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11-24-2012, 11:12 PM
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(10-14-2012 07:56 PM)CyberPunk Wrote:  spamming is just R*******. i cant stand the fact that so many people download a shared list of emails, import them and spam away.. then call it email marketing.. what a sham.

spamming is not cool

I send thousands of legit emails, build my own lists, and still make good money.. i dont see the point ruining my rep and the rep and reliability of my server. I cant wait for the day when filters are good enough to block 100% of spam.. so many people will be screwed like OMG i gotta find out how to do real marketing and hold a real business...
This is the best reply I've ever seen on here, Very very true. I've been bursting my ass trying to email in a compliant safe way.
Spam is spam. Don't expect good results with a mass distributed list. If your realistic about emailing enmass, you need to be adhering closely to ICANNs rules and regulations. This includes unsubscription options, Where the mail has come from and who sent it.
11-26-2012, 02:39 AM (This post was last modified: 11-26-2012 02:49 AM by daigdig.)
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I want to agree with you fellows, white hat is different with blackhat methods
11-26-2012, 02:43 AM (This post was last modified: 11-26-2012 02:52 AM by daigdig.)
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better make the post on blackhat section Blush
11-26-2012, 02:57 AM
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Sending mass emails doesnt necessarily mean spamming, it depends on why nd whats the purpose of your method. if you have a large corporation or international groups which you would like to communicate in timely basis, it is necessary to employ mass mail. It all depends on where you are going to use it.. its the purpose that differs.
11-26-2012, 03:26 AM
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I can provide you good solution of mass emailing with powermta 4 and interspire. skype me : smith.alfred86
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11-26-2012, 04:26 AM (This post was last modified: 11-26-2012 04:34 AM by Archimedes.)
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Tried the Dangerous Email sender in the above post. In three attempts to validate the live email addy that I own, all the IPs it used (3) seemed to be blocked by earthlink.net.... would have liked to use the service, but it doesn't seem to work.

(11-24-2012 11:12 PM)the ruiner Wrote:  
(10-14-2012 07:56 PM)CyberPunk Wrote:  spamming is just R*******. i cant stand the fact that so many people download a shared list of emails, import them and spam away.. then call it email marketing.. what a sham.

spamming is not cool

I send thousands of legit emails, build my own lists, and still make good money.. i dont see the point ruining my rep and the rep and reliability of my server. I cant wait for the day when filters are good enough to block 100% of spam.. so many people will be screwed like OMG i gotta find out how to do real marketing and hold a real business...
This is the best reply I've ever seen on here, Very very true. I've been bursting my ass trying to email in a compliant safe way.
Spam is spam. Don't expect good results with a mass distributed list. If your realistic about emailing enmass, you need to be adhering closely to ICANNs rules and regulations. This includes unsubscription options, Where the mail has come from and who sent it.

Agree that spamming is not kool. I don't like being SPAMMED either. However, I purchased at a high expen$e, a double opt-in list with street addresses as well as phone numbers that ended up sittting on my hard drive for three and a half years. I would like to verify the email addys to see how much of it is still valid and have the good addys re-opt in using an online service, or an email program such as Atomic Email Studio. Anyone here have a cracked version of Atomic Email Studio or a KeyGen?
11-26-2012, 05:18 AM
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Sorry bro,
If you have a list of that age it doesn't matter how much you paid for it. If your hell bent on trying to salvage something from the list I'd suggest you run them all through a verifying service. And not just a character checking script.
11-26-2012, 05:47 AM
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d***, you're probably right. Anything over a year old is no good at the breakneck speed on the web. However, because I paid such a huge chunk of coin for it, I'm gonna try to salvage something out of it...
11-26-2012, 05:56 AM
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@Cyberpunk - What is your malfunction? How is sending email R*******? Obviously there are plenty of us that are making money from it, why else would we do it? is Spamming (Emailing) is cool! Spamming (Emailing) is a cost-effective way to reach millions of potential clients.

Ruining the rep of your server? That is a problem yes, but in my eyes - it's not my server. It's leased - who doesn't dog the shit out of rental cars when they get them?

So email marketing is not real marketing or a real business? This is just ignorant babbling from someone who apparently has fallen for a phishing email scam or something. Why else would you have such a strong OPINION about it?

I've always genuinely wanted to get into the psyche of an "anti" such as yourself. I've never understood why it causes people like you so much anxiety to just *delete* the email. Nor why it's not an entirely better method than all of the junk mail you get in your mailbox at home (at least I'm saving the environment, by sending digitally).

Anyway, we're all entitled to our opinions - I think guys like you need to get a life, and guys like you think the same of me - so I guess we will just have to agree to disagree...
(10-14-2012 07:56 PM)CyberPunk Wrote:  spamming is just R*******. i cant stand the fact that so many people download a shared list of emails, import them and spam away.. then call it email marketing.. what a sham.

spamming is not cool

I send thousands of legit emails, build my own lists, and still make good money.. i dont see the point ruining my rep and the rep and reliability of my server. I cant wait for the day when filters are good enough to block 100% of spam.. so many people will be screwed like OMG i gotta find out how to do real marketing and hold a real business...
01-22-2013, 04:09 PM (This post was last modified: 01-22-2013 04:17 PM by Archimedes.)
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(11-26-2012 05:56 AM)zilla Wrote:  LOL. I guess there's 2 sides to every coin. I get a shitload of SPAM everyday (like several hundred) and I spend at least an hour deleting the shit out of it. I'd hate to do the same to someone else's time... however, I ain't judging here. If it is working for you, then d***, its all u.
What I'd like to do is just salvage the millions of double-opt-in email addys I purchased from a list broker that is now retired.... It is old, but considering the thousand$ I paid for it, I'd better get something out of it. I'm thinking VPS with either interspire or Atomic Email Studio.
I'd consider a trade of a fully working version of Atomic Email Studio v4.7 or later and a discounted VPS lease for the list. Any takers?

@Cyberpunk - What is your malfunction? How is sending email R*******? Obviously there are plenty of us that are making money from it, why else would we do it? is Spamming (Emailing) is cool! Spamming (Emailing) is a cost-effective way to reach millions of potential clients.

Ruining the rep of your server? That is a problem yes, but in my eyes - it's not my server. It's leased - who doesn't dog the shit out of rental cars when they get them?

So email marketing is not real marketing or a real business? This is just ignorant babbling from someone who apparently has fallen for a phishing email scam or something. Why else would you have such a strong OPINION about it?

I've always genuinely wanted to get into the psyche of an "anti" such as yourself. I've never understood why it causes people like you so much anxiety to just *delete* the email. Nor why it's not an entirely better method than all of the junk mail you get in your mailbox at home (at least I'm saving the environment, by sending digitally).

Anyway, we're all entitled to our opinions - I think guys like you need to get a life, and guys like you think the same of me - so I guess we will just have to agree to disagree...


(10-14-2012 07:56 PM)CyberPunk Wrote:  spamming is just R*******. i cant stand the fact that so many people download a shared list of emails, import them and spam away.. then call it email marketing.. what a sham.

spamming is not cool

I send thousands of legit emails, build my own lists, and still make good money.. i dont see the point ruining my rep and the rep and reliability of my server. I cant wait for the day when filters are good enough to block 100% of spam.. so many people will be screwed like OMG i gotta find out how to do real marketing and hold a real business...
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