[GET] (offtopic): Solid Reasons To Get Vaccinated

[Vivekananda]

Hello mthomas.
What is happening in Germany (and other countries)?

Please compare the following (that you can read at https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/world...nated.html ) with your sources of information.

" The University Hospital of Giessen, one of Germany’s foremost clinics for pulmonary disease, is at capacity. The number of Covid-19 patients has tripled in recent weeks. Nearly half of them are on ventilators. And every single one is unvaccinated."
“I ask every patient: Why didn’t you get vaccinated?” said Dr. Susanne Herold, head of infectious diseases, after her daily round on the ward on Thursday. “It’s a mix of people who distrust the vaccine, distrust the state and are often difficult to reach by public information campaigns.”

[Vivekananda]

There is an surreal thread about "reasons to not to get vaccinated" in this forum.

Here it is:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...Vaccinated

I don't care about what antivaxes say about imaginary problems of vaccines. If there are real problems, I want to know them. I'm already vaccinated (two shots).
I want to avoid a fight because there is an user in this forum that doesn't consider anything that goes against his own ideas as something with some value, so, as a personal favor to him, I created this thread to give some answers to other members in that very strange thread.
This user claims that there is not a real pandemic, but only "just an illness of unsuspecting people's minds via misguided thoughts". I've been reading lots of surreal declarations about the pandemic, but this one is one of the most absurd things that I've read.
How one epidemic started to crowd hospitals all over the world... with "misguided thoughts" ??????
He tried to show that a challenge to with a "$1,000,000 Reward for Solid Proof that COVID-19 Actually Exists" was enough "proof" that there is not a real virus.
I published a link to an electronic microscope image of the virus, and some considerations about an absurd world conspiracy. He stood quiet.
I asked: if there is not a real covid-19 virus, why hospitals all over the world were crowded? No answer. Again.
He thinks he asked two definitive questions to support his anti-vaccine arguments, but he didn't answer my questions to clarify those questions.
In post #66 of the thread, he wrote lots of things. There we can read this interesting nugget:
"All vaccinated people will die within 2 years. Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier has confirmed that there is no chance of survival for people who have received any form of the vaccine."
I have a life and don't want to spend too much time answering things that will be VERY clear in less than two year. I hope that next september can find all of us in good health.
Back to marketing studies.

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER

[AprilShowers]

Keep Charlie Munger's meta perspective in mind when dealing with an an·ti-vax·xer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uhixP3yPN8

[katara]

i feel sorry to people that vaccinated specially in bestblackhatforum they fall ,

that why you should aware in general culture not just aware of how to make money online

my advice to people that not vaccinated yet , dont do it

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The mran inventor itself warns of vaccines that used his techniques

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-car...e-inventor

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(11-15-2021 12:00 PM)Vivekananda Wrote:  There is an surreal thread about "reasons to not to get vaccinated" in this forum.

Here it is:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...Vaccinated


"All vaccinated people will die within 2 years. Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier has confirmed that there is no chance of survival for people who have received any form of the vaccine."

Well in that case, (as I've had my 3 Covid jabs now) I have just over a year left...... OMG!

Just when you thought that thread couldn't get anymore ridiculous.

[infoscan]

I am sick of all those speculations about vaccinations against Covid-19. First of all those "vaccines" are not vaccines. The term "Vaccine" is just the way "vaccine" producers use to skip responsibility for eventually bi-effects.
What you get if you take a "vaccine", is a dead genetic code of the Covid-19. Your body will react to this strange thing inside your body, by activating your immune system, and your own T-cells and B-cells will remember this genetic code, and start to produce proteins to get rid of it.

Remember, until today there are more than 2 million people around the world, who died because of Covid-19, or with Covid-19.

The number of antibodies your immune system makes after you are "vaccinated" will go down after a while, therefore you need to get a second shot and third etc, because your immunity against the Covid-19 will go down. That means, that you can be infected again, even if you are "vaccinated".

