[GET] The Party Method

[Vanilla Bean]

Is this worth anything?

The Party Method

Sales Page

FE Access

OTO Access

[egyptianwariorking]

FE Access

OTO Access

the same page

please fix it

[Lumos]

If it matters...this is Matt and John Rhodes ("The Rhodes Brothers")
This reminds me of some other genius deals seen here that have buyers 'winning' stuff for free + shipping.
I'll be curious to see what other folks may think of it=> reviews, anyone ??

Here are the direct links scraped from the pages, notice that they mostly repeat with just a tiny bit added...

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FE:
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183368
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/00-intro.pdf
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183421
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/01-step01.pdf
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183483
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/02-step02.pdf
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183591
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/03-step03.pdf
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/party-giveaway-spreadsheet.xlsx
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mwrhodes/vip/Mailchimp_Training.zip
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mwrhodes/vip/Aweber_Training.zip
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mwrhodes/vip/Getresponse_Training.zip

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OTO:
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183368
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/00-intro.pdf
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183421
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/01-step01.pdf
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183483
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/02-step02.pdf
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183591
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/03-step03.pdf
https://player.vimeo.com/video/358183979
https://mwrhodes.s3.amazonaws.com/vip/party-method/party-giveaway-spreadsheet.xlsx
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mwrhodes/vip/Mailchimp_Training.zip
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mwrhodes/vip/Aweber_Training.zip
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mwrhodes/vip/Getresponse_Training.zip

[Vanilla Bean]

While the pages appear to be the same, a closer examination would reveal they are really different pages.

(09-13-2019 02:48 PM)egyptianwariorking Wrote:  FE Access

OTO Access

the same page

please fix it

[tupac]

(09-13-2019 03:31 PM)smithnowt Wrote:  If it matters...this is Matt and John Rhodes ("The Rhodes Brothers")
This reminds me of some other genius deals seen here that have buyers 'winning' stuff for free + shipping.
I'll be curious to see what other folks may think of it=> reviews, anyone ??

Hi
Well, well, well.
Not an expert in dropshipping but there is a couple of things (red flags) I find weird in this product:

1. they say we are surfing the trend of free + shipping!!!
I thought it's burned out already... like I said no expert and this may work if you test etc... not my thing.

2. The example of the giveaway is dated 2017!!!
I mean this course is not for sale yet and yet, the only example they thought would help is an example from 2017???

Well, well, well.
Not my thing, I'm out.

Thank you for the share, reps.
Note: I barely watched the course, just a few minutes of 2 videos, so who knows, this may be golden or the contrary is right.

People!
Never listen to me or anyone telling you it works or doesn't work.

Why?

Simple.
-Because what is golden for me can be crap for you and vice versa.
-Where you are from, your market, your budget, your knowledge, your level of risk-taking, your motivation, your education etc, there are dozen and dozen of reasons why one thing can be viewed differently by each one of us.
-So always do your due diligence, check, test and see if it works for you or not.

Cheers.

[Harvest365]

Thank you Vanilla Bean for the original awesome share!

Thank you smithnowt for the S3 bucket ripped links!

Thank you tupac for sharing your valuable review, opinions and ideas!

Much appreciated from all!

Max reps to you all!! ;0)

[Adman1948]

Thanks for the great share!

[tristan]

This is an interesting plan, it's clever, and a well-delivered course, but ultimately unsatisfying.

The issue of whether the "free with shipping" construct is past its "best-by date" isn't actually relevant because it's used here in a different context.

What they do is set-up a 5-separate-days giveaway under some contrived event for a specific target-able group (in their case, nurses). On each of 5 days, everyone who opts in to the giveaway gets a shot at winning something -- in this case, jewelry. They do 10 giveaways a day but say others could do as few as 1.

But what's clever is how they milk everything. For example, after someone opts-in to be part of the giveaway they are directed to a thank-you page and it offers a free-with-shipping deal. Anyone who takes it up gets offered a "Bump" -- add one more for a few bucks. Then they are offered an upsell. And an upsell bump.

So they make money for 3 days before the giveaway starts.
Everything of course is Ali-X dropshipped with the e-packet delivery.

