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05-12-2014, 04:17 AM
Post: #21
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(05-12-2014 04:12 AM)oggie Wrote:  Smells like someone is phising to gain trust in a BlackHat forum
then try and rip people off by having them send money using the PM

Be careful guys!!
Remember what happen not to long ago with this type of shit!
NOT!

The last group I would ever target are Blackhatters, lol Tongue

Let's stick to the issues of why the OP WSO supposedly doesn't work.
05-12-2014, 04:30 AM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2014 04:31 AM by oggie.)
Post: #22
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(05-12-2014 04:17 AM)Warrior2012 Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 04:12 AM)oggie Wrote:  Smells like someone is phising to gain trust in a BlackHat forum
then try and rip people off by having them send money using the PM

Be careful guys!!
Remember what happen not to long ago with this type of shit!
NOT!

The last group I would ever target are Blackhatters, lol Tongue

Let's stick to the issues of why the OP WSO supposedly doesn't work.
This is a big issue, and you as a Newbie here are wanting to ignore it
tells me you just might be the product creator or you are the phising one.

I'll keep to my gut felling if you don't mind
05-12-2014, 04:54 AM
Post: #23
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(05-12-2014 04:30 AM)oggie Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 04:17 AM)Warrior2012 Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 04:12 AM)oggie Wrote:  Smells like someone is phising to gain trust in a BlackHat forum
then try and rip people off by having them send money using the PM

Be careful guys!!
Remember what happen not to long ago with this type of shit!
NOT!

The last group I would ever target are Blackhatters, lol Tongue

Let's stick to the issues of why the OP WSO supposedly doesn't work.
This is a big issue, and you as a Newbie here are wanting to ignore it
tells me you just might be the product creator or you are the phising one.

I'll keep to my gut felling if you don't mind
Product creator, No. I viewed a few videos to see what this guy offered.

He understands the process, but I thought he delivery was poor. His speaking style sucks.

My Avatar (my target client) is not a Blackhatter.

We can stick to the real world and discuss how everyone is so negative against this guys WSO and why it doesn't work.

I'm new to this forum and it's sad how many post I see from forum members who have a lot of post that say negative shit that ain't true.

There is one guy here, I think his name is NonConformer, he always post good shit and he knows the process.

If it's one thing newbies can take away from this is don't listen to any anonymous member (incl me). Follow real marketing people who know their shit.

There are so many products on this forum that are so good and never get downloaded.

It's a real shame.
05-12-2014, 08:30 AM
Post: #24
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@warrior, how many emails do you usually send before you sell your product?

d***, i love this forum. So much information to digest!
05-12-2014, 09:59 AM
Post: #25
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(05-12-2014 08:30 AM)mrcarter Wrote:  @warrior, how many emails do you usually send before you sell your product?

d***, i love this forum. So much information to digest!
When I do a cold launch to Cold traffic I need to develop a relationship first or no one will buy.

I give away really good info. Sometimes the info I give away for free (from the course itself) is better than the info they pay for..Eben Pagan taught me that tactic.

But when cold traffic opts in to my email capture I normally send 4 emails over 10 days.

I include different modalities of media. Some people like to read so I send a PDF. Must be PDF so people can read on smartphones.

I also sent PowerPoint videos for people who like to watch online.

Every once in a while I'll include an MP3 so people can download.

But over the course of 4 emails, videos and PDFs, the prospect either believes what I can do for them is true or they don't buy for whatever reason.

If you want to study Sales Funnels, they search Todd Brown, Ryan Deiss, Frank Kern, Dan Kennedy, Rich Schefren, etc... they are all Masters at it. Most of their products are in this forum.

BTW, there is NO such thing as Internet Marketing. The internet is just another media channel like TV, Radio, Print Media, etc...

Marketing on the internet is easy to get started. You can get cheap traffic via YT and FB.

Get them into your sales funnel and collect the money.
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05-12-2014, 10:24 AM
Post: #26
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Pretty sure warrior2012 is Mario of the caneron and mario offline training. Their stuff is really excellent, and mario teaches excellent selling skills similar to straight line persuasion. I would listen to what he has to say- everything I read here sounds like he knows what he is talking about. If this mario I thing he also want by kenny cannon sometime back and caused a bit of uproar. Regardless who he really is, I am interested in learning what he has to share. Sorry to hijack thread a little, kinda got off topic.
05-12-2014, 10:40 AM
Post: #27
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+Rep added - Thank you very much NOP for your share!

+Rep added - Thank you very much widdows9000 for your mirror!
05-12-2014, 11:09 AM
Post: #28
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(05-12-2014 10:24 AM)smartguy Wrote:  Pretty sure warrior2012 is Mario of the caneron and mario offline training. Their stuff is really excellent, and mario teaches excellent selling skills similar to straight line persuasion. I would listen to what he has to say- everything I read here sounds like he knows what he is talking about. If this mario I thing he also want by kenny cannon sometime back and caused a bit of uproar. Regardless who he really is, I am interested in learning what he has to share. Sorry to hijack thread a little, kinda got off topic.
Let's please NOT give someone any credit they don't deserve.