The only way we can stop spreading Covid-19 is mass "vaccination".

It is just a numbers game.
Example:

70% of the "population is "vaccinated" and you still have 30% of population who are not "vaccinated", who can infect others, and so on.

[Vivekananda]

This is part of some news from my country. (in Portuguese. Google translator was able to craft a good translation).

As far as my English knowledge can tell, Google translator was able to craft a good translation.

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrio...emia.shtml


Brazil has record Covid drop in major cities since the beginning of the pandemic
In October, new infections fell in 80% of municipalities with more than 100,000 inhabitants

"This is the great impact of a population with high vaccination coverage and recently vaccinated, as we now know that vaccines partially lose their protection over the months, although protection for severe cases, hospitalizations and deaths is longer lasting ", explains Renato Kfouri, pediatrician and director of SBim (Brazilian Society of Immunizations).

Despite having started the vaccination campaign against Covid about a month after countries like the United Kingdom and Germany, Brazil managed to advance and surpassed the mark of 70% of the population with at least one dose in the beginning of October.
Today, about 75% of the Brazilian population has received at least one dose of immunizing agents and 58% have already taken both doses or a single dose (*). In other countries, there is some difficulty in getting people who oppose vaccination to join the campaign.
In the US, where there is low adherence to vaccines in some states, vaccination coverage is not homogeneous, reaching around 40% of the fully vaccinated population in places like West Virginia and Wyoming. it is also important”, adds Kfouri.

An upsurge in the pandemic is also observed in Europe, with some countries like the Netherlands enacting new lockdowns. The European continent accounted for more than half of the new Covid cases in the world at the end of October and saw a sudden rise in new infections and hospitalizations by Covid after the relaxation of protective measures.
"This is a problem and we must be attentive because, despite the favorable epidemiological moment, it is important not to loosen the measures", emphasizes the epidemiologist and professor at the Faculty of Medicine of USP Paulo Lotufo.
Maintaining care, such as wearing masks, keeping people apart and preferably going to outdoor or well-ventilated spaces are measures that help to reduce the circulation of the virus.
"Vaccination plays a very important role in the slowdown of the pandemic in the country, but it alone is not our only weapon", stresses Denise Garrett, epidemiologist and vice president of the Sabin Institute of Vaccines (USA).
"In Brazil, we still don't have a vaccine coverage rate sufficient to explain, by itself, the complete slowdown of the pandemic", she says.
For specialists, almost two years after the start of the pandemic, one thing has already become clear: the movements of the disease came like waves, with the increase in cases at times of high susceptibility of populations or by a low number of people already immunized, or even for an escape of protection against new variants. Therefore, it is difficult to predict the future.

"We have seen that countries that have improved with vaccination and other control measures, when they relaxed, had problems again. Therefore, at this time of transition, it is important to be as cautious as possible to keep these levels [of new cases] low "says Garrett.
For Lotufo, "epidemiologically speaking", it is difficult to say when the pandemic will end. "But I believe it is moving faster than we thought. We are near the end of the beginning of the pandemic, but not yet the beginning of the end."

(*) "single dose" refers to the vaccine that only needs one dose (Janssen). In Brazil, the following vaccines are being applied:
Coronavac (Sinovac/Butantan - inactivated virus), Janssen (adenovirus vectors), Astrazeneca/Oxford (viral vector) and Pfizer BioNTech (RNA). Sputnik V (viral vector) and Covaxin (instigated virus) are authorized for exceptional import.

[manythanks]

Thanks for starting this thread @Vivekananda.

A few people I know are still avoiding getting the vaccine because they think it is more a political issue and/or that they will have "something" else given to them, or because of the reasons why should they even get the vaccine if "people who get a vaccine can still get Covid" So why bother?

I heard an analogy something like the vaccine works like wearing a bulletproof vest - if you get shot in the area where you're wearing a vest, you will not die. But you will have bruising, welts on impact points, and pain. But it will not pierce through you and damage you internally.

