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09-09-2014, 05:15 AM
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09-09-2014, 05:25 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2014 05:28 AM by Quasar.)
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(09-09-2014 04:52 AM)stevencfitness Wrote: Yes indeed. Aww Dude!! You just blew the shit out of my opinion of you! Please tell me you are not serious! Mike the "Flim-Flam Man" Filsaime and Andy "The Chief M.oron" Jenkins crap?! NO! Not crap - SUPER-ULTRA-MEGA CRAP - that they usually copy or steal from some poor schm.uck marketer that didn't know what s/he had! Traffic Genesis?!! Really?!! Say it ain't so! These two d.ickwads have sold more useless bullshit to more clueless newbies than just about any 100 people on earth - combined! Even for free - I DO NOT WANT THIS! Hell - even if they paid me, I would not want it! And no one that knows these two would want their shit either! You thought the bullshit Facebook stuff was bad?! Wait until you see their overpriced pile of shit!
You have to learn the rules of the game. Then you have to play better than anyone else. -Albert Einstein
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09-09-2014, 05:42 AM
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Hey brother, I've said dozens of times I am new... So I will take advice.
Want to form an opinion on me? Form it around the fact that I admit I'm not some expert and that I actually freaking listen to the advice of others (like yourself) who have more experience than me. With that in ask you then, what can a newbie use as a way to learn Facebook marketing? I've already figured out that anik singal is a con... He sells a $300 program (inbox blueprint) to what, show me to present cpa offers at the end of my opt in as my Thank you page? I've already done better than that, redirecting them to a faux loading page that gets them forwarded to a clickbank offer that's a $80 commission... I figure since the anik bullshit doesn't convert at $0.50 and depends on Americans mostly. That pissed me off on inbox blueprint.. They don't tell you that you need to have international cpa offers if your lost is targeting everywhere. Anyhow that's me. So don't be fast to form that opinion lol... I just wanna do this legitimately honestly and make a real nice living but starting to wonder if that shit is even possible. Ps I'll stop looking for traffic Genesis too. Thanks for the heads up. (09-09-2014 05:25 AM)Quasar Wrote:(09-09-2014 04:52 AM)stevencfitness Wrote: Yes indeed. |
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09-09-2014, 06:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2014 06:55 AM by Quasar.)
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You're welcome.
You are going to do fine dude. 95% of the people here still haven't figured out that Singal is more full of shit than a Christmas turkey. If you asked 100 members here that know Singal, 95 of them would tell you he walks on water. Yet he never has - EVER - sold anything of any real value. He's a hell of a snake charmer though. He will talk the dollar bills right out of your wallet - a master peddler. He does have that going for him. Filsaime, Jenkins, Kern, Silver, Bacak - all these guys are in exactly the same mold as this, and got fat selling people stuff about - you guessed it - how to do stuff online. It doesn't make them any more right or have any greater knowledge than you or me have. What these guys all have in common and are amazing at doing is convincing you to buy stuff. They scare the shit out of you and make you believe they have or know something you don't. But it ends there! Just remember the #1 rule about all the stuff dealing with online marketing: Most of it will be stuff that you either already know or makes sense to you BEFORE you buy it. All these guys do is attach mysticism to the process of making you think you don't know it or can't find it. People will rarely sell you the stuff that really works - doing that has real value and keeps them fat and you guessing. The stuff that really works has a tight lid on it because NO ONE is selling that golden shit. The bonus bucks are keeping you on the hook for their next "prize pretzel." Kinda like the Traffic Genesis thing. There are thousands of pieces of crap out there just like it - or better - or worse. The easiest way to counter these pitchmen is to think with your head and not your wallet. Most of what they show you is simple trial and error - AND TAKING ACTION - like you already found out about Singal. More often than not, these guys are full of shit. You'll find you often know more than they do. All you do is take a look at the processes that make buying happen and stop listening to these bullshit artists. If it makes common sense to you - you take action. You don't guess - you try it on a simple scale to see if it works. If it works, then you scale to suit. It ain't rocket science, but these guys sure make you believe they have magic cookies to solve all your problems and cure all your ills! We both know that is bullshit. And about this Facebook thing - the window to make serious money with it with only a little bit of money is closing slowly but steadily. It will stop becoming profitable for most ordinary marketers as soon as the cost of doing marketing on Facebook exceeds acceptable ROIs - it's simple math. And when you break any marketing process down to its base elements - it's about money. What is your ROI and how can you maximize it. Or does it cost too much? You have noticed that the latest and greatest Facebook stuff is no longer about how to game their systems, right? Now, it is about how to maximize Facebook advertising dollars with effective strategies involving targeting, placement and effective ad writing, and optimizing ad design and wording. In other words, it has become about real marketing - not smoke-and-mirrors bullshit, which has had a solid place in the MMO arena - UNTIL NOW. Well, FB ads costs money, don't they - even if it's only pennies and nickels now? Even those pennies and nickels add up really fast. So, if you follow what even the FB neophytes are concentrating on and doing, where do you think your emphasis should now be? It is going to cost more and more money to do it as we move forward too - and lots more skill than the guys I see peddling this crap have. As in all online marketing, I don't have a clue who the biggest marketing dog on Facebook is. They are smart enough to keep their mouths shut.