No one here knows me. I don't teach Internet Marketing or Business Opportunities.

I market products in Finance.

I offer my own products upfront then Affiliate products on the back-end. My clients are life-time clients. It's not a one time sale.

Each customer is potentially worth thousand of dollars to me.

If I can offer help then I'll steer you to products that are readily available in this forum for free.

I will not be doing any JV with anyone nor offering any products.

I don't have the time plus I would lose money because you are not one of my lifetime clients.

The only point I want to get across is that it is not as hard as some fear.

Build a list, show people you care, and offer great value.

All the so-called traffic tips, and ninja crap is worthless if you don't have the above at heart.

I don't know what happened in this forum before, but please don't lump me in with any scumbags.

Peace

P.S. If you want some really good material then search NonConformer and download his stuff. It's usually Marketing or Copywriting based, that's all you need.
05-15-2014, 02:12 PM
Post: #29
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Hey guys, I'm actually the product owner.

I come in here from time to time to check up and have a quick laugh and some entertainment when I'm bored.

Anyways, enjoy the download ladies and gentlemen. I'm actually using this case study to build trust for my potential $5k coaching clients. So please send me any feedback directly on how I can improve it.

For those who don't think this works. Well, keep thinking that. Because while I'm making $3k/day online and $1M/year and rising from my startup, you're making a big ZERO dollars. I love it when people talk smack about products that actually work without first hand experience. Incredible!

Warrior2012, you seem like you actually know something about marketing online. I can tell you that this isn't your scene. Start hanging out in the right crowd (e.g. WF) and opportunities will fly your way. This is certainly not the place you should be.
05-16-2014, 09:21 AM (This post was last modified: 05-16-2014 09:24 AM by eonjohn.)
Post: #30
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Thanks for the share... + rep added

Here's my review:

1. He outlines the overview of the entire strategy. Don't get me wrong, the strategy is sound and it is an earning model. I've tried webinars before and I still do. Conversions are higher which is good but webinar attendance is almost always a problem.

What wasn't discussed in this video is that gotowebinar has a monthly fee, add the expense for a hosting and domain and squeeze page creator. The initial investment needed should be stated so as not to confuse people that this is a free strategy.

2. He shows his landing page, thank you page and the webinar registration page. What I like is that he showed samples and didn't blur out any part of it. What didn't appeal to me is that this came off a little bit as a self promotion because he suggests a software which he owns by the way as a means to create your webinar registration page and host your own webinar which costs $97 / month. Although, this is a bargain compared to gotowebinar. I'm just not aware of the specs if it is indeed better aside from having unlimited attendees. Again this will add to your initial investment. ( in all fairness the webinar page looked nice).

3. On the third video, he explains that you can promote other coaching offers not just tour own just in case you still don't have one.

He also went over briefly on the traffic source which is solo ads. He advocates checking sales on the warrior forum as a barometer for choosing the solo ad provider. Your goal, get 3 people to buy the coaching program at $497.

What I like: It offers a cool way to check if a solo might do well or not.
What I didn't like: The script for the webinar will be offered as an upsell.

4. shows you the math (profits and clicks) on the webinar. Nothing much. Just a bit of a disclaimer, this kind of result is not an average result.

5. He goes and buys all traffic through solo ads from warrior forum. He also suggests safe swaps and reed florens solo ad. On a side note: reed floren's solo ad directory can be a bit pricey especially for proven ones like Igor Khefeit's solos. Tried this once and got burned on a proven converting campaign that I have. So take things with a grain of salt.

6. After a few days, he went in to report that his solo ads went well and suggests adtrackz gold for tracking. This is another investment you just have to make if you're doing marketing online.

What I like: He shows some stats and a brief explanation of tracking.
What I don't like: Tracking should have been introduced way before searching for solos.

7. Discussed the results of the finished webinar and some stats.

8. sums up the results of the case study using a $500 investment to make 23k (expect to invest more than that if you're new to webinars and stuff.

Verdict:

If you're a newbie without any experience on making a sales funnel, don't have the necessary tools like hosting, domain, , tracker, gotowebinar or his webinar software which is cheaper, a working squeeze page, autoresponder for email capture and the webinar page creator and no idea on how to run a webinar this one is not for you. Don't bother downloading it since the nuts and bolts are left out and you'll be left wondering what's the next step. To be fair, he offered an upsell on video 8 telling you that he offers a completely done for you setup of the funnel. Only problem is, some people won't know what to do with it without the hand holding which I don't know if he offers.

However, if you already know your way around funnels and want to try webinars, this product is for you. What's better is he gives the exact coaching program for you to promote if you don't have a high end offer. If you're already comfortable with internet marketing, I would not suggest that you buy this course but rather the upsell which is priced at $97 that includes the funnel (squeeze page, thank you page, and the webinar page), the webinar powerpoint and script, and the lifetime access to the webinar software (priced at $97 a month) which enables you to also have unlimited attendees (compared to gotowebinar which is limited to 1000 attendees).

personally I like the lifetime access to the webinar software myself. =)

So for experienced marketers which I know most here in BBHF are, buy the upsell if not only for the webinar software.
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