Or it's like wearing a seatbelt correctly, if you crash you have your seatbelt on
you can still get injuries but they will be a lot less severe than NOT wearing a seatbelt. Would you prefer less serious injuries wearing a seatbelt or death on impact without a seatbelt? Anyways, I thought that was a good analogy of having the vaccine as that layer of extra protection.

I wish YOU ALL health and wealth - caring and sharing on this wonderful forum : )

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...ic/619734/

(11-15-2021 11:26 AM)Vivekananda Wrote:  Hello mthomas.
What is happening in Germany (and other countries)?

Please compare the following (that you can read at https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/world...nated.html ) with your sources of information.

" The University Hospital of Giessen, one of Germany’s foremost clinics for pulmonary disease, is at capacity. The number of Covid-19 patients has tripled in recent weeks. Nearly half of them are on ventilators. And every single one is unvaccinated."
“I ask every patient: Why didn’t you get vaccinated?” said Dr. Susanne Herold, head of infectious diseases, after her daily round on the ward on Thursday. “It’s a mix of people who distrust the vaccine, distrust the state and are often difficult to reach by public information campaigns.”

[jimmythesaint]

Im glad that you are vaccinated.. now you will not infect me

thank you for your sacrifice

its appreciated

(11-15-2021 12:00 PM)Vivekananda Wrote:  There is an surreal thread about "reasons to not to get vaccinated" in this forum.

Here it is:
http://bestblackhatforum.com/Thread-GET-...Vaccinated

I don't care about what antivaxes say about imaginary problems of vaccines. If there are real problems, I want to know them. I'm already vaccinated (two shots).
I want to avoid a fight because there is an user in this forum that doesn't consider anything that goes against his own ideas as something with some value, so, as a personal favor to him, I created this thread to give some answers to other members in that very strange thread.
This user claims that there is not a real pandemic, but only "just an illness of unsuspecting people's minds via misguided thoughts". I've been reading lots of surreal declarations about the pandemic, but this one is one of the most absurd things that I've read.
How one epidemic started to crowd hospitals all over the world... with "misguided thoughts" ??????
He tried to show that a challenge to with a "$1,000,000 Reward for Solid Proof that COVID-19 Actually Exists" was enough "proof" that there is not a real virus.
I published a link to an electronic microscope image of the virus, and some considerations about an absurd world conspiracy. He stood quiet.
I asked: if there is not a real covid-19 virus, why hospitals all over the world were crowded? No answer. Again.
He thinks he asked two definitive questions to support his anti-vaccine arguments, but he didn't answer my questions to clarify those questions.
In post #66 of the thread, he wrote lots of things. There we can read this interesting nugget:
"All vaccinated people will die within 2 years. Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier has confirmed that there is no chance of survival for people who have received any form of the vaccine."
I have a life and don't want to spend too much time answering things that will be VERY clear in less than two year. I hope that next september can find all of us in good health.
Back to marketing studies.

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER

[jimmythesaint]

Im not vaccinated.. my whole family and myself had covid

the majority of people that I know are not vaccinated

what's the difference?

health and natural immunity

I will be 60 years old. I'm in the best shape of my life. I follow daily protocols and have not been sick since june 15 2004..

why would I even consider getting this MRNA injection??

i mean.. makes no sense..

if your sick

if your OBESE.. or have other issues.. then take it

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cd...obese.html

78% .. wow..

I've come to the conclusion.. this injection impairs your bodies immune system to deal with broad spectrum variants

its a personal choice.. between YOU and your doctor

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/dr-fauci...46228.html

On a different note.. I find it interesting how the vaxed keep campaigning others to follow them..

like they need to be validated.. strange mental thing

most independent people realize its a personal health choice and leave it at that

by the way

Vaccinated people.. can

1. get sick
2. pass it to others

the ONLY thing this injection will do is help you if your a sick or OBESE person.. to avoid severe complications.

personally.. in my opinion. I think vaccinated people are more dangerous because of this false sense of protection..