Then every day there are the giveaways and people have to visit a page to see who won and of course, on that page there are opportunities to take advantage of .... etc.

Then After the 5 days they do a "bundle" sale where people can BUY (no longer fws) any one of the 5 giveaways or the whole bundle. At low prices.

Then there's a 48-hour "Signature" sale where they bundle a few things together that weren't part of the giveaway.

So by the time they finished it had become a 10? 12? Day event. With money made every day.

Now, at one level this was a spectacular success. Their OTO or Bonus is a detailed case study. They generated a list of 4000+ in 2 weeks and they got paid for it. That's pretty darn good. And they point out that depending on the event and the audience this could be a "Firefighter's Fall" with repeats for several months rather than a 1-off event.

They also learned some market intelligence -- some of the products were 2X more popular than others. So they have a better sense of what the List is likely to respond to when they mail offers. And they claim to have generated some goodwill by running the giveaway (my experience with something similar supports that, although that's a data point of 1).

What I found unsatisfying were some of the details.

First, they make no mention of traffic beyond "you can get traffic to the giveaway any way you want," which is true but in their case they have a long-established association with Nurses so it doesn't seem to me they had to do much more than announce it to a Group or a Page that had a lot of folk involved.

Their total sales were around $6400. But after product costs I'd suspect their Net was more like $2500. "Suspect" because they don't tell you. They just say "Of course this wasn't all profit, out of this there were product costs and so on." Well, it's an easy brush-off if those costs were 10% but if they are say 40% or 50% or 60% ... it shouldn't be such a trivial dismissal.

Then, they got 4600-ish opt-ins. If that had been paid traffic, what would the costs have been? At 50c a click that probably comes close to wiping out the net profit. But I just invented "50c." Who knows.

Even so, that would still mean it cost them nothing to build a list of 4600 in 10 days. Except in fact, although they emphasize the simplicity of this, there are still a lot of moving parts. Clickfunnels simplifies it, of course and along with their Bonus/OTO I think you get the templates. But even so there's the selection of 10+ products, the opt-in page, the TY page, setting up the Bump and the Upsell and Bump, the 5 giveaway pages with "Check here to see if you won" pages, and so on. This isn't 5 minutes. Plus handling the Orders to the Ali-X folk. And maybe dealing with customer inquiries etc.

Would it still be worth all the time and the effort to get a list of 4600 in 10 days? Quite possibly. Depends on a lot, doesn't it. How experienced you are at setting something like this up. Whether the List is responsive and follows the usual rules of thumb of revenue potential. You could have run a paid-traffic promo of a lead magnet to that same Group and I doubt you'd have got 25% of that response. But with a crapload less work.

Anyway, like I said -- clever plan, excellent course material, hard to argue with building a list that size in 2 weeks and probably putting a little cash in pocket even with paid ads... but more work than is obvious and not a clear-cut "Yep, let's do it." Possibly justifies serious thought if someone had access to the traffic without paying for it.

S'all. Your opinions might, of course, vary.

[tintin]

(09-17-2019 06:01 PM)tristan Wrote:  This is an interesting plan, it's clever, and a well-delivered course, but ultimately unsatisfying.

The issue of whether the "free with shipping" construct is past its "best-by date" isn't actually relevant because it's used here in a different context.

What they do is set-up a 5-separate-days giveaway under some contrived event for a specific target-able group (in their case, nurses). On each of 5 days, everyone who opts in to the giveaway gets a shot at winning something -- in this case, jewelry. They do 10 giveaways a day but say others could do as few as 1.

But what's clever is how they milk everything. For example, after someone opts-in to be part of the giveaway they are directed to a thank-you page and it offers a free-with-shipping deal. Anyone who takes it up gets offered a "Bump" -- add one more for a few bucks. Then they are offered an upsell. And an upsell bump.

So they make money for 3 days before the giveaway starts.
Everything of course is Ali-X dropshipped with the e-packet delivery.

Then every day there are the giveaways and people have to visit a page to see who won and of course, on that page there are opportunities to take advantage of .... etc.

Then After the 5 days they do a "bundle" sale where people can BUY (no longer fws) any one of the 5 giveaways or the whole bundle. At low prices.

