[GET] James Renouf's - The Hidden Web

[Noxon]

I will pass ANYTHING comming from James Renouf. IMHO he is one of the shittiest/"Top BS Creator" marketer online.

[SuperMIC]

Well, indeed, there are loads of people doing so! Not only that, but the WHOLE information industry works EXACTLY the SAME WAY. Just that not much realize it, that's it. EVERYTHING is FREELY available nowadays on the information super highway called Internet! Every book or magazine you buy, every course you pay for, even the highest ticket ones, every video course or membership site YOU PAY to access to, all the information ALL OF IT is FREELY available online! Period. Where do you believe that those creating these products are taking all the information? Out of nowhere? It just pops like that in their minds? Think about it! The value brought is in the research, compilation and testing and results, and finally the convenient presentation of the information in Book, video, magazine or any other format you can imagine, that is sold, and that someone not willing to spend HOURS DAYS WEEKS MONTHS AND YEARS doing the same process, but just want the final "report" by paying a "small fee" to access it, compared to time and work involved in compiling the information. Notice that EVERYONE is absolutely FREE to so the exact SAME THING! Wake up!

(06-03-2014 04:27 AM)MrPhilstivus Wrote:  I know this will stick out like a sore thumb, and I don't know this author very well, but all that it seems he is doing is selling information - in this case, information about the dark web.

Not everyone is as 'Net savvy as BBHF members - there are still those who are totally unaware of the money-making potential of the dark side. What's so wrong about charging $10 for that info?

Aren't there loads of people re-packinging and re-selling public domain material? What about PLR - that's just a massive rip, isn't it? Hell, bitcoin itself, like most other currencies both crypto and fiat, is only worth what the masses perceive it to be worth - isn't THAT a massive crime wave?

I understand that the folks who already know that the TOR browser is free and are already using it will laugh at the simplistic presentation that Renouf gives, but we all have to start somewhere, right?

My only argument with this .pdf was the holier-than-thou attitude he took with the "guns and sex and drugs" sites - hey, that's all business too, right? People gotta' eat, don't they? Pretty strange to see a guy selling free info for $10 dissing someone selling a little weed or a nice .45.

Thanks to BBHF and One I didn't have to shell out any dineros for this thing - I wouldn't have in any case since I already use TOR - but for a certain type of person I think this could be somewhat of an inspirational piece of writing.

Let the flaming commence ... :)

[MagicMike]

(06-03-2014 04:27 AM)MrPhilstivus Wrote:  I know this will stick out like a sore thumb, and I don't know this author very well, but all that it seems he is doing is selling information - in this case, information about the dark web.

Not everyone is as 'Net savvy as BBHF members - there are still those who are totally unaware of the money-making potential of the dark side. What's so wrong about charging $10 for that info?

Aren't there loads of people re-packinging and re-selling public domain material? What about PLR - that's just a massive rip, isn't it? Hell, bitcoin itself, like most other currencies both crypto and fiat, is only worth what the masses perceive it to be worth - isn't THAT a massive crime wave?

I understand that the folks who already know that the TOR browser is free and are already using it will laugh at the simplistic presentation that Renouf gives, but we all have to start somewhere, right?

My only argument with this .pdf was the holier-than-thou attitude he took with the "guns and sex and drugs" sites - hey, that's all business too, right? People gotta' eat, don't they? Pretty strange to see a guy selling free info for $10 dissing someone selling a little weed or a nice .45.

Thanks to BBHF and One I didn't have to shell out any dineros for this thing - I wouldn't have in any case since I already use TOR - but for a certain type of person I think this could be somewhat of an inspirational piece of writing.

Let the flaming commence ... :)

Totally agree with you. It's all just information, some of it advanced, some beginner, some intermediate. It's really the same with any subject. When you take a chemistry course you start with "chemistry 101", but the textbook still costs $110 !!!

[**PitBull**]

(06-02-2014 07:24 PM)itshim Wrote:  you gotta hand it to james he does what he always does takes information thats already in the public domain and charges ppl $10 for the priviledge of reading it. Well done james, PS your still a scumbag shyster piece of human filth

Could not agree more...besides Cory Friedman i dont think there is a marketer that is more scummier than Renouf....F****** twat!!!!

[jimmyjames]

I made the mistake of buying another of his thin, worthless piece of sh*t wso's a year or so ago.
He also made a fb software he sold a lot of, which was then closed down due to violation of tos and people were bitching about his not giving any compensation to them for that. (He could at least have given them a few freebies or something!)
In short this guy is a total p.o.s. and should be banned from selling on any site at all.

[TECH N9NE]

I honestly didn't think it was a bad read, at least it wasn't the same old youtube, list building..blah blah ebooks everyone is coming out with... +rep to op.

[one]

Thanks for all the reviews.

I read it and thought a couple of things. First, an easy read. Actually I enjoyed reading it.

Second, however, it didn't go very far, when you consider the price is 9 dollars +.

I gleaned one or two things that I hadn't considered: how to create an "onion" site (?) - still not sure about that one. And, while I knew about the "deep, dark" web, I will confess there is a certain fear that I feel. Am I going to bump into things (images, text, thugs(?))

I read through the WF comments. With 3 or 4 exceptions, they were all rosy. I had to wonder, were they paid reviews?? Or is the WF just full of kissy folk that help one another launch product after s****** product. In my world, 9 + dollars is not trivial. I think if gurus (which James was flattered to be called among them, in the aforementioned thread) realized that we don't all make a lot - starve, in fact, just to pay our utilities - then, some of the gurus selling for newbie material, would be a little red-faced with shame.

I totally understand advanced marketing materials being sold for a premium, take Todd Brown, Andre Chaperon, many others - these fine marketers sell gold to those that are already in the mix. But to fleece the newbie, just think - some of these un-knowing people might throw their last months rent out the window, for a mistaken notion, that some "guru's" on Warrior Forum would gladly sell them with no remorse.

[miked]

If you want to learn how to make yourself known as a total ...... - study what Mr. Renouf does and just do the same - I would be ashamed to be associated with this kind of low value stuff, but he obviously doesn't care about his reputation at all. Well, people are different hey... If I had to say it in one word it would be: "ouch..."

[Pogi]

I wish Renouf would disappear into the Hidden Web!

[newquark]

Sh.eeiiit of there wasn't a Renouf or Cory Freidman who would we flame!?

Thanks OP! I read the pdf as well and agreewith @one and @Tech N9NE that outside of his condescending attitude on things he's against, (sex, guns and dope in short), it wasn't a bad read...

I give the guy some credit for his very abstract, left brain thinking. I'd never implement his stuff, but I wont diss it either as I always recall the history of left brainers have with getting dissed for original thinking. At some point one of those hair-brained ideas will pop, and I'll be smiling in the background thinking.... f__k, I wish I had the nerve to put out my stupid arsed ideas for a cost!

He's definitely on the other end of the IM Spectrum. I just sayin... You never know.