

if you're not a newbie (and I think you're not) this makes you know for sure that a new useless comment on an old thread with soldout coupon would push this thread forward to the first page, taking the place of new threads with fresh coupons, forcing them to move backward to the second, third, etc pages.

back to the question, who the heck is me:

I'm the one with the newest pinned vip thread on Udemy section (sure you didn't notice cause you're there for spam only) check this photo:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=sibsx8g4m5oh&kk=250816993

this is the official thread for reporting spammers bumping old threads asking for coupons, we send them one warning message, if they apologize, we give them another chance (you didn't apologize you did the opposite), a poll was created and 96% of the members agreed on the new thread to activating the new anti-spam thread.
check this photo:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=nnoofxhqosmb&kk=1739866253

I got the approval of the Official BBHF admin for activating, pinning the new thread, and for me to be responsible for reporting, make lists of those spammers
check this photo:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=00f7m271t2cp&kk=3269328620

and I got their support too for reporting those spammers too, anytime if there's new spammers:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=owxxp21ntru4&kk=3717549879

and this is the proof that you're a spammer, 9+ threads bumping in less than 30 hours:
http://www.imageno.com/image.php?id=0kazug89eclu&kk=582684304

I will not be rude and I will be polite enough, do you promise to not spam the BBHF Udemy threads every again ? ... if you do we will give you one and last chance by placing you in the "last chance" list, and you will be watched, any new spam you will get reported, ban without even being told.

NO Regards,
fouadfo2sh


[/quote]

As I said in my previous reply that there was never any intention on my part to bump threads in a spammy way. I must admit that I have not read the forum rules in quite some time regarding the Udemy section and how it differs from the other BBHF sections... I was on autopilot.

I would advise you to also watch your language and not insult me. I have never insulted any member of the BBHF and will not tolerate you and anyone else to insult me. As far as who you are, I'm not impressed.

When was this poll and these new rules created. Who is 96% of the members? From what group or sub-group are they made of? Surely, they are not 96% of the BBHF members, nor 96% of the members who download or post in the Udemy section. Please clarify that number, if you're able. In regards to these new rule, have they been formally implemented across the board and formally announced on BBHF or in the Udemy section? The proper way to enforce a rule is to first announce it and post it as a "new, updated forum rule" before penalizing alleged offenders.

To you and the gods that be, the way to avoid having issues like this in the Udemy section (and all sections) and prevent all of this mindless bickering back and forth about commenting on "old" threads is to just fix the system so that it will always put the most recent thread first. The old threads, no matter how many recent comments, will always be appropriately chronologically paginated to fall below all fresh, new threads.

Now, let's get back to my question in regards to what is considered an "old" thread??? Defining an old thread in the rules may also help eliminate a lot these "spammy" postings. You failed to answer that question in your reply.

In regards to promising to not spam, I do apologize if my recent actions were of a spammy nature by your definition. I welcome any new rules or upgrades that will make BBHF a better place for ALL members.

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I replied to your post about me
Today, 03:16 PM
fouadfo2sh Offline
Super Active BBHF Member
*****

Posts: 5,294
Joined: Apr 2014

Reputation: 1999
I replied to your post about me
To: fjohnson59
I replied to your post about me, you will like the reply, enjoy it :) xD

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(((fouadfo2sh))),

For the record, if you were so concerned about folks "bumping" threads in the Udemy section, then you would be calling out and penalizing those who "bump" the thread with comments "thanking" the OP. Aren't those comments bumping the thread? You can't have it both ways. Anyone who comments on an Udemy thread at any time is "bumping" it. So if you're going to implement rules or enforce them, be clear and fair about it. You can't arbitrarily take action against some and not the others, no matter what you may personally feel.

Fred
12-16-2017, 04:13 PM (This post was last modified: 12-16-2017 04:21 PM by fouadfo2sh.)
Post: #59
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
fjohnson59,
oh baby :O ... I got you mad :O, sorry xD
reading the last 3 lines only of your last useless reply to this thread, to discover that you can't differentiate between a "thanks" comment which is on a thread with active coupon, and a "please new coupon I beg you" on a thread with soldout coupon, not sure how you're a 5 years old members, that's 5 years of pure spamming or what :DD
baby I'm not mod or admin here to implement rules, I'm a member who's applying and following them, those rules are the only reasons why udemy section still here, why the whole BBHF still here after all those years, just in case, pray that one day I'm not gonna be a mod or an admin :DDD
12-16-2017, 04:40 PM (This post was last modified: 12-16-2017 05:16 PM by fjohnson59.)
Post: #60
RE: REPORT SPAMMERS HERE - THE ULTIMATE THREAD
D-U-M-B loser!!!!!! 30yawn
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