Then there's a 48-hour "Signature" sale where they bundle a few things together that weren't part of the giveaway.

So by the time they finished it had become a 10? 12? Day event. With money made every day.

Now, at one level this was a spectacular success. Their OTO or Bonus is a detailed case study. They generated a list of 4000+ in 2 weeks and they got paid for it. That's pretty darn good. And they point out that depending on the event and the audience this could be a "Firefighter's Fall" with repeats for several months rather than a 1-off event.

They also learned some market intelligence -- some of the products were 2X more popular than others. So they have a better sense of what the List is likely to respond to when they mail offers. And they claim to have generated some goodwill by running the giveaway (my experience with something similar supports that, although that's a data point of 1).

What I found unsatisfying were some of the details.

First, they make no mention of traffic beyond "you can get traffic to the giveaway any way you want," which is true but in their case they have a long-established association with Nurses so it doesn't seem to me they had to do much more than announce it to a Group or a Page that had a lot of folk involved.

Their total sales were around $6400. But after product costs I'd suspect their Net was more like $2500. "Suspect" because they don't tell you. They just say "Of course this wasn't all profit, out of this there were product costs and so on." Well, it's an easy brush-off if those costs were 10% but if they are say 40% or 50% or 60% ... it shouldn't be such a trivial dismissal.

Then, they got 4600-ish opt-ins. If that had been paid traffic, what would the costs have been? At 50c a click that probably comes close to wiping out the net profit. But I just invented "50c." Who knows.

Even so, that would still mean it cost them nothing to build a list of 4600 in 10 days. Except in fact, although they emphasize the simplicity of this, there are still a lot of moving parts. Clickfunnels simplifies it, of course and along with their Bonus/OTO I think you get the templates. But even so there's the selection of 10+ products, the opt-in page, the TY page, setting up the Bump and the Upsell and Bump, the 5 giveaway pages with "Check here to see if you won" pages, and so on. This isn't 5 minutes. Plus handling the Orders to the Ali-X folk. And maybe dealing with customer inquiries etc.

Would it still be worth all the time and the effort to get a list of 4600 in 10 days? Quite possibly. Depends on a lot, doesn't it. How experienced you are at setting something like this up. Whether the List is responsive and follows the usual rules of thumb of revenue potential. You could have run a paid-traffic promo of a lead magnet to that same Group and I doubt you'd have got 25% of that response. But with a crapload less work.

Anyway, like I said -- clever plan, excellent course material, hard to argue with building a list that size in 2 weeks and probably putting a little cash in pocket even with paid ads... but more work than is obvious and not a clear-cut "Yep, let's do it." Possibly justifies serious thought if someone had access to the traffic without paying for it.

S'all. Your opinions might, of course, vary.

Appreciate ya for the detailed review but isnt the proof from the year 2017?

No doubt the idea is good but still...

[tristan]

(09-17-2019 08:48 PM)tintin Wrote:  Appreciate ya for the detailed review but isnt the proof from the year 2017?

No doubt the idea is good but still...

Whoa! I'm editing my initial response to the quote -- complete brainfart, I mixed-up 2 products I've reviewed.

I can't comment on the date on anything in the course -- I can't recall the details and I've checked out a few other courses since then. But I've been running giveaways and contests for years (without and with automation to help with viral growth) and I've used FWS tactics in there too from time to time and in the right context my experience is, they still work. I hear that people using Upviral still get superb results, too. When I've tested giveaways versus "regular" lead magnets I've almost always gotten a big boost. Of course this might mean I stink at choosing lead magnets. Your mileage might vary.

It interests me when people just dismiss something because it's not got a current date on it. Eugene Schwartz, Jay Abraham, kiss your legacies goodbye? Don't think so.

Sometimes you have to rethink dated stuff and adapt it or maybe even abandon it, of course. Perhaps the functionality has changed (FB ads, Google ads, SEO, for example) or what's permissible has changed or market tastes or buyer sophistication has changed. But writing stuff off *simply* because it has an earlier date ... or because of an *impression* it's past its "best by" date rather than Testing ... anyone who makes that type of judgement call is missing out on some terrific opportunities. And that's their privilege, of course, and I respect it.

As the saying goes -- in God we trust, everyone else must bring data.