You have to learn the rules of the game. Then you have to play better than anyone else. -Albert Einstein
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09-09-2014, 07:08 AM
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Quasar is right, these guys are like politicians. They sell a good line and their eyes are glued to your wallet at all times.
Want to get RICH ONLINE? Do this. Step 1 - RESEARCH in depth what your markets problems are and what kinds of questions they are "thinking" and asking. Step 2 - Find, buy or create solutions and answers to their problems and questions. Package it into a marketable product and/or service and create an offer they can't refuse. Step 3 - Put your offer in front of your market. BTW - Facebook helps you narrow down your market to exactly the kind of people that want to throw money at you for those solutions. That's it. You can make that as complex or as easy as you want. Rinse, repeat, scale. Some fucktard will now package this thread up and sell it on the shithole warrior forum. |
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09-09-2014, 07:54 AM
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Thanks - Great share - Rep
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09-09-2014, 11:37 AM
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For those that want to go through this in the author's suggested order, here is the sequence:
It all starts with the market 1. Full of hungry buyers (how to find hungry buyers on Facebook) List of hungry markets on Facebook The Ultimate Quick And Easy Guide To Finding A Facebook Niche 2. Offer Selecting An Offer To Promote PDF 3. Ads. Finding Ads That Work PDF 4. Landers Creating Highly Irresistible And High Converting Landing Pages PDF How to get high converting landing pages made for less than 30 dollars or less PDF (BONUS) 5. Targets Finding FB Targets PDF 6. Tracking Tracking in 3 Easy Steps PDF 7. Optimising the offer FB Getting Lowest CPC possible PDF 8. Scale Scaling FB PDF (Bonus) |
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09-09-2014, 11:40 AM
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I don't think this course is that bad really and if you aren't familiar w/ the niches that people are making money in on facebook it can help. It also gives quite a bit of ideas for niches and will be good for brainstorming. Yes it's very simple but that doesn't mean it can't be profitable / scalable. Overall it's getting slammed way too hard.
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09-09-2014, 01:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2014 01:47 PM by Quasar.)
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(09-09-2014 11:40 AM)dreamcube Wrote: I don't think this course is that bad really and if you aren't familiar w/ the niches that people are making money in on facebook it can help. It also gives quite a bit of ideas for niches and will be good for brainstorming. Yes it's very simple but that doesn't mean it can't be profitable / scalable. Overall it's getting slammed way too hard. Cool dude! You let us know when you make your first million bucks. Aw hell, just let us know when you make your first $50 with this. And since you cannot read - the opinions expressed here are mostly making the point that this is only very basic information that is available lots of places after doing a tiny bit of research - not that it is unusable or bad material. Most of the first 5 pages of posts were also about the password - not the product. Personally, I believe it is old, well-known, overused stuff, but most haven't slammed it like I have. Professionally, I believe it's crap, and that is an opinion based on knowing what works and what doesn't. But since you think it is such a worthy collection of PDFs, you need to do the right thing and go pay the seller $37. By virtue of your conclusion, it is worth $37 to you, right? Go pay the man. If you are going to draw general conclusions about the comments posted, at least be accurate.
You have to learn the rules of the game. Then you have to play better than anyone else. -Albert Einstein
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09-09-2014, 03:37 PM
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