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02-10-2014, 01:03 AM
Post: #1
Need advice from smtp expert over reply-to's, spf + dkim (I'll pay you for a solution!)
Before I ask my question, if anyone can answer this and give me the solution I'll happily PayPal you $50 for doing so...

I have been mailing out (can spam complaint) to non opt-in emails for about a year now with no problems, I'll explain my setup below. Recently the domain I used to mail out has been suspended for spam complaints. The issue now is my reply to address. The old reply to address inboxed fine, even to gmail but now with my new domain used as the reply to it goes straight to spam. I have a feeling it may be to do with spf?. Here's my setup:

I bought a domain about a year ago from godaddy, let's call it domain1.com. I then hosted the domain and website at hostgator.

I then bought seperately, hosting from godaddy to be able to use their smtp replays to send out the mails using an smtp mailer (atomic mailer). I link a domain to this hosting (a completely seperate domain name used solely for this purpose, lets call it godaddysmtprelays.com

In Atomic I set my smtp relays to be godaddysmtprelays.com. I have 100 godaddysmtprelays.com accounts, each allowed to send 250 mails per day (total 25,000 daily). I set the 'reply-to' address as domain1.com which gives me the ability to answer any replys which come back from the original send. Because domain1.com is hosted at hostgator, it uses hostgators smtp to mail back the replys obviously.

Now the problem...

So because domain1.com is now suspended, I cannot use it to receive any of the replys I get and mail back out my own reply. I am forced to buy another domain and replace my reply to address from domain1.com to newdomain.com.

When I set this newdomain.com as my reply-to in Atomic, when i send out to any gmail account, no matter what the message content, it goes straight into gmails spam box. I simply send a test email with a subject 'testing' and message 'this is a test'. It has no spam related content, but goes directly into gmails spam box.

On my old domain, this got through completely fine. What the hell is going on?. It's also worth nothing that at the same time I bought domain1.com I also bought another domain which hasn't been doing too much. If I use this other domain as the reply to, it works fine!?, they land in inbox. This domain is also hosted with hostgator.

I am using this domain for my reply-to as a replacement for the time being but I guess it's only a matter of time before it may end up suspended.

I need to be able to purchase new domains and use them as a reply to in the emails which I send out with atomic, using godaddys smtp relays.

I'm no expert, certainly not with dkim/spf etc but have a feeling the solution lies there. If someone can help me out, provide me with a solution/answer which works I genuinely will send over $50. Or, maybe take a look at my setup through teamviewer.

It just makes no sense to me that two older domains used as a reply to get through spam filters fine. Any other domain or new ones which I buy will go straight to spam.

Looking forward to the knowledgable experts answers ;) (and to send them my money)
02-10-2014, 03:32 AM
Post: #2
RE:
hahahahhahahahahahah seriousl? dude this is spam, how there are reports for spam if your emails are can spam complaint? second you use atomic mail and that lead me to believe that you find your emails with scraper right?
so this guys they aren't actually sign up to receive your email even if you give them free stuff or advises right?
further more did you actually scrub your list? did you use different ip. you might have 100 email but how can a person send from the same ip 100 emails(1 from each account) from 100 different email? that means in their eyes that you use some software, (so you need o rotate the email,ratate the ip i would say 15-100 ip, scrub your list, the really cool way is to purchase a list from a guy that have set it up when someone opt ins he must agree that he will receive email from 3rd party advertisers you are the 3rd party),

you must also set up to send the emails with delay, if in the past as you claim you have no inbox problems (witch is not true at all) with 25.000 emails a day even if 0.001% go into your list thats 250 people a day! 250x365=91,250 people into your autoresponder (so you understand the magnitude of your lie about inboxing).

there are some words that activates the spam filters and there are some other words secondary that also activates the spam filters, the aol has a different spam filters from g mail and yahoo.

i won't lie to you mailing is an ART especially to inbox in people that you don't give you the permission...

common mistake from newbies and advance marketers, did you send any link in the first email? your offer? a squeeze page? then you do a big mistake 40% by doing that you will hit the spam.....
think it for a little you send fast emails with links in people that haven't give you the permission to send them information.... make sense?


rep me

and btway where is my money? lollllllllllllllllllllllllll
02-10-2014, 04:50 AM
Post: #3
RE:
Hi,

When did I say this wasn't spam? I just said my emails are kept can spam compliant. The only part which is dodgy is yes, they are scraped emails targeted pretty good.

The emails are scrubbed against a spam trap list and each email is checked to see if the domain used is still alive, so they are partially scrubbed, yes. What has any of what you said got to do with the problem I'm having? absolutely nothing.

Yes I do use different IP's, yes the smtp's are rotated and only a few sent from each, but again this has nothing to do with an issue which is changing the reply to address from one domain to another.

As I have said I have been using the setup for about a year without problems. Am I claiming a 100% inbox rate? absolutely not but gmail do get inboxed and do not go into spam. My setup isn't very sophisticated, I'm basically mailing out blind with no delivery reports but I can tell you from send of 25,000 daily (10,000 will be dead emails). I will typically get 100-150 replies from people interested. I make on average $500-$1000 every day from my very basic setup.

You have not answered my main question or been of much help so why would I send you $50.

I realize there are better setups that what I have, I have even tried a few from some smtp experts from blackhat forums. Guess what, with all their fancy talk with dkims, rotation and interspire I barely got 10 replies to my emails compared with my basic setup for over 100 replies every day like clockwork.

If anyone can answer the simple question as to why when using a different reply to address from my old domain causes the mails to hit spam, I'd appreciate it. I do not need advice on setting up squeeze pages, links, or where to buy a F****** list from.

Thanks.
02-10-2014, 05:39 AM
Post: #4
RE: Need advice from smtp expert over reply-to's, spf + dkim (I'll pay you for a solut...
(02-10-2014 01:03 AM)chewzlife101 Wrote:  Before I ask my question, if anyone can answer this and give me the solution I'll happily PayPal you $50 for doing so...

I have been mailing out (can spam complaint) to non opt-in emails for about a year now with no problems, I'll explain my setup below. Recently the domain I used to mail out has been suspended for spam complaints. The issue now is my reply to address. The old reply to address inboxed fine, even to gmail but now with my new domain used as the reply to it goes straight to spam. I have a feeling it may be to do with spf?. Here's my setup:

I bought a domain about a year ago from godaddy, let's call it domain1.com. I then hosted the domain and website at hostgator.

I then bought seperately, hosting from godaddy to be able to use their smtp replays to send out the mails using an smtp mailer (atomic mailer). I link a domain to this hosting (a completely seperate domain name used solely for this purpose, lets call it godaddysmtprelays.com

In Atomic I set my smtp relays to be godaddysmtprelays.com. I have 100 godaddysmtprelays.com accounts, each allowed to send 250 mails per day (total 25,000 daily). I set the 'reply-to' address as domain1.com which gives me the ability to answer any replys which come back from the original send. Because domain1.com is hosted at hostgator, it uses hostgators smtp to mail back the replys obviously.

Now the problem...

So because domain1.com is now suspended, I cannot use it to receive any of the replys I get and mail back out my own reply. I am forced to buy another domain and replace my reply to address from domain1.com to newdomain.com.

When I set this newdomain.com as my reply-to in Atomic, when i send out to any gmail account, no matter what the message content, it goes straight into gmails spam box. I simply send a test email with a subject 'testing' and message 'this is a test'. It has no spam related content, but goes directly into gmails spam box.

On my old domain, this got through completely fine. What the hell is going on?. It's also worth nothing that at the same time I bought domain1.com I also bought another domain which hasn't been doing too much. If I use this other domain as the reply to, it works fine!?, they land in inbox. This domain is also hosted with hostgator.

I am using this domain for my reply-to as a replacement for the time being but I guess it's only a matter of time before it may end up suspended.

I need to be able to purchase new domains and use them as a reply to in the emails which I send out with atomic, using godaddys smtp relays.

I'm no expert, certainly not with dkim/spf etc but have a feeling the solution lies there. If someone can help me out, provide me with a solution/answer which works I genuinely will send over $50. Or, maybe take a look at my setup through teamviewer.

It just makes no sense to me that two older domains used as a reply to get through spam filters fine. Any other domain or new ones which I buy will go straight to spam.

Looking forward to the knowledgable experts answers ;) (and to send them my money)
PM me with your domain i'll fix it and i already fix this problem before for my domain Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
02-10-2014, 07:03 AM
Post: #5
RE: Need advice from smtp expert over reply-to's, spf + dkim (I'll pay you for a solut...
dude i was explain how the email marketing works, you hit 500$-1000$ a day but you are willing to give 50$ to fix your problem? (the main problem that runs your biz)........

scrubed emails? hmmmmmmm how you scrub the g mails or whatever in fact i have over 15 gmail account and 7 of them are blocked so if you scrape and my g mail account end up in your scraper do you think that your software deliver?
10.000 email are dead? a day? and they don't have blacklist your ip? with so many bounces?

you said that you make 1000$ a day or so and you don't use vps? just with atomic mail? lol
if that was true spammers will be rich.

you said 150 responses from 15.000 targeted and scraped emails? and you claim that you deliver inbox in g mail? hahahhahahaha or you don't deliver or you need to work your copy or you need to have a vps to host your mailer there and certainly not the atomic mailer....

when i said where is my money? after that it has a L O L it means laugh out loud......... and that means i din't want or need your money.......... i just provide free and valuable information......

and now let me tell you what i think...... you are spammer, you might don't want this word but if you send emails in scraped list is a spam so you are spammer, second you join here today in order to learn how to spam and send your offers, you have 0 rep but you said that you have do a lot of talking with blackhaters.

you claim that you make 500$-1000$ but you are willing to spend 50$ to get your biz up and running (and it seems without this you don't have a biz),

i am sure that even the atomic mail software you download it from some blackhat forum if not in this forum.


but whatever the case might be i don't care i just did my duty as a fellow member in this comiunity to give some value some help and explain some things because most of the people are confused about email marketing.....


(02-10-2014 04:50 AM)chewzlife101 Wrote:  Hi,

When did I say this wasn't spam? I just said my emails are kept can spam compliant. The only part which is dodgy is yes, they are scraped emails targeted pretty good.

The emails are scrubbed against a spam trap list and each email is checked to see if the domain used is still alive, so they are partially scrubbed, yes. What has any of what you said got to do with the problem I'm having? absolutely nothing.

Yes I do use different IP's, yes the smtp's are rotated and only a few sent from each, but again this has nothing to do with an issue which is changing the reply to address from one domain to another.

As I have said I have been using the setup for about a year without problems. Am I claiming a 100% inbox rate? absolutely not but gmail do get inboxed and do not go into spam. My setup isn't very sophisticated, I'm basically mailing out blind with no delivery reports but I can tell you from send of 25,000 daily (10,000 will be dead emails). I will typically get 100-150 replies from people interested. I make on average $500-$1000 every day from my very basic setup.

You have not answered my main question or been of much help so why would I send you $50.

I realize there are better setups that what I have, I have even tried a few from some smtp experts from blackhat forums. Guess what, with all their fancy talk with dkims, rotation and interspire I barely got 10 replies to my emails compared with my basic setup for over 100 replies every day like clockwork.

If anyone can answer the simple question as to why when using a different reply to address from my old domain causes the mails to hit spam, I'd appreciate it. I do not need advice on setting up squeeze pages, links, or where to buy a F****** list from.

Thanks.
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02-10-2014, 07:38 PM
Post: #6
RE:
I ain't confused, you are. Giving me pointless unhelpful information that any D***H*** knows who's involved themselves in emailing.

You have no idea on my services and what I offer so to say I need to change my copy is irrelevant and pointless. I don't need to lie, why would I?. It's a simple question worth $50 to someone. I currently can send out it's not a matter of urgency.

I've had expensive setups on a vps (btw if I wanted a proper setup it would be on a dedicated) but I can tell you from experience I inbox beter with my basic setup, believe it or not.

I own atomic along with mailer king and many others.

You are so unhelpful it's untrue, haven't got a clue about emailing and just spouting off crap you've heard other people saying.

So what I don't spend my life on this particular forum? get over it. People who actually have the knowledge, generally don't.
06-19-2014, 11:11 PM
Post: #7
RE:
use of the service has http://www.chegouemail.com.br/ version in Spanish (http://www.llegoemail.com/) and English (http://www.sendermail.us/) various plans and permits send spam
06-20-2014, 02:48 AM
Post: #8
RE:
I could help you out, skype me: getcoinforfree
07-22-2014, 02:05 AM
Post: #9
RE:
You said your emails are scrubbed against spam traps. The question is how big is your spam trap